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RON PAUL DEFRAUDED BY IOWA STRAW POLL PROCESS -- Part I (LAUGH ALERT)
votefraud.org ^ | Jim Condit Jr.

Posted on 08/17/2007 10:46:03 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

This e-wire / report ultimately makes two points:

1. The voting process at the Iowa Straw Poll was a fraud, wrapped in lies. (Whenever those running any kind of an election use police power to hide all the ballots from the people, and then announce results (?) when supposedly (?) only they have seen the ballots – those people are frauds, are acting like Stalin-esque tyrants, and their organization is a fraud.

That award goes in our current drama to the Iowa GOP leadership, namely Ted Sporer, Chuck Laudner, Mary Tiffany, Craig Robinson, and Chairman Ray Hoffman. What they did to Ron Paul and all those who paid $35 to vote in the Iowa Straw Poll, and all those who entered into a contract with them by paying $35 to support the event, is UNCONSCIONABLE!

These KGB/GESTAPO TYPES, groveling before the sinister banking powers in NYC and behind the RNC and the DNC, -- and acting as their enforcers in Iowa -- hid all the EVIDENCE (the ballots) at the Iowa Straw Poll and announced the alleged results based on their assertion alone – which the rest of us are supposed to take and believe on blind faith!

I am joined by already thousands of others in saying: WE DON’T BELIEVE YOU! You hid the evidence! You have hidden the ballots – and now you have had time to switch the ballots! You fronted for crooks, thieves, enemies of America, enemies of honest people everywhere!

The US Supreme Court has ruled twice in the last one hundred years, in U.S v Mosley (1915) and Reynolds v Sims (1964), that our right to vote includes not only the right to cast a ballot, but the right to know that our vote was counted accurately.

There is only one reason to hide the ballots from press, from candidates, and from the people – because those so hiding the ballots want to keep open the option to cheat – to rig the election.

The evidence is the BALLOTS, which should have been kept in public view all day, and counted in the presence of ALL factions, before said ballots leave the public view.

LONGEST DELAY EVER

In 1995, when the “unbelievable” tie occurred between CFR favorites Senator Bob Dole and Senator Phil Graham – the doors were locked for two solid hours after the voting ended.

As I have said for years, only the GOP leadership was behind the locked doors in 1995, and all of them supported either Dole or Graham. The published “results” that year were that Buchanan, who by far got the best reception from the crowd, came in second with about 1950 – but that Dole and Graham “tied” for first place at exactly 2501 to 2501.

MANY people were not buying it, and Robert Novak of CNN suggested the next morning that the straw poll vote had been “cooked.” (By the way, Fred Smart interviewed a person on Saturday who also gave his witness from 1995 that only Dole and Graham people were behind the locked doors in the “counting” room in 1995.)

Our strong suspicion was that Buchanan came in first in 1995, but this result was unpalatable to the Neo-Cons running the GOP in NYC and D.C. So, the Dole and Graham people wanted to place Buchanan in second place, but neither would give way to the other on first place. Thus, the almost impossible tie was agreed upon.

This year of 2007 saw the longest delay EVER – 15 minutes loger than the 1995 delay. In 2007, the Ron Paul year, -- it was 2 hours and 15 minutes before the announcement came from the podium.

THE BEST HUNCH

While we are totally devoid of evidence (the ballots), the best analysis I’ve heard is this: that probably Dr. Paul came in second to Romney who spent hundreds of thousands of $$ to bus in people.

However, this result – Ron Paul coming in second place in the 2007 Iowa Straw Poll -- was totally unpalatable to the Iowa GOP and their NYC masters and D.C. handlers. Such a result would have shown both the GOP at the state and national level, and the 5 Big TV Networks – to be liars and falsifiers of evidence up until the Iowa Straw Poll.

The World Tyranny Ruling Elite needed Paul to appear to finish near the bottom so that they could ignore him completely on the mass media. Therefore, the suspicion is that Ron Paul’s vote was partially stolen and distributed to Huckabee, Brownback, and Romney. (Tancredo would not be helped by the Iowa GOP, despite his neo-con outlook on foreign affairs, because his anti-illegal immigration stance is completely unpalatable to the Ruling Elite in NYC and D.C. who dictate to the Iowa GOP, and all other state GOPs.)

