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Doctor's Baby Dies in Hot Car
myfoxst.1 ^ | 08/23/07 | fox

Posted on 08/23/2007 6:08:28 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3

Each Parent Thought The Other Was Taking Daughter To Child Care

ST. LOUIS, MO (KTVI-myFOXstl.com) --

A 7 month old baby girl died after police say she was left in a locked car for 4 hours in the sweltering summer heat.

(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxstl.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baby; car; carseat; dies; hot; infantdeath
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To: SatinDoll

There are tons of poeple who say “IT COULD NEVER HAPPEN TO ME!!!” for various situations (kidnapping, car accidents, etc). Guess what happened next?

Sometimes, “it” happens. And no matter how careful one thinks they are, no matter how much double, triple, and quadruple checking is done, there is always a chance that a really big “OOPS!” could occur.

All you can do is pray and say “There but for the Grace of the Lord.”


161 posted on 08/24/2007 12:23:36 AM PDT by Killborn (BASH BUSH!! All the COOL kids are doing it!!!! Perfect for people with no logic or reason!)
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To: cajungirl
been there,done something similar...except mine was when I had my baby in a little car seat in the grocery basket....I pushed the basket thru next to the teller, and she put the bag of groceries on the counter and off I went...til I got to the door and my husband in the car was giving me that questioning and panic look....

and I am the type of person who could never shut our bedroom door...to this day...because I wanted to be able to hear the kids....

162 posted on 08/24/2007 12:31:30 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Islander2

No, for you to castigate those who think that the holier than thou attitude is out of place is absurd. It’s abominable that conservatives fall into this trap that no parent can make a mistake without being crucified.

For goodness sake, we are conservatives, we believe in parents abilities, and we recognize human fraility, and that every conceivable action does not require a law or reaction to rectify or prevent it. Less government, right?

As conservatives we should be praying for this family, how horrific, instead we are coming on here and anonymously posting how horrible these parents are.

As conservatives we should be taking back America for the good of our nation by promoting, encouraging, welcoming stay at home moms (or parent). Making it so attractive that no one would refuse it.

Instead, we come on here and say things like “how could any mother forget her child.” I do not feel more righteous, I am disappointed in our reaction.


163 posted on 08/24/2007 12:39:56 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit ((Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding))
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To: KoRn
That's irrelevant if you don't know the baby is in the car

Actually it's very relevant because somebody put the baby in the car! Then either/both got in and/or out of the car without noticing the child.

I'm guessing the mother put the baby in the car while it was parked and the father was still getting ready to leave for work, thinking he was going to drop the baby off at day care.

Would you put your baby in your wife's car and then drive off, leaving the baby in a car in the driveway or garage???

It's not that I don't have any sympathy for the people, but as a parent, my world revolved around my kids, they weren't just one more thing to juggle into my schedule.
164 posted on 08/24/2007 3:26:52 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Huck
I often think God made me screw up so much just to make me a more empathetic person :-P About my theory, yeah, I believe that. I think it's the same reason why lefties are utopian dreamers. They just can't accept life as it is. They can't accept death. So they blame conspiracies, and tell themselves there's an earthly solution, if only...

With the judgers, it's the same thing. At least if someone is at fault, they don't have to face the reality that you can be a good person, minding your own business, and blammo, without warning, something can happen(a drunk driver? a bolt of lightening? cancer?) and turn your whole life to ruin. Who wants to deal with that? So they say "that guy was an idiot, he had it coming" and move on.

Humans are strange. We all need help.

What you said in this post is so true. It's a human's attempt to control, if I can blame someone else's tragedy on them or something they did, then I don't have to worry about it happening to me, and I "feel better" about life.

Once life beats you up a bit and you realize that control is an illusion, it's much easier to have compassion for those who experience tragedy in their lives.

Thanks for the post, you were "right on."

165 posted on 08/24/2007 3:45:40 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: khnyny
The way the story is outlined, it doesn't make sense. It sounds like these people were more concerned with their careers as opposed to their child.

I posted the link & excerpt in the interest of providing a bit more info about how the incident happened.

