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After 9/11, Rudy Wasn't Rescue Worker--He Was a Yankee (Spent 2x More Hours at Baseball than WTC)
Salon.com ^ | Aug. 18, 2007 | By Alex Koppelman

Posted on 08/18/2007 8:54:45 AM PDT by hardback

Giuliani said he spent as much time at ground zero as many rescue workers. Where was he really? Much of the time, at baseball games.

By Alex Koppelman

Aug. 18, 2007 | On Friday, a New York Times story examined Rudy Giuliani's schedule in the months after 9/11 to verify his controversial claim that, like rescue workers, he'd spent long hours at ground zero, and so was "in that sense ... one of them." In fact, the Times found, he only spent 29 hours at the terror site between Sept. 17 and Dec. 16.

What was he doing instead? Giuliani's beloved New York Yankees made it to the World Series in 2001. We decided to compare the time he spent on baseball to the time he spent at the ruins of the World Trade Center.

The results were, considering the mayor's long-standing devotion to the Bronx Bombers, unsurprising. By our count, Giuliani spent about 58 hours at Yankees games or flying to them in the 40 days between Sept. 25 and Nov. 4, roughly twice as long as he spent at ground zero in the 60 days between Sept. 17 and Dec. 16. By his own standard, Giuliani was one of the Yankees more than he was one of the rescue workers.

During three postseason playoff series that began Oct. 10, 2001, and ended Nov. 4, 2001, Giuliani attended every one of the team's home games, with the possible exception of the third game of the American League Championship Series, for which Salon could not confirm his attendance. According to Salon's arithmetic, Giuliani spent about 33 hours in stadiums -- this includes two World Series games he watched in Phoenix -- during the Yankees' 2001 postseason run, four hours more than he spent at ground zero. (We do not know if he stayed for every pitch, but famed baseball writer Roger Angell described Giuliani in the the New Yorker as a "devout Yankee fan, a guy who stays on until the end of the game.")

Giuliani also attended the first regular season game the Yankees played in New York after the attacks; that game lasted almost three hours. (We do not know if he was present for any of the Yankees' other seven post-9/11 home games.) And he spent one of the away World Series games in a specially reserved box with his son at the ESPN Zone in Times Square, London's Daily Mail reported. The Daily Mail said he did that, in fact, for every away game of the American League Championship Series and the Yankees' first-round Division Series against the Oakland A's, but Salon could not independently verify that report. (Giuliani watched the first game of the World Series from his City Hall office.)

Then there's the whirlwind tour Giuliani made traveling back and forth to Arizona for games six and seven of the World Series. Granted, he and his now-estranged children were traveling with a small entourage composed of the families of some of 9/11's victims; Major League Baseball had chipped in free tickets, Continental Airlines had donated a charter jet, and hotel rooms were comped as well. Still, once those families were in Arizona, Giuliani -- who had been predicting that game six would bring a Yankees victory and an end to the series -- made an extraordinary effort to ensure that he could attend to his responsibilities in New York and still make it back for game seven.

Giuliani left game six midway through, the Associated Press reported at the time, so that he could make his 12:30 a.m. flight back to New York, where he needed to spend some time discussing the U.S. anthrax attacks, which by then had touched New York's City Hall. The mayor was in Staten Island by 9:30 a.m. to kick off the New York City Marathon. Then it was back to the airport a few hours later, and on to Arizona for game seven. That, in total, meant 22 hours in the air.

But Giuliani's involvement with the team went far beyond a time commitment. He was, in fact, a visible, constant presence at the postseason games and, more than once, a participant in the team's victory celebrations. Dave Johnson, executive sports editor of the Evansville Courier & Press, even wrote a column at the time bemoaning Giuliani's omnipresence and saying, "If I didn't already dislike the New York Yankees, I'd root against them just because of Rudolph Giuliani ... Who anointed Rudy baseball's new Super Fan?" The mayor was pulled on the field after the Yankees clinched both the American League Division Series and Championship Series, and spent time in the clubhouse after those victories as well.

Nor did Giuliani's involvement start as some attempt to boost the city's spirits after the tragedy it experienced. As the Village Voice's Wayne Barrett has previously reported, Giuliani has four Yankees World Series rings from the time he was mayor; by contrast, Barrett reported, no mayor in any other city that's won a championship since 1995 has any Series ring at all. Barrett also reported that Giuliani attended at least 20 of the Yankees regular season games each year he was mayor.

Giuliani also found time during the period studied by the Times to, for example, make a call to slugger Jason Giambi exhorting him to leave the A's and sign with the Yankees. Giambi did, on Dec. 13. A day later, Giuliani introduced Giambi at City Hall, where, according to the Associated Press, Giambi said, "[Giuliani] was going to help me find somewhere to live, so I'm going to take him up on it."

And though the final budget he submitted as mayor called for serious belt-tightening around the city -- cuts as high as 15 percent for most agencies -- in the wake of the attacks and the $40 billion debt New York faced, Giuliani wasn't quite prepared to subject the Yankees or their counterpart Mets to the same penny-pinching. In fact, though nearly everyone expected 9/11 to cause the city to abandon the plans for new stadiums for the teams -- Long Island's Newsday reported that "since Sept. 11, several city officials, including [then-Mayor-elect Michael] Bloomberg, have said the projects were on the back burner because of the city's other pressing needs" -- Giuliani wanted to push forward. The stadiums were projected to have cost $1.6 billion in city, state and private funds.

Giuliani did need a place to play, after all. Though rumors were swirling at the time about what his future held after the end of his final term as mayor, Giuliani was generally unwilling to give specifics. He was willing, however, to jokingly suggest one possibility -- "right field for the Yankees," the Associated Press quoted him as saying while swinging an imaginary bat.

