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Feds' Porn Ultimatum
NY Post ^ | August 19, 2007 | By JANON FISHER

Posted on 08/19/2007 6:21:50 PM PDT by ellery

Ron Jeremy, Jenna Jameson - get ready to stand and be counted.

The Department of Justice wants to come up with an official list of every porn star in America - and slap stiff penalties on producers who don't cooperate.

The new rules, proposed under the Adam Walsh Child Safety and Protection Act, would require blue-movie makers to keep photos, stage names, professional names, maiden names, aliases, nicknames and ages on file for the inspection of the department's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section.

"The identity of every performer is critical to determining and ensuring that no performer is a minor," according to the new proposal.

The adult film industry plans to challenge the new rule as a violation of the First Amendment, said Paul Cambria, a lawyer for Hustler and other adult film companies.

He sees it as a way to harass legitimate stag-film producers.

"If they can't get you for obscenity, they'll get you for violating record-keeping," he said. Such a violation would carry a five-year penalty.

The proposed rule would require porn producers to give the title of the video or magazine, or the Web address where the actor appears.

The Department of Justice has shown some sensitivity for the performers' privacy, however. All information not essential to proving their age and identity, like phone numbers and addresses, can be withheld.

Distributors of foreign pornography aren't off the hook - they must still produce a copy of the foreign actor's identification card. The department estimates that there are 500,000 Web sites, 200 DVD producers and 5,000 businesses nationwide that would be subject to the new rule.

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(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; doj; firstamendment; govwatch; porn; pornography; pr0n; privacy
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To: fabian
And that is pleasing to the dark forces which love men to be weak and groveling for women’s attention.

You mean heterosexuality?

101 posted on 08/19/2007 9:29:19 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: ellery
Innocent until proven guilty
Guilty until proven innocent
102 posted on 08/19/2007 9:31:58 PM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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To: Popocatapetl

Great points, Popocat. Especially the part about pandering.

It occurred to me as I was reading the responses that only maybe 3 of 90+ responses were actually supporting this nonsense. This tells me that many of our so-called leaders aren’t really conservatives, but people with no real convictions doing what they think “those people” out there - us bumpkin conservatives - want them to do.

Like Laura Ingraham said in another context: They think we’re stupid. They think we’re sitting around wringing our hands about dirty DVD’s, when we really want them to:

- Fix the borders;
- Protect us from our enemies; and
- Domestically, for the most part..........

LEAVE US THE HELL ALONE!

I don’t know who really gets it. Bush gets 1 out of three of those. I’m starting to think maybe I’ll just case my lot with Newt, who probably can’t win, but who can at least give a forceful expression of the libertarian/conservative/nationalist point of view.


103 posted on 08/19/2007 9:34:29 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Well, really just plain Hank Kimball. Well, not "just plain" Hank Kimball, just Hank Kimball....)
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To: Marie2
"I want moral laws enforced, including prostitution/porn, and drug laws, too."

They will be - selectively, sporadically, ineffectually.

Counter-productively... You are asking the impossible, to legislate the morality of common vices.

104 posted on 08/19/2007 9:37:35 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: goldstategop
Obscenity is NOT free speech! If porn producers don't like the record-keeping rules, then they're free to pursue another line of business. There's no right in the Constitution to produce obscene material.

What does this have to do with porn? It isn't obscene. At least not according to the Supreme Court. Sometimes I think a lot of Freepers are pretty much with Muslims on how much a woman should be covered up.
105 posted on 08/19/2007 9:37:58 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: KoRn
I’m so glad the DOJ doesn’t have anything better to be concerned with...

Porn is one of Big Gay Al Gonzales' top 2 priorities. The other of course is the importation of the entire Mexican populous.

106 posted on 08/19/2007 9:41:04 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Mr. Blonde
Burqa porn? I think Imams would approve, provided it was shot in the dark.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

107 posted on 08/19/2007 9:43:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: ellery

The story as written puzzles me. The Dept. of Justice can promulgate any rule it wants, but if there is to be a penalty for non-compliance, we need a law enacted by Congress. The article does mention to Adam Walsh Act, but does not say that the Act itself mandated the proposed rule or any correlative penalty. Federal criminal law & penalties can’t be delegated to an administrative agency.

The article seems to proceed on a kind of child-like assumption that the government consists of big important people who are in charge and can simply demand anything.


108 posted on 08/19/2007 9:44:05 PM PDT by BCrago66
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To: SteveMcKing

I don’t think it’s impossible to legislate the morality of common vices.