As usual in computer-generated elections – everything came up smelling like roses for the Neo-con wirepullers behind the scenes of both parties.

THE AFFIDAVITS ARE ESSENTIAL! PLEASE HELP!

2. We need the affidavits of 1306+ Iowans who voted at the straw poll for Ron Paul – in order to prove, if such is the case, that the PUBLISHED count which the Iowa GOP announced was not accurate with regard to Ron Paul’s vote. (All who actually voted are welcome to submit affidavits.)

SOME DISTURBING NUMBERS

The comprehensive published “results” will be in a future report in this series -- view them online here:

http://blog.ronpaul2008.com/ron_paul_2008/2007/08/iowa-straw-poll.html

-- but at this point the reader may want to know that the Iowa GOP claims that Romney came in first with 4516 votes, and Ron Paul came in 5th with 1305 votes.

Hear ye! Hear ye! The Ron Paul Campaign has confirmed to callers what was repeated at the event itself -- that the campaign bought and gave away 800 tickets. The “Adopt an Iowan group” (an independent effort) has published that they had collected $22,500 and purchased 643 tickets. (By the way, since the “Adopt and Iowan” page won’t allow you to copy it, I have printed it out to preserve the documentation.)

So now we are being asked to believe that Ron Paul got less votes (1305) than the tickets purchased by the campaign and the “Adopt an Iowan” campaign (totally 1443) – and that NO ONE in Iowa came on their own to pay $35 and vote for Ron Paul !!!!!

The Ron Paul Campaign AND the Adopt an Iowan campaign kept track of who the tickets were given to (I hope). This is enough affidavits to prove that the announced Diebold “count” was wrong. – And we want to find as many other Iowa citizens as possible who paid $35 out of their own pocket to vote – so we can get their affidavits also.

This seems to be a smoking gun. This will be the greatest and most irrefutable proof ever that a Diebold computer was used to rig an election!

We need the affidavits of any Iowan who voted for Ron Paul at the Ames, Iowa Straw Poll. If we succeed – then we will have the proof that the Diebold computers at the Iowa Straw Poll of 2007 – were rigged.

If you voted in the Iowa Straw Poll on August 11, 2007 – and if you need an affidavit to make sure your vote counts, and especially if you want to help us prove whether or not the result published for Ron Paul was accurate – you can go to:

www.votefraud.org/iowa_straw_poll_2007_report_affidavit_part1.htm

At the top and bottom of that article is a link to the relevant affidavit. Simply right click on the link, use “Save target as” and save the word document to your computer where you can find it. You will then have an affidavit to fill out, and get notarized at a bank, Kinkos, etc., and to mail back to us.

A number of affidavits are already in hand.

End of this e-wire.

Jim Condit Jr.


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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; wideawake; George W. Bush
Apparently, he's also quite the Tom Tancredo booster.

Would you like to explain to Jim Robinson why, on a Conservative website, you feel it necessary to smear a good man like Tom Tancredo as some kind of Neo-Nazi?

I mean, just following your perverted illogic to its conclusion...

Ok OP, while i'm admittedly having a slow day, i still could not follow that train of thought.

i am the one who posted the link, NOT Wideawake

Review the string of posts, extend and revise as necessary.

If i missed your logic on this matter (it has been a slow day for me), than kindly expand upon your reasoning

701 posted on 08/21/2007 2:29:33 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: George W. Bush
Man, you're giving off the same vibe I was getting from the MIHOP freaks on the History Channel last night. Watching you try to spin people who support victory in Iraq into some kind of troop haters was like watching truthers talking about how fire can't melt steel. Take one of these...


...and call a psychiatrist in the morning.

702 posted on 08/21/2007 3:24:17 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Libs obviously don’t believe pro-lifers are terrorists, or they'd placate us by banning abortion.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Obviously, you can't address the points I raised forcibly so you resort to ad hominem attack.

Typical of the Paul-haters. It's a predictable pattern of behavior.
703 posted on 08/21/2007 4:06:17 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush
Obviously, you can't address the points I raised forcibly so you resort to ad hominem attack.

Obviously you are a raving nutter and have made ad hominem attacks of your own by whining that folks who disagree with you hate the troops. Take the thorazine, 'cause goodness knows you need it.