The dad is a researcher--I'm supposing he works fixed hours, like 9-5. The mom is a pediatrician at the facility and I'm supposing her hours are erratic & that she is 'on call'. So, it's highly possible that she had been called in to work because one of her patients was in distress. That scenario explains why she might have called her husband to meet her, park her car and why she would have thought that he would check the baby into the campus daycare.

166 posted on 08/24/2007 3:48:13 AM PDT by elli1
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To: caseinpoint

“Maybe it’s time to start putting babies back in the front seat.”

I think that’s a good idea. At least it could be done in the summer months.


167 posted on 08/24/2007 3:52:34 AM PDT by Mila
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To: ican'tbelieveit; Islander2

To clear up the confusion—the quote is from the article that I posted a link to in post #64.


168 posted on 08/24/2007 4:02:38 AM PDT by elli1
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To: Finny

A side note regarding the nanny state. When airbags were introduced, the specs in the US were for stopping an UNbelted adult travelling at a high rate of speed. So the impact on a small person, or in a slow-moving fender bender was catastrophic. In Canada, where compliance to wearing seat belts was much higher, the velocity of the airbag detonator was only half the strength of the ones required in US made cars..


169 posted on 08/24/2007 4:10:47 AM PDT by maica (America will be a hyperpower that's all hype and no power -- if we do not prevail in Iraq)
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To: dawn53

“Seems to me there was a Biblical couple who lost track of “their” child and couldn’t find Him for 3 days and I don’t think they were “bad parents” because of it.”

Dawn, what a perfectly timed and appropriate reference! Something to remember when we are ready to accuse others of all kinds of terrible things! My heart is breaking for these poor parents who are no doubt torturing themselves with “if only”s.


170 posted on 08/24/2007 4:14:38 AM PDT by Mila
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To: californianmom
My children are always foremost in my mind

me too.....and in the car they are usually loud enough they are hard to ignore

171 posted on 08/24/2007 8:15:24 AM PDT by wardaddy (hillbilly car wash owner outta control)
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To: cajungirl
I "almost" did this once. I usually took my daughter to her day care, so I couldn't even use the excuse of taking her was not part of the normal routine. Thinking back, I remember there was something going on at work, and I drove right past the exit I would normally take to her daycare. It wasn't until I was just about in the parking lot for my work that I remembered she was sleeping in the back seat. Made me sick to my stomach.

A few years back (same place of employment), a smiliar situation to the one in the story happened to two of my coworkers. They were married (to each other)--and it was usually mom who took the baby to the day care. But, she had to be in earlier than normal for a meeting, so it was up to dad this day to take the baby to the sitter...something he did not normally do. When mom got off work she walked over to the daycare (close to our work), to pick up the baby. She was told the baby wasn't there, hadn't been dropped off. SO, she called her husband on the cell phone and asks where the baby was...

Reports from other coworkers is that he ran like a bat out of hell to the parking lot, mom ran from the daycare--the baby was still in the car.

FOrtunately, even though it was September, we had had an abnormally cool/overcast day. The baby, though dehydrated, was fine. The cops wouldn't let mom or dad in the back of the ambulance as the baby was taken to the hospital, but both parents were in hysterics.

My dad once left my sister and me at a gas station in Salinas, CA..he thought all kids were accounted for and in the car. He drove a good 20 miles before he realized something was amiss.

172 posted on 08/24/2007 8:33:58 AM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: Obadiah
No mom who has bonded to her baby EVER forgets about that baby. EVER. It's nature's way.

Career moms in my observation often don't really bond with their babies. I suspect they have a lower level of maternal hormones circulating in their systems -- whether because of career distractions, divided loyalties, or simply separation (infant placed in daycare).

We had an assistant county prosecutor here in NJ leave her infant unattended in a car for hours recently. Same excuse -- she "forgot" to take the baby to daycare. Fortunately the day was on the cool side, and the baby lived.