A spokeswoman for Giuliani did not return a voice-mail message left seeking comment


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 911; baseball; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; rudygiuliani; salon
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To: hardback

This is attack is so “Swift Boat” its not even funny. The only reason Guiliani is even running is because he was the hero of 9-11. Take away that and you have just another liberal mayor. I should be in politics. Anyone have Karl Rove’s digits? :)


41 posted on 08/18/2007 12:10:11 PM PDT by asparagus
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To: asparagus
Karl was talking about Fred's campaign the other day in the Washington Post... :)


42 posted on 08/18/2007 12:15:43 PM PDT by hardback
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To: hardback

Giuliani will prosecute the War On Terror from his box at Yankee Stadium!


43 posted on 08/18/2007 12:47:13 PM PDT by TommyDale (Never forget the Republicans who voted for illegal immigrant amnesty in 2007!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

“Rudy should get out of the race now and save whatever reputation he has remaining before it becomes completely shredded”

Good suggestion, but Rudy’s ego won’t allow it.


44 posted on 08/18/2007 2:07:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: TommyDale

“Giuliani will prosecute the War On Terror from his box at Yankee Stadium!”

ROTFLMAO!!


45 posted on 08/18/2007 2:12:46 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: CaptainK; Extremely Extreme Extremist
The Voice and Salon will trash any and every Republican nominee. Including your personal choice. Will you look to them then and be swayed by their crack reporting?

Ruby Julie Annie trashed himself...








46 posted on 08/18/2007 2:26:11 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

You didn’t answer the question.


47 posted on 08/18/2007 2:29:57 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: CaptainK

I don’t need to care what the press says about a liberal...


48 posted on 08/18/2007 2:36:52 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: willk
I’m pro life partly because I despise the politics of those who are pro choice. I’m starting to feel the same about those who are so rabidly pro life that they would cut their nose off despite their face and allow Hillary to become president. She will probably nominate at least 2 socialists to the Supreme court!

I have felt the same way about prolife radicals for some time now. They haven't a nit's worth of moral discernment. Life presents us with a hierarchy of goods (and evils). We are rarely presented with moral choices that are entirely black and white. Sometimes we have to compromise with our principles to advance a greater good. The self-righteousness and ignorance of certain prolifers makes them blind to these facts.
49 posted on 08/18/2007 3:38:07 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: hardback

Wonder why thye didn’t audit his time at the WTC site between 01— and 9-17?

Why not include the time he spent at the funerals of Firemen and cops?

That would go into the hundred if not over a thousand hours.


50 posted on 08/18/2007 3:47:24 PM PDT by Leto
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To: Condor51
The arrogant mutt Rooty brought this on himself with his 'I was always at Ground Zero comment'. If he didn't think the MSM (or anyone) would actually check his schedule - he's a buffoon and an idiot, but I already knew that.

There's a reason Gary Hart never became President

51 posted on 08/18/2007 5:17:14 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy
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To: hardback; All
just oozing pity fall all the great citizens who eat this nonsense up.

A twofer. Hit the Yankees and Rudy with one shot.

But the Presdent gets a pass for throwing out the first pitch.

52 posted on 08/19/2007 7:49:33 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Hate me, I'm white.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

“fall all” should be “for all,” for those in Rio Linda.


53 posted on 08/19/2007 7:50:04 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Hate me, I'm white.)
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

I dont think Rootie will get the NRA endorsement for 2008! :)


54 posted on 08/19/2007 2:50:18 PM PDT by hardback
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To: hardback

I’m no Rudy fan, but this is just a pathetic hit piece.


55 posted on 08/19/2007 2:51:30 PM PDT by KoRn (Just Say NO ....To Liberal Republicans - FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: hardback

I also heard Giuliani on Hannity’s radio show claiming that he took every physical risk that the firefighters and rescue workers did.

Salon’s a liberal rag, but it’s Giuliani’s ridiculous hyperbole that made him a target here.


56 posted on 08/19/2007 11:22:13 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: attiladhun2; willk

Your slander of anti-Giuliani pro-lifers aside, why do you assume that opposition to Giuliani must be based on abortion? Many here oppose him because of his anti-second-amendment views, or his abuse of fourth and fifth amendment protections, or a long line of other examples of his hostility to the Constitution, or his innate authoritarianism, or his long history appointing corrupt cronies, or his lack of foreign policy experience, or his double-talk....

The view that opposition to Giuliani centers solely on the abortion issue is a media-concocted strawman.


57 posted on 08/19/2007 11:33:18 PM PDT by ellery (I don't remember a constitutional amendment that gives you the right not to be identified-R.Giuliani)
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To: ellery

I am not assuming anything. I have problems with Guiliani myself, but I have just as many problems with one-issue anti-abortion people. I have voted for pro-choice republicans, even though I am against abortion unless the life of the mother is in jeopardy. Most one issue anti-aborts would castigate my strategic decision, as an unforgiveable compromise. I have been accused of being a RINO, a closet leftwinger, etc., by anti-Guiliani and/or prolife zealots. So my “slander” (actually libel, but not in a legal sense) of certain anti-Guiliani prolifers is just turnaround.


58 posted on 08/20/2007 11:44:03 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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To: hardback
I wonder how many hours the REAL rescue workers spent at baseball games? I bet the answer is little or none.
59 posted on 08/20/2007 3:03:52 PM PDT by elizabetty (The funding dried up and I can no longer afford Tagline Messages.)
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To: sten

Also, After the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, Clinton NEVER visited the site even when he was as close as New Jersey awhile later.

I always remind people of this when they complain about President Bush waiting four days to vist the WTC and New Orleans.


60 posted on 08/20/2007 3:08:37 PM PDT by Sneakyuser (Sneakyuses.com)
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