704 posted on 08/21/2007 5:02:32 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Libs obviously don’t believe pro-lifers are terrorists, or they'd placate us by banning abortion.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Obviously you are a raving nutter and have made ad hominem attacks of your own by whining that folks who disagree with you hate the troops.

In fact, I have documented plenty of instances of FReepers attacking the troops who don't happen to say what they want to hear.

You refuse to address that and instead try a lame attack. Again, you can't score points against Ron Paul. You refuse to argue the points that I made (since they are so obviously true) and you therefore resort to ad hominem attack, a favorite tactic of the Paul-haters on many threads.

Hopefully, it isn't against the rules for me to point out the usual Paul-hater's M.O. which is quite consistent.
705 posted on 08/21/2007 5:08:39 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush
I'm sorry, apparently you've mistaken the following...

1. Me realizing you're a conspiracist no more reasonable than a MIHOP nutter and therefore not worth my time

2. Me not giving a rat's patoot what you think of my intellectual skills because of reason #1 above

...for me not being able to refute your awesome super arguments. Here's a tip: I don't go the the truther boards and argue with them, either.

However, there's good news! This guy is really interested in your theories, so he'll be taking my place:

You two have a nice time.

706 posted on 08/21/2007 5:18:52 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Libs obviously don’t believe pro-lifers are terrorists, or they'd placate us by banning abortion.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Fine. We're accustomed to the usual hit-and-run attacks by you Paul-haters.

First you fling attacks at RP that you know to be false in advance. Then you repeat them endlessly while pathetically flagging anyone you can to chime in and help you in your libelous endeavor. Then when confronted, you resort to personal attacks. Finally, you flee with your tails between your legs, claiming victory and hurling insults.

In short, you employ virtually every standard tactic of the Left when you engage in character assassination against conservatives or conservative candidates like Ron Paul.
707 posted on 08/21/2007 5:30:23 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: George W. Bush
Hit and run attack?


Digging it. Thanks for the compliment.

708 posted on 08/21/2007 8:09:29 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Libs obviously don’t believe pro-lifers are terrorists, or they'd placate us by banning abortion.)
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To: George W. Bush
Hit and run attack?


Digging it. Thanks for the compliment.

709 posted on 08/21/2007 8:10:24 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Libs obviously don’t believe pro-lifers are terrorists, or they'd placate us by banning abortion.)
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To: Chi-townChief

I guess that is why Paul’s campaign is bussing in deligates to the upcoming Texas Straw Poll, huh? /sarc


710 posted on 08/21/2007 10:03:12 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: George W. Bush; marsh_of_mists
The following may be of interest regarding the potential harm that coould be caused by individuals such as Condit to the Ron Paul campaign:

Jim Condit, Jr.; A Revolution That Should Not Be Televised (Part 1)

Jim Condit, Jr.; A Revolution That Should Not Be Televised (Part 2)

711 posted on 08/21/2007 11:13:16 PM PDT by Youngstown
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To: Youngstown
A few short paragraphs from your articles:

It’s also worth noting that all of what I’m passing on here is, for the most part, stuff that Mr. Condit himself has put out there directly. I’m not interested in innuendo or making any personal charges against him. But, he often tends to (probably for the best) keep his concerns separate. There is a Jim Condit Jr. that is an active voice in the “anti-Zionist conspiracy” movement, a Jim Condit Jr. in the “speaking out against the illegitimate Catholic Church” community, a Jim Condit Jr. in the “9-11 was an inside job” sphere, and, in the capacity through which most Ron Paul people know him, the Jim Condit Jr. that works tirelessly to expose the institutional conspiracy against the voting public that is Diebold and electronic, non-paper trail voting. All of these concerns and causes are, of course, intimately related in Jim’s mind and as a part of his broad philosophical agenda, but if you just know him in one or the other capacity, one might be unaware of the rest of the package. So, I wanted to post a synthesis.

...

In a final bit of irony, how did his 2002 race go?

It ended up hitting something of a snag when four of his volunteers (remember, he got 13 votes that year, so assuming all those volunteers voted, they represent almost a third of his base) were convicted of….vote fraud (Mr. Condit has never been accused of any wrong-doing in that incident):

“In 2001, four women were sentenced to 30 days in jail each for signing fake names on petitions they were supposed to be circulating for would-be congressional candidate Jim Condit Jr.”


712 posted on 08/22/2007 4:38:30 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: Chi-townChief

Lets see straw polls mean.....noting.
These diatribes are one of the MANY reasons Paul will never make it as a first line candidate.


713 posted on 08/22/2007 8:34:36 AM PDT by svcw (There is no plan B.)
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To: George W. Bush

Day Five of this crap thread in Breaking News.

I don’t even like Paul particularly, but this is pissing me off.


714 posted on 08/22/2007 10:33:50 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover
Look right below this article in Breaking News. You'll see "Padilla verdict in one hour in one hour" and "Jose Padilla guilty".

Maybe Sidebar Moderator is on vacation or something.

It's not just this thread. The Sidebar has been kind of strange for a while now. Breaking News used to be a lot more fun to look at because we actually had more stuff in it, it kept changing. These days, you may as well skip past it to look for actual breaking news.

By its very nature, Breaking News cannot last more than one day, IMO. Because after a day of the TV media showing video and even print media issuing articles on it, it's no longer "breaking" in any sense.

I think it makes the incentive to post articles less. Our top articles, Breaking News, are no longer a possible prize. Virtually nothing about "Sunday Morning Talk Shows" threads is a breaking news story because we all know they'll be posted like clockwork every Sunday.

Well, you get the idea. This article isn't Breaking News and never was. The larger problem is that our Sidebar is no longer as effective. Or FUN!!! I used to scan Breaking News hard and constantly look at it. Now, it's become a disappointment when I refresh the My Comments page. If Breaking News is so boring, it should be demoted down below the current Poll in the Sidebar.
715 posted on 08/22/2007 10:44:12 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: anymouse
I guess that is why Paul’s campaign is bussing in deligates to the upcoming Texas Straw Poll, huh? /sarc

I didn't see any objections by anyone here (or the Paul campaign) to Romney or Brownback or TThompson bringing in almost 400 busloads of supporters to the Ames straw poll.

So I don't see why RP using buses for the same purpose would be considered somehow underhanded.
716 posted on 08/22/2007 10:48:17 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: philman_36

“Then the Paulistinians can whine for years after about how the nomination was stolen from their liege.”

Hey, they will use what they can get to keep the little cult going. If there were no internet they would be mailing out smudgy poorly printed pamphlets.


717 posted on 08/22/2007 4:46:27 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Youngstown

The parallels are most interesting. So Jim Condit also writes also about Catholic religious issues... I know that your are well versed regarding Cardinal Siri and have thoroughly researched it.


718 posted on 08/22/2007 7:08:53 PM PDT by TAdams8591 ( Guiliani is a Democrat in Republican drag. Mitt Romney for president in 2008! : ))
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To: George W. Bush

Just pointing out the hypocracy of Paulistinians cry foul in Iowa when they are doing the exact same thing in Texas.

Paul still won’t win the Texas straw poll. By bussing in deligates, he might break out of the single digits - in his home state! bawahahahahaahahah!


719 posted on 08/22/2007 8:19:58 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: anymouse
Just pointing out the hypocracy of Paulistinians cry foul in Iowa when they are doing the exact same thing in Texas.

But none of us complained that Brownback/Romney/TThompson used hundreds of buses in Iowa. We didn't say a word. And since the Ron Paul campaign did not have anything to do with this ridiculous voting machines case and specifically discouraged it, you can hardly blame us for the wingnuts like Condit who was on a mission of his own.

Paul still won’t win the Texas straw poll. By bussing in deligates, he might break out of the single digits - in his home state!

Then why are you so worried? Beyond that, don't be so sure that his turnout there will be so low. The Texas Republican Party has some very conservative elements in it. President Bush stopped appearing at their conventions while he was still governor because they are so conservative a group.

I might be surprised if Ron Paul can win it, given the massive campaign machinery of the competition. But a surprising second or third wouldn't surprise me. We'll have to see how it goes. Like most congressmen, Ron Paul isn't all that well-known across his own state where there are so many congressmen. Texas conservatives might very well decide to send a message to the candidates field with a strong RP vote that the candidates had better start talking a lot more sound conservative policy and a lot less liberal bilge.
720 posted on 08/22/2007 8:33:42 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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