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Tobacco road (global warming lawsuits coming?)
National Review ^ | 8-17-07 | Chris Horner

Posted on 08/19/2007 5:56:26 AM PDT by Renfield

A little birdie recently chirped about some usual-suspect state attorneys general preparing a litigation strategy document for/with environmental pressure groups, providing a roadmap for cooperatively replicating the tobacco litigation of a decade ago in the "global warming" context, substituting that projected catastrophe for cancer and "big energy" for tobacco companies.

The point of such exercise would not be to litigate the matter to conclusion — ever more challenging what with forced corrections of the temperature record, recent exposure of the woeful reliability of our own world's most reliable surface measuring network, and of course no global warming in a decade (or, we now know, since 1900 for that matter) — but to extract massive settlements from the energy industry to further fund the trial lawyers, greens and the greens' pet projects. Just imagine the anti-energy campaign that this model would yield! And at no cost, really, except to anyone who uses energy and/or invests in these sleepy "granny stocks". Oh, and the economy......

(Excerpt) Read more at planetgore.nationalreview.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: environment; gore; lawsuit; lawsuits; nitwittery; warming
Important stuff here. The Pirates are on the loose again....
1 posted on 08/19/2007 5:56:28 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield

Too bad they didn’t write in the Constitution that no lawyer would be allowed to hold public office.


2 posted on 08/19/2007 6:02:00 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Renfield

If we let the lawyers cripple our energy industry, it will have a devastating effect on our economy in the short and long haul. This country runs on energy. Most people have little clue what’s involved here.


3 posted on 08/19/2007 6:04:28 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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4 posted on 08/19/2007 6:14:57 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: Renfield
"A little birdie..."??? Heck, there are already lawsuits making these types of claims, plus lots of stories out there about it. For example:

In three weeks (from Aug 9, 2007), a coast attorney will walk into the Gulfport federal courthouse and argue that since his research indicates oil companies contributed to global warming, they contributed to Katrina's devastation.

and

Indeed, trial lawyers are gearing up to turn global warming into their next pot of gold. A coalition of environmental groups and cities are suing the Overseas Private Investment Corporation and the Export-Import Bank of the United States for making loans to finance oil pipelines, oil drilling, and similar projects that supposedly result in a net emission of billions of tons of carbon dioxide. After Hurricane Katrina, New Orleans trial lawyers Gerald Mapes and Timothy Porter sued dozens of energy companies, claiming they had contributed to global warming.
and
Top Dallas firm Thompson & Knight started a dedicated climate-change practice June 4 with 26 lawyers. Monday, Dallas' Vinson & Elkins will unveil its 41-lawyer group, headed by a former senior counsel for the World Bank.

The law firms – and a dozen others nationwide – are getting ready for a predicted explosion of climate-related work tied to government regulation, lawsuits against energy companies and new markets that will trade the rights to emit carbon.

5 posted on 08/19/2007 6:18:49 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: xcamel

Most people don’t smoke, so the tobacco settlement didn’t affect them. Of those who do, most feel guilty about smoking and never put up a fuss over the settlement. GW lawsuits will be different. They will affect everyone and most people do not feel guilty about CO2. I don’t think that it will get very far before there is a popular backlash.


6 posted on 08/19/2007 6:27:16 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: Renfield

Latest Weather Channel Headline: 8-19-07
GORE’S GLOBAL FLATULENCE COULD SNUFF THE BUTT!


7 posted on 08/19/2007 6:46:12 AM PDT by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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To: beef
"I don’t think that it will get very far before there is a popular backlash"

Unfortunately, "popular backlash" does NOTHING. (Look at the popular backlash against illegal invasion to see how much it means).

When corporate interests (cheap labor) buys the politico's with massive contribuitons to keep them in office, the popular backlash is insignicant or less.

Follow the money and you'll find that enforcement of the law is selective; this is all about the MONEY to be made by Lawyers, a new hidden "tax" on energy companies, which will be (as always) paid by the consumers and taxpayers. There's no end to these taxes-via-megabucks-class action lawsuits.

8 posted on 08/19/2007 6:49:42 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: Renfield

If this succeeds, the floodgates will open. Lawsuits against energy companies for causing tornadoes, dry weather, wet weather,,,you name it.


10 posted on 08/19/2007 7:04:07 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Sounds like a job for Paul Kersey.


11 posted on 08/19/2007 7:05:56 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: chessplayer
If this succeeds, the floodgates will open. Lawsuits against energy companies for causing tornadoes, dry weather, wet weather,,,you name it.

This had better not succeed.

First of all, there is no way to prove any cause and effect regarding specific weather.

Secondly, if the energy companies are at fault, so is every single person, including the lawyers and judges. Just the act of holding trials will result in more carbon to be emitted than would have happened without the trials.

Thirdly, if it does succeed, I see economic collapse and possible worldwide revolutions once the people get fed up with living like cave men again.

12 posted on 08/19/2007 8:10:39 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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To: Gondring
...In three weeks (from Aug 9, 2007), a coast attorney will walk into the Gulfport federal courthouse and argue that since his research indicates oil companies contributed to global warming, they contributed to Katrina's devastation...

From the article

"It should be pointed out that Maples showed up for his interview in a Mazda Miata, powered by some of the gas produced by the oil companies he's suing. So he was asked, if his theory was true, wasn't he also contributing to global warming, and therefore also to blame for Katrina's devastation. Not really, he said."

Typical! Oh, no, it is nothing I am doing. It is what everyone else is doing. Don't expect me to change my lifestyle.
13 posted on 08/19/2007 9:09:11 AM PDT by Islander7 ("Show me an honest politician and I will show you a case of mistaken identity.")
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To: Renfield
Just wait until all agriculture is on the list. We could literally be litigated from existence.
14 posted on 08/19/2007 9:12:40 AM PDT by eyedigress
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To: Abby4116
Too bad they didn’t write in the Constitution that no lawyer would be allowed to hold public office.

Imo it did give the option at least to disallow them from the legislative or executive positions. As emissaries of the court lawyers are imo part of the judicial branch of government. Therefore when a lawyer becomes a legislator or president.. they are violating the seperation of powers act.

I honestly believe the issue is going to hit us in the near future.. We've got to get our lawyers under control, who are wrecking our economy.. eg.. forcing firms to outsource just to avoid liability even when its more expensive. And wrecking our healthcare system, by putting a parasitic extraordinarily wealthy class of people in charge of medicine, who profit from not understanding it.

15 posted on 08/19/2007 9:15:57 AM PDT by ran20
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To: traditional1

Thats what they will go for, a tax on gasoline that will go to the lawyers and judges.. maybe 30-50 cents a gallon. That everyone will be mandated to pay.


16 posted on 08/19/2007 9:17:35 AM PDT by ran20
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To: SteamShovel

Also just the act of holding trials even if the oil companies somehow win the rigged game, where the judges benefit from having as many trials as possible going forward.. Even if they win a lawsuit they still have to pay the legal costs.. And to pay for that the companies will need to up the prices they charge on oil. Probably only a penny or two at first more per gallon.


17 posted on 08/19/2007 9:19:50 AM PDT by ran20
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To: ran20
And of course, if Hillary pushes for socializing health care, shouldn't legal care be socialized first? Anyone think that would ever happen?
18 posted on 08/19/2007 11:41:54 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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