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Feds' Porn Ultimatum
NY Post ^ | August 19, 2007 | By JANON FISHER

Posted on 08/19/2007 6:21:50 PM PDT by ellery

Ron Jeremy, Jenna Jameson - get ready to stand and be counted.

The Department of Justice wants to come up with an official list of every porn star in America - and slap stiff penalties on producers who don't cooperate.

The new rules, proposed under the Adam Walsh Child Safety and Protection Act, would require blue-movie makers to keep photos, stage names, professional names, maiden names, aliases, nicknames and ages on file for the inspection of the department's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section.

"The identity of every performer is critical to determining and ensuring that no performer is a minor," according to the new proposal.

The adult film industry plans to challenge the new rule as a violation of the First Amendment, said Paul Cambria, a lawyer for Hustler and other adult film companies.

He sees it as a way to harass legitimate stag-film producers.

"If they can't get you for obscenity, they'll get you for violating record-keeping," he said. Such a violation would carry a five-year penalty.

The proposed rule would require porn producers to give the title of the video or magazine, or the Web address where the actor appears.

The Department of Justice has shown some sensitivity for the performers' privacy, however. All information not essential to proving their age and identity, like phone numbers and addresses, can be withheld.

Distributors of foreign pornography aren't off the hook - they must still produce a copy of the foreign actor's identification card. The department estimates that there are 500,000 Web sites, 200 DVD producers and 5,000 businesses nationwide that would be subject to the new rule.

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(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; doj; firstamendment; govwatch; porn; pornography; pr0n; privacy
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To: hodaka

“I was trying to show the hypocrisy that happens when you get these self appointed judges of morality calling the shots. Here are some more examples. Mr Morality, Bill Bennett who liked to play the slots in the wee hours.”


This is really unfair and I’m sick of hearing this.

Bill Bennett NEVER lectured against gambling. So how is his gambling hypocrisy? I’ve heard leftists get away with this for years without being called on it.

So let’s say I make a living giving speeches on the evils of alcohol (fat chance, but let’s just pretend). Then one day, someone witnesses me, oh I don’t know....let’s say betting on horses.

You might think betting on horses is stupid or immoral. That’s your right. But it doesn’t make me a hypocrite. That fact that YOU might conflate several vices into one doesn’t mean we are all required to do so.


121 posted on 08/19/2007 10:03:23 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Well, really just plain Hank Kimball. Well, not "just plain" Hank Kimball, just Hank Kimball....)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball
“Bill Bennett never lectured against gambling.”

Yea, that’s the excuse he gave. He sure had no problem lecturing on everything else that he thought was immoral. If I’m not mistaken he even advocated the death sentence on some vices. I also believe that most states and religions look at gambling as a vice, and immoral.

122 posted on 08/19/2007 10:11:38 PM PDT by hodaka (')
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To: SteveMcKing

ok...I guarantee you it is doing you harm. You just don’t see it right now because you are too busy going along with it. But the darkside will have it’s way with your emotions and anger more so because of it.


123 posted on 08/19/2007 10:16:07 PM PDT by fabian
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To: ran20
Funny thing is porn is becoming one of America’s best industries. I read once it could be a 94 billion dollar business. Way way bigger the Hollywood. So of course the government is going to go after it, and try to drive it offshore.

Bwah! Bollywood is probably well-positioned to move right in.

124 posted on 08/19/2007 10:16:25 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: fabian
ok...I guarantee you it is doing you harm. You just don’t see it right now because you are too busy going along with it.

The same is true of federal government abuse of power.

125 posted on 08/19/2007 10:17:55 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: ellery; martin_fierro
Motorcycle PRon . . .


126 posted on 08/19/2007 10:18:46 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem
It is not my kind of conservative.

That's because it's not conservative...it's big government nannyism...

127 posted on 08/19/2007 10:18:51 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: fabian
'But the darkside will have it’s way with your emotions and anger more so because of it.'

FRUITCAKE.

Bite me, weirdo.