173 posted on 08/24/2007 8:47:23 AM PDT by shhrubbery! (Max Boot: Joe Wilson has sold more whoppers than Burger King)
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To: Mygirlsmom

Oh, I wasn’t excusing it. I guess I could see how someone might forget for a few minutes, but “hello.” Sometimes I wonder if these people have ADHD. I realized I had it when we started going to a support group after my son was diagnosed. I get distracted a lot but NEVER have I been that distracted.

When my son was small (age 4-6) he’d run around the with the kids across the street and down a few doors. I was on my front porch the whole time; didn’t get much done, but I got to read my Bible and a lot of poetry, which I now have a passion for. I wonder how many moms would give up that much time.

My baby is 30 now. I still worry about him (and now my daughter-in-law). My mom said, “It never ends.”


174 posted on 08/24/2007 8:51:15 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Huck; pax_et_bonum
Pax, I think Huck is on to something. Although again, I stress that passing judgement on people is a good thing when you're passing the judgement in order to protect your own -- for example, being given a business proposition by a woman who has three different kids by three different fathers, one of them cruelly abusive, and where virtually everyone close to her suffers emotional pain becaue of her stupid decisions -- it's okay to acknowledge that and judge. Really. We all do it and we all MUST do it in order to thrive. We judge and say, "Nope, I don't want to get into a business relationship with that person because she's a proven chronic screw-up." That kind of thing -- whether or not to date a person, whether or not to trust a person, whether or not to take a person's advice. We all judge. It's a truth of life. The thing is, most of the time we keep it to ourselves (unlike so many on this thread). I think that what God is getting at is that we when we judge, we should hold ourselves to those same standards. By that guide, then, these people on this thread must have standards that mean they would never give themselves a break for an accident due to busy lives, and that's both stupid and sad on their part.

The high-and-mighty people who are so arrogantly critize these parents are doing, I think, just what Huck says. This was an accident, and life DOES have sharp teeth. Here's the deal: LIFE ISN'T FAIR. It never has been, it never will be, and no one, not God nor Jesus, ever said it WOULD be.

The bottom line: parents need to recognize and adapt Chuck Yeager's philosophy: The rules are made for people who aren't willing to make up their own. Parents who tell the Nanny State to go screw itself, parents who make up their OWN rules for keeping their children safe and who cart them around in the front seat, are the smartest ones. They are looking to their own houses -- and that's EXACTLY what all these self-righteous twits on this board who critizes these people should be doing. But they don't because it doesn't give them the illusion of being superior or safe.

175 posted on 08/24/2007 8:51:50 AM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: skateman

Excellent post!!! I salute you!


176 posted on 08/24/2007 8:53:04 AM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: TornadoAlley3

Poor baby. Poor parents. What a sad story.


177 posted on 08/24/2007 8:56:58 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: CGTRWK
No. You are philosophically wrong on ALL counts, and philosophies such as yours CREATE these problems, they don't solve them. Cripes, the front-seat airbags that started this whole mess came about because they were mandated by folks with mindsets much like yours -- the nanny state, of legislators and others forcing their ideas of "safety" on everyone else. Your statistics with regard to numbers of kids "saved" by not being smashed by front-seat airbags versus the ones who broil forgotten in the backseat may be mathematically correct, but statistics are among freedom's biggest enemies when they presume to force specific behaviors that are none of your, my, nor the States's business. This is a matter of FREEDOM and making your own decisions. Parents should decide for themselves how they want to provide "safety" for thier kids, not you, not me, not a bunch of lawmakers. Parents.
178 posted on 08/24/2007 9:02:54 AM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: Chena

I’m honored, Chena. Thank you.


179 posted on 08/24/2007 9:03:55 AM PDT by Finny (Only Saps Buy Global Warming)
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To: TornadoAlley3
A young child died here in the greater Cincinnati area yesterday under similar circumstances. The mother, an ass’t principal at a middle school, drove to work parked her car and forgot her child was in the back seat. Several hours went by before someone noticed the child in the car seat and alerted authorities. When EMS arrived the child was dead; yesterday temperatures in the area were in the high 90’s ... with heat indices exceeding 105F.
The mother had to be sedated and was taken to a hospital. A real tragedy for all concerned.
180 posted on 08/24/2007 9:07:42 AM PDT by BluH2o
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