Liberal Evangelicals, Israel, and Bad Hair-- The "new" Religious Left.

Weekley Standard ^ | 08/23/2007 | Mark Tooley

[familyop]

"It seems to me as a Jew that every non-heretical Christian believes Christianity is the ‘true Israel’. No doubt that’s why almost every thread mentioning Jews or Israel gets hijacked into urging Jews to convert."

I've seen the same quite a few times. Along with studying the Roman history of the religion, the recent anti-Israel and anti-Jewish sentiments help many of us to decide to leave it behind us and learn more about Judaism (that is, to learn more about Judaism as it pertains to non-Jewish people like myself). We each take the initiative to ask questions, BTW. No one else tries to change our beliefs.

[VOA]

“There wasn’t anything to even support much of a population when the
Jews got back to it. The promise land was left as an unwanted waste land.”

IIRC, after a tour of The Holy Land, Mark Twain generally asked “where are
the people?”...it was a desolate, under-populated no-wheres-ville.

[T.L.Sink]

It strikes me that when one penetrates all the verbiage and spin of this evangelical faction one is only left with the old moral equivalence argument. Also, they’re setting up a straw man and projecting a stereotypical image of the evangelical as an uncultered boob. Nothing could be further from the truth. For example, whatever one thinks of the theology of Pat Robertson, he’s a graduate of Yale Law School and a very well informed social commentator.
But, theology aside, most evangelicals understand that Israel is an ally, a democracy, and an inherent part of Judeo-Christian Western civilization.

[parousia]

Bravo for placing these socialist ‘Christians’in the appropriate context -the Book of Revelations which prophesizes the ‘falling away’ of the false church(s). This exposure of the leftist ‘evangelicals’(aka liberation theologians) Ron Sider and his counterpart Compolo and the liberalized Fuller Seminary professors, et al whose sole intent is to smear true Christians who take the Bible as the Word of God and attempt to live in the Spirit by which it was created. I’m glad to learn of David Chilton’s book which turns the light on those who serve up Christianity under the socialist-marxist cloak, pushing that version of the meaning of Jesus’life and teachings, “proving that Sider understands neither the Bible nor economics when it comes to his conclusions about profits, taxes, foreign aid, and Western guilt for the Third World poverty.” (from book review)

[blue-duncan]

” he wrote a book about ordering your private world”

That’s the book he wrote while fooling around with another man’s wife. in chapter 7 or 8 he talks about how his wife has implicit trust in him all the while he is committing adultery. What a guy! And then the church takes him back, what a church!

[justiceseeker93]

But they assert that both Israel and the Palestinians have legitimate rights stretching back for millenia to the lands of Israel/Palestine.

These letter writers must be historical revisionists. The current "Palestinians" (Arabs) didn't even exist until Yasser Arafat - an Egyptian, BTW - created a "nationality" from scratch in the 1960s to abet his perverse dream of driving Israel out of existence.

[hlmencken3]

I, of course, have no interest in the Christian Bible.

Judgment is made on the basis of the behavior of self-professed believers.

[AndyTheBear]

Certainly some Christians do not understand the consequences of the church as 'true Israel'. [earlier post]

I, of course, have no interest in the Christian Bible.

Judgment is made on the basis of the behavior of self-professed believers.

I thought we were talking about the proper understanding of a Christian doctrine, and whether Christians were correctly understanding it.

[xJones]

And really beware of David Chilton, a well known replacement theologian who says that the Church has permanently replaced Israel as the instrument through which God works and that national Israel does not have a future in the plan of God. IOW, the ancient Israelites blew it, and the Covenant of Abraham now applies to the Church. This heresy, if followed to it's miserable end, means that those pesky Israelis are God's rejects and who cares about them?

It's a damnable heresy which ignores everything contrary to their prize belief of the Church being God's new chosen, and not a grafted in branch as the Bible clearly states.