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FReep This Poll! Do you want fluoride added to your drinking water supply?
North County Times/The Californian ^ | August 22, 2007 | North County Times/The Californian

Posted on 08/22/2007 7:08:24 AM PDT by DogByte6RER

FReep This Poll!

Do you want fluoride added to your drinking water supply?

Yes

No

Not sure

Go to the North County Times/The Californian link provided. Scroll down a bit and look for the poll on the right hand side.

Vote your choice.

(Excerpt) Read more at nctimes.com ...


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: carcinogen; conspiracy; drinkingwater; fluoridation; fluoride; h2o; icecreammandrake; preciousbodilyfluids; sapandimpurify; socialism
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To: mnehrling

I don’t know which one they put in the water, but toothpaste contains sodium flouride.

We have whole house reverse osmosis, so I don’t particularly care what they put in the water.


41 posted on 08/22/2007 7:39:38 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: zencat

“If you want fluoride then use a fluoride rinse and toothpaste. I don’t want it in my water every time I take a drink and I don’t want to ingest it.”

using filtered or bottled water is not adequate. Since many products are created using tap water you still end up getting an overdose of fluoride. Products like soda, juice, soup, cereal, fish, and canned meats all have fluoride in them. In some cases they have been shown to exceed the EPA limits.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/f-concentrations.data.htm#tp

Also this quote is interesting: “Virtually all authors have noted that some children could ingest more fluoride from dentrifice (toothpaste) alone than is recommended as a total daily fluoride ingestion.”
SOURCE: Levy SM, Guha-Chowdhury N. (1999). Total fluoride intake and implications for dietary fluoride supplementation. Journal of Public Health Dentistry 59: 211-23.”


42 posted on 08/22/2007 7:40:43 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: mnehrling

Sodium Monoflourophosphate is not a problem. THe benefits far outweigh any potential risks

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/fluoridated-water

The possible relationship between fluoridated water and cancer has been debated at length. The debate resurfaced in 1990 when a study by the National Toxicology Program, part of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, showed an increased number of osteosarcomas (bone tumors) in male rats given water high in fluoride for 2 years (3). However, other studies in humans and in animals have not shown an association between fluoridated water and cancer (4).

In a February 1991 Public Health Service (PHS) report, the agency said it found no evidence of an association between fluoride and cancer in humans. The report, based on a review of more than 50 human epidemiological (population) studies produced over the past 40 years, concluded that optimal fluoridation of drinking water “does not pose a detectable cancer risk to humans” as evidenced by extensive human epidemiological data reported to date (4).

In one of the studies reviewed for the PHS report, scientists at the National Cancer Institute evaluated the relationship between the fluoridation of drinking water and the number of deaths due to cancer in the United States during a 36-year period, and the relationship between water fluoridation and number of new cases of cancer during a 15-year period. After examining more than 2.2 million cancer death records and 125,000 cancer case records in counties using fluoridated water, the researchers found no indication of increased cancer risk associated with fluoridated drinking water (5).

In 1993, the Subcommittee on Health Effects of Ingested Fluoride of the National Research Council, part of the National Academy of Sciences, conducted an extensive literature review concerning the association between fluoridated drinking water and increased cancer risk. The review included data from more than 50 human epidemiological studies and six animal studies. The Subcommittee concluded that none of the data demonstrated an association between fluoridated drinking water and cancer (5). A 1999 report by the CDC supported these findings. The report concluded that studies to date have produced “no credible evidence” of an association between fluoridated drinking water and an increased risk for cancer (2).


43 posted on 08/22/2007 7:43:18 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather.)
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To: DogByte6RER
Can we buy fluoride? You know, to put over ice cream and eggs?
44 posted on 08/22/2007 7:43:23 AM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Never drink tap water and flouride is only one of the reasons.


45 posted on 08/22/2007 7:44:11 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: DogByte6RER

I clicked on “YES” and it didn’t change the number at all. Still only 51 for yes.


46 posted on 08/22/2007 7:45:04 AM PDT by Jaysun (It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
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To: NavyCanDo

Your Father In Law is absolutely right, but that won’t end the conspiracy kooks.

I’ve lived in places with floridated and non floridated water, and people, particularly children have abysmal teeth where the water is not floridated.

If your water isn’t floridated, your child will be subjected to floride treatments by a dentist to make up for it annually or semi annually.

Pier reviewed medical journals have proven the safety and efficacy of floridated water for over 50 years now.. in fact the whole reason that water supplies got floridated in the first place was because of the study of why some areas had people with far more healthier teeth that others... Turns out the places that had high floride naturally in their drinking water had healthier teeth, and no, no link to higher rates of cancer were found in these areas.