128 posted on 08/19/2007 10:20:51 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: ellery
The same is true of federal government abuse of power.

I think "Yoda" doesn't care if the Empire wins or loses. Just stop touching yourself.

129 posted on 08/19/2007 10:24:26 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

Gene Scott was a visionary.
Bambi is a leech.


130 posted on 08/19/2007 10:24:59 PM PDT by MistrX
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To: hodaka

Bill Bennett never lectured against gambling.

“Yea, that’s the excuse he gave.”

Actually, it is a fact.

“He sure had no problem lecturing on everything else that he thought was immoral.”

Correct. And gambling wasn’t one of those things. So what’s your point?

“If I’m not mistaken he even advocated the death sentence on some vices.”

You are mistaken. I’ll be charitable and just say “mistaken.”

“I also believe that most states and religions look at gambling as a vice, and immoral.”

And this is relevant to Bennett’s alleged hypocrisy how? Even assuming “most states and relgions” look at gambling as you describe....what is the relevance?

Let’s follow your logic here. Even though Bennett never spoke against gambling, the fact that he spoke against OTHER things, and the fact that “most states and religions” might regard gambling as a vice, makes Bennett a hypocrite.

So let’s try something. I’ve spoken against kiddy-porn. I think it’s also fair to say that “most states and religions” regard kiddy-porn as a vice.

Does the fact that I smoke cigars make me a hypocrite?


131 posted on 08/19/2007 10:25:12 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Well, really just plain Hank Kimball. Well, not "just plain" Hank Kimball, just Hank Kimball....)
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To: ellery

I can see the porn operators moving across the border from LA into Mexico. Then recruiting americans and driving them down to Mexico for production. Including minors as different countries have different laws on the age of consent.

All and all the government has bigger things to worry about then setting up a new agency to track each porn star, and which films they’ve been in.


132 posted on 08/19/2007 10:25:49 PM PDT by ran20
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To: SteveMcKing

:) Great, now I’m going to have that DiVinyls song stuck in my head.


133 posted on 08/19/2007 10:29:59 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: ellery

Alright, sorry I called you “fruitcake”. I still think you are weird however.


134 posted on 08/19/2007 10:34:01 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: ran20
All and all the government has bigger things to worry about then setting up a new agency to track each porn star, and which films they’ve been in.

Very true...especially because they would then have to set up another new agency to handle the flood of applications for the new "Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice" porn-tracking jobs.

Or are we to believe that the people the government would find to staff these porn-tracking positions would be somehow impervious to porn...the same porn that is supposedly so irresistable to mere non-governmental mortals that we need the government to regulate it?

135 posted on 08/19/2007 10:38:39 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: MistrX

See post #119


136 posted on 08/19/2007 10:40:56 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: BCrago66
The story as written puzzles me. The Dept. of Justice can promulgate any rule it wants, but if there is to be a penalty for non-compliance, we need a law enacted by Congress. The article does mention to Adam Walsh Act, but does not say that the Act itself mandated the proposed rule or any correlative penalty. Federal criminal law & penalties can’t be delegated to an administrative agency. The article seems to proceed on a kind of child-like assumption that the government consists of big important people who are in charge and can simply demand anything.

Great point. You would think Congress would more jealously guard its prerogatives in the way the Founders intended. Instead, they're too busy colluding with the other government branches.

137 posted on 08/19/2007 10:42:01 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: SteveMcKing; fabian

I think you called fabian “fruitcake,” not me...?


138 posted on 08/19/2007 10:42:55 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: FearlessFreep

The set that was too large for her crazy brain to accept as normal. One of those useless things I found out while watching a half hour of the former Howard Stern TV show.


139 posted on 08/19/2007 10:55:45 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (There once was a dream called, "Hippy Beat Down." The mere whisper of if caused cops to weep.)
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To: ellery
Ah, I see. Then my insult still stands.

Perhaps you are weird too, however... Better safe than sorry...

140 posted on 08/19/2007 10:56:24 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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