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Who Is Allah ? (Do Christians and Muslims worship the same God ?)
The American Thinker ^ | 08/23/2007 | Soeren Kern

Posted on 08/23/2007 9:58:47 AM PDT by SirLinksalot

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To: null and void

Never thought of that connection! Thanks, I will remember it.


101 posted on 08/23/2007 1:53:56 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: BigFinn
I think you are absolutely correct. I think the Antichrist will be a Muslim, and probably the "Mahdi" that the Muslims have been looking for all these years is the guy.

All you have to do to see if Muslims worship the same God as Christians is to ask them who Jesus is. Jesus said:

11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

Jesus said that He and the Father are "one". That means Jesus is God, not the "prophet" of "Allah". If a Muslim denies the deity of Jesus, then he does not worship the Christian God.

It's as simple as that.

102 posted on 08/23/2007 1:54:57 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: SirLinksalot

cultural jihad bump


103 posted on 08/23/2007 1:56:56 PM PDT by Dajjal
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To: TalBlack
Many people have no fear whatsoever of God and suffer in no apparent way for their lives.

I think that is a different issue than whether "fear of God" is a componant of faith in Judaism and Christianity. -You are raising the old question of how the "wicked can prosper while the righteous suffer". I believe that this question is raised by adherents of all three faiths.

104 posted on 08/23/2007 2:19:27 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: evets

Yep.


105 posted on 08/23/2007 2:28:01 PM PDT by fishtank ("Amnesty" and "amnesia" are from the same root word !!!)
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To: TalBlack

thx


106 posted on 08/23/2007 2:32:08 PM PDT by pacelvi (In general, Democrats are the only real reason to vote for Republicans. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: TalBlack

thx


107 posted on 08/23/2007 2:32:29 PM PDT by pacelvi (In general, Democrats are the only real reason to vote for Republicans. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta
1 John 2:22 Who is the liar but the person who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This one is the antichrist: the person who denies the Father and the Son.

Qur'an 5:73 "They are surely disbelievers who blaspheme and say: ‘God is one of three in the Trinity for there is no Ilah (God) except One, Allah. If they desist not from saying this (blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall them - the disbelievers will suffer a painful doom."

108 posted on 08/23/2007 2:35:12 PM PDT by pacelvi (In general, Democrats are the only real reason to vote for Republicans. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: SirLinksalot
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109 posted on 08/23/2007 3:20:03 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck....... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.,)
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To: pacelvi

Thank you for the link and the pasted section. I appreciate it.


110 posted on 08/23/2007 4:36:57 PM PDT by UlmoLordOfWaters
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To: GiovannaNicoletta


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http://answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/index.htm

Bible: The Antichrist is an unparalleled political, military and religious leader that will that emerge in the last-days.
Islam: The Mahdi is an unparalleled political, military and religious leader that will emerge in the last-days.

Bible: the False Prophet is a secondary prominent figure that will emerge in the last-days who will support the Antichrist.
Islam: the Muslim Jesus is a secondary prominent figure that will emerge in the last-days to support the Mahdi.

Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet together will have a powerful army that will do great damage to the earth in an effort to subdue every nation and dominate the World.
Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will have a powerful army that will attempt to control every nation of the earth and dominate the World.

Bible: The False Prophet is described essentially as a dragon in lamb’s clothing.
Islam: The Muslim Jesus literally comes bearing the name of the one that the world knows as “The Lamb of God: Jesus Christ.” Yet the Muslim Jesus comes to murder all those who do not submit to Islam.

Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet establish a New World Order.
Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus establish a New World Order.

Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet institute new laws for the whole earth.
Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus institute Islamic law all over the earth.

Bible: The Antichrist is said to “change the times.”
Islam: It is quite certain that if the Mahdi established Islam all over the earth, he would discontinue the use of Saturday and Sunday as the weekend or days of rest but rather Friday, the holy day of Islam. Also, he would most certainly eliminate the Gregorian calendar (A.D.), and replace it with the Islamic calendar (A. H.) as is used in every Islamic country.

Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will both be powerful religious leaders who will attempt to institute a universal world religion.
Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will institute Islam as the only religion in the earth.

Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will execute anyone who does not submit to their world religion.
Islam: Likewise, the Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will execute anyone who does not submit to Islam.

Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will specifically use beheading as the primary means of execution for non-conformists.
Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will use the Islamic practice of beheading for executions.

Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will have a specific agenda to kill as many Jews as possible.
Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will kill as many Jews as is possible until only a few are left hiding behind rocks and trees.

Bible: The Antichrist and the False Prophet will attack to conquer and seize Jerusalem.
Islam: The Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus will attack to re-conquer and seize Jerusalem for Islam.

Bible: The Antichrist will set himself up in the Jewish temple as his seat of authority.
Islam: The Mahdi will establish the Islamic Caliphate from Jerusalem.

Bible: The False Prophet is said to do many miracles to deceive as many as possible into supporting the Antichrist.
Islam: The Mahdi himself is said to control the weather and the crops. His face is said to glow. We can also assume that since Jesus is viewed as having been empowered by Allah to work miracles when he was here on earth the first time, he will most likely be expected to continue to do so when he returns.