However the fear mongering that floridated water causes cancer has been going on ever since.


47 posted on 08/22/2007 7:46:22 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: ASA Vet

“Hydrogen hydroxide kills more people than any other chemical. It should be banned or at least regulated. As it is now anyone can possess it.”

H2O? So you are implying that all chemicals are the same?


48 posted on 08/22/2007 7:46:37 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: LadyNavyVet

“We have whole house reverse osmosis, so I don’t particularly care what they put in the water.”

See my post 30. You may have a filter but the food products you buy were made by people without filters.

I really don’t understand the fuss. It doesn’t work so why add it?


49 posted on 08/22/2007 7:48:13 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Ouderkirk; LadyNavyVet; wideminded
Thanks,
It looks like I got my compounds backwards, but the overall point is anti-Flouride activists refer to the study of the toxic fluoride which isn’t the same fluoride that is added to water supplies.
50 posted on 08/22/2007 7:48:15 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is a truly great American- David Duke)
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To: Dixie Yooper
So far I hate all the flavors.

Agreed...try the banana next time; it's at least bearable.

51 posted on 08/22/2007 7:50:04 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
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To: driftdiver
Please provide peer reviewed medical/scientific evidence that its not hurting us. thanks

No decent scientist would publish anything trying to disprove a negative. By the very basics of scientific research it can't be done. So to defend your lack of evidenciery support for your assertion, which is a positive statement and can be proved or disproved, you request something that cannot exist.

52 posted on 08/22/2007 7:53:44 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: mnehrling

Don’t confuse them with the facts.. come on, you’ll end their conspiracy.

Talk to any detist that practices in an area where floride is not added to the water supply, and you’ll know the truth quickly.

When we moved to Cali for a year, and my son, wife and I who have lived our entire lives until then in with floridated water, went to the dentist there, he was fully amazed at the condition of our teeth, compared to most people he saw, and immediately realized we were not born or raised in that area.

When I asked him why they don’t floridate the water there, he said basically fear mongering has kept it from being done. I’d never in my life seen a child with cavities in their baby teeth before moving there... He said basically he makes more money living there fixing issues that should not even be if they would just floridate the water.

And no, having a floride treatment every 6 or 12 months by a dentist is not the same, its better than nothing, but its not the same.

I can’t believe the lies and conspiracy nonsense are still being perpetuated on this topic.

And for the record... cancer rates were far higher per 1000 in the area of Cali I lived than they were where I was from, so was autism. The floridated water causing cancer is a complete myth and hoax, and it needs to die.


54 posted on 08/22/2007 7:54:57 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: CMAC51

“. By the very basics of scientific research it can’t be done. So to defend your lack of evidenciery support for your assertion, which is a positive statement and can be proved or disproved, you request something that cannot exist.”

Accolades for your doublespeak!!!!!


55 posted on 08/22/2007 7:55:02 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: akorahil
When I was in college, the J school had a copy of Dr. Strangelove and ran it almost every weekend. After a dozen screenings, we could repeat the lines in sync with actors...
56 posted on 08/22/2007 7:55:14 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: driftdiver

Sure go ahead. Add anything you want.


57 posted on 08/22/2007 7:58:37 AM PDT by ASA Vet (You're now on my official ignore list.)
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To: Vaquero

Vaquero,
LOL...one of my all time favorite movies.

“Gen. Jack D. Ripper: Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?


Gen. Jack D. Ripper: On no account will a Commie ever drink water, and not without good reason


58 posted on 08/22/2007 8:01:07 AM PDT by rickomatic
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Please don’t add water to my Fluoride!


59 posted on 08/22/2007 8:02:45 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: driftdiver

Everybody cites anecdotal evidence that peoples’ teeth are better now, therefore it must be the fluoride. Modern water supplies contain chlorine, too, as well as other chemicals, so cause and effect could be more complex than we think. Modern American children have consistent access to healthy food and many take vitamin and mineral supplements. That could also have an effect on tooth health.

I drank fluoridated water and had fluoride treatments growing up and had a mouth full of cavities. My children have done neither and have never had a cavity. Anecdotal, but I’m not going to change what’s working. I made the choice after seeing a friend’s child with flouridosis. Ugly and irreversible.

My kids also drink virtually no soda and eat very little junk compared to most kids. They’re homeschooled so I have more control over what goes into their bodies than a lot of parents. I think nutrition has a more to do with their healthy teeth than anything else.


60 posted on 08/22/2007 8:03:17 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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