Stealing is a vice. From the penny ante shoplifters to the violent bank jobs, it’s a vice. If we legislate against it, most criminals will still do it. BUT. . .

we can arrest them, prosecute them, and punish them. THEN. . .

there will be less stealing.


109 posted on 08/19/2007 9:45:30 PM PDT by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

I’m not sure I agree with your numbers, ‘...3 of 90+ responses were actually supporting this nonsense’.

There are some on this thread that don’t agree with the solution being proposed because we know this solution is a backdoor to the total tracking of everything with DNA on the planet.

Because of the motives involved with their goal, aka ‘The Final Solution of 2010’, doesn’t mean we support the Human Trafficking/Child Exploitation Movement.

We want that stopped. But not by the end means of chipping, IDing and tracking everything in a database.

Just clarifying, this isn’t as cut and dry as the push poll type answer in your post.


110 posted on 08/19/2007 9:45:47 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: SteveMcKing

yes, but the demon of porn is not limited to heterosexuality...and not all of heterosexuality is healthy. Porn takes sex into an unhealthy place for mind and soul. Have you noticed that?


111 posted on 08/19/2007 9:48:11 PM PDT by fabian
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To: Calpernia

Well, of course I was talking about the fed database. That was the point of the post.

Did you actually think I was suggesting all but 3 were pro-human-trafficking?

For the record, I too oppose human trafficking.

I’m also firmly opposed to wife-beating, arson, and the Ebola virus.

Geeze.


112 posted on 08/19/2007 9:50:54 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Well, really just plain Hank Kimball. Well, not "just plain" Hank Kimball, just Hank Kimball....)
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To: County Agent Hank Kimball

Glad we are on the same page in reference to that Ebola.


113 posted on 08/19/2007 9:52:18 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Marie2
“We’re conservatives, not libertarians. I want moral laws enforced, including prostitution/porn and drug laws too.”

I was trying to show the hypocrisy that happens when you get these self appointed judges of morality calling the shots. Here are some more examples. Mr Morality, Bill Bennett who liked to play the slots in the wee hours. Mr epitome of virtue and morality Rush Limbaugh taking a trip to the hot spot of prostitution with a bottle of Viagra. My all time favorite will be Jimmy Swaggert who on the regular basis judged who was going to Hell, gets caught with the nastiest of whores.

114 posted on 08/19/2007 9:52:46 PM PDT by hodaka (')
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To: JohnLongIsland
i guess teddy r's famous expression "speak softly and carry a big stick" still holds some merit.

But Ted's problem has always been that he talks big but the rest of hims is....soft.

I uhh... swear that uhh... there's a big stick down there uhh... somewhere!

115 posted on 08/19/2007 9:53:27 PM PDT by uglybiker (relaxing in a luxuriant cloud of quality, aromatic, pre-owned tobacco essence)
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To: Oztrich Boy

LOL

That’s too much woman for one man, but not enough for two.


116 posted on 08/19/2007 9:55:07 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: fabian
"Porn takes sex into an unhealthy place for mind and soul. Have you noticed that?"

Nonsense... although if you already have odd emotional problems, then it may make things worse.

117 posted on 08/19/2007 9:55:16 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: ellery

Funny thing is porn is becoming one of America’s best industries. I read once it could be a 94 billion dollar business. Way way bigger the Hollywood. So of course the government is going to go after it, and try to drive it offshore.


118 posted on 08/19/2007 9:58:12 PM PDT by ran20
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To: MHGinTN
Have you ever listened to Melissa Scott teach from the scriptures? Do you believe Jesus saves? Well, if you can get a trickle of the Spirit power God has graced her with, you might even not make such smarmy posts!

Yes, i have. Melissa Scott is somebody who supposedly knows eight languages (and apparently can't say 'NO' in any of them). Her 'preaching' is a bad rehash of her late Husband's sermon notes, and in spite of her high tech blackboards, she really doesn't know Greek...at least not as a language.

That said, she does sing quite well, especially the more bluesy stuff.

Gene Scott did have the advantage of knowing what he was talking about. Melissa Scott does not.

119 posted on 08/19/2007 9:59:42 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: tarheelswamprat

Natural linguist is a code word for “Don’t know squat about the original languages of the bible.”

i’d believe that she’s pretty good with French and Greek, but question whether she could actually speak them.


120 posted on 08/19/2007 10:01:20 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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