Bible: The Antichrist is described as riding on a white horse in the Book of Revelation
Islam: The Mahdi is described as riding on a white horse (ironically from the same verse).

Bible: The Antichrist is said to make a peace treaty with Israel for seven years.
Islam: The Mahdi is said to make a peace treaty through a Jew (specifically a Levite) for exactly seven years.

Bible: Jesus the Jewish Messiah will return to defend the Jews in Israel from a military attack from a vast coalition of nations led by the Antichrist and the False Prophet.
Islam: The Dajjal, the Islamic Antichrist will gain a great Jewish following and claim to be Jesus Christ and fight against the Mahdi and the Muslim Jesus.

Bible: The antichrist spirit specifically denies the most unique and central doctrines of Christianity, namely the trinity, the incarnation and the substitutionary death of Jesus on the cross.
Islam: Islam doctrinally and spiritually specifically denies the most unique and central doctrines of Christianity, namely the trinity, the incarnation and the substitutionary death of Jesus on the cross.

Bible: The primary warning of Jesus and the Apostle Paul was to warn Christians of the abundance of deceit and deception in the last-days.
Islam: Islam is perhaps the only religion in the earth that practices deceit as one of its tools to assist its own ascendancy. It actually has a specific doctrine which allows and even calls for deception to be used to achieve its desired end.

Bible: The specific nations pictured in the Bible as being part of the final empire of the Antichrist are all Islamic nations.
Islam: All Muslims are commanded to give their allegiance to The Mahdi as the final Caliph and Imam (leader) of Islam.

Bible: From the Bible and History we learn that the final Antichrist empire will be a revived version of the Empire that succeeds the Roman Empire
Islam: The Empire that succeeded the Roman/Byzantine Empire was the Islamic Ottoman Empire

Bible: When Antichrist emerges, there will already be some form of system in place that will be poised to receive him as a Savior and to give allegiance to him.
Islam: is already the second largest religion and will at present growth rates become the largest religion within a few decades. Islam is awaiting the coming of the Mahdi with a universal anticipation.

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111 posted on 08/23/2007 6:05:12 PM PDT by pacelvi (In general, Democrats are the only real reason to vote for Republicans. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: null and void
"I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven" (Luke 10:18)

The stone the mohammad-damned worship is a meteor...

Now that is certainly an interesting possibility. Look at how much attention and worship that little copper rock gets ---

112 posted on 08/23/2007 7:44:48 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: SirLinksalot
It is the god of the moon, which is worshiped by women hating, child endangering dealt worshipers.
113 posted on 08/23/2007 7:47:21 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SirLinksalot
It is the god of the moon, which is worshiped by women hating, child endangering death worshipers.
114 posted on 08/23/2007 7:47:44 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: pacelvi

Very enlightening article === Thanks


115 posted on 08/23/2007 7:56:49 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: pacelvi
That is amazing.

I first began to entertain the thought that the Antichrist would be Muslim a few years ago when I saw Whalid Shoebat on Zola Levitt's show and he was giving a rundown of some similarites between Bible prophecy regarding the Antichrist and Islamic practices.

No, I don't think there is any doubt at all.

116 posted on 08/24/2007 1:22:15 AM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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To: nmh; pacelvi
Allah is another name for God, HOWEVER their “god” they call “allah” is not the same Judeo Christian God. As another poster stated, I don’t worship their “allah” who is another manifestation of satan.

See post #12:

"Allah" is the name of the Islamic god ---- it was never the Arabic word for “God.” The Muslims have a perfectly good word for “god” and they use it with great regularity. They say, “There is no ilah [god] but Allah [the name of their god], and Muhammad is His Messenger.”

Many Arab Christians have been conned and intimidated by their Muslim masters into translating the word "Lord" in their Bibles into the word "Allah". Surely they know better, for the Hebrew word "YHWH" is translated by the apostles into the Greek word "Kurios" in the New Testament and hence the word "Lord" in English.

117 posted on 08/24/2007 5:19:50 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Question is, who will be our Frodo?


118 posted on 08/24/2007 5:30:57 AM PDT by P.O.E. (School's Out. Drive Safely)
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To: Uncle Chip

“Many Arab Christians have been conned and intimidated by their Muslim masters into translating the word “Lord” in their Bibles into the word “Allah”. Surely they know better, for the Hebrew word “YHWH” is translated by the apostles into the Greek word “Kurios” in the New Testament and hence the word “Lord” in English.”

I see.

I will make a MENTAL note to NEVER call my God, “allah”.


119 posted on 08/24/2007 6:58:38 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God) .)
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To: TexasCajun
Just another fatwa waiting to happen.,

SOmeone should print up toilet paper inscribed with all the anti-christian and anti-human fatwas from the past 20 years...

120 posted on 08/24/2007 7:25:13 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Allah is not Yahweh.)
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