My point was not that there is something wrong in having a difference of opinion on immigration, but that some of the posts definitely were not really interested in immigration issues per se but were directed entirely at Hispanics. You’d never know from FR that one of the largest groups of illegals in the US are the Irish, for example, or that the ones we have had terrorism trouble with are not Latin Americans and not even illegals, but are Middle Eastern legally admitted student visa holders. Things like “Jorge Boosh,” which some Freepers seem to think incredibly witty, would certainly encourage this impression.
My objection was also to the fact that there was a period where these posts were appearing on every thread, regardless of topic. I know that neither of you two were the offenders, and my post was not directed at you. There were a couple of regulars who I thought went a little overboard, but for the most part, the nastier posters seem to have disappeared. Either the mods got a grip on them, or they served their purpose, that is, to tar FR, and have now gone back to lurk until the next time the Dems call them out.
Okay, I mostly agree with you on both points. I think it’s just that the most obvious influx of illegals is from south of the border and that’s the leaning of the comments. If most of the illegals were coming from China (as once happened) the comments would be geared that way.
I hear you livius, and you are right, most of the more insane posters have disappeared (whether banned, or otherwise). Which, btw, also gives credence to my theory that many of them were trolls, and operatives!
Someone else pointed out that the comments about Hispanics/Latinos/Mexicans were in response to the fact that that is indeed the majority of the make-up of the illegal immigrants in our country. It is a VERY vocal and prominent group when it comes to pushing for amnesty, etc... This is merely due to our proximity with such a corrupt, poverty-stricken country/countries to the south of us. And this is also the border that is breached on a minute-by-minute basis!
I myself, tried to point out that the whole amnesty thing did NOT just apply to Hispanics/Latinos/Mexicans, and did indeed apply to illegal Immigrants of ANY nationality, ethnic group or country. I repeated this in almost every post I ever made on the subject. Many, are focused on that specific part of the problem because they (as I) live (or have lived) among this group of people and have seen first-hand what a large illegal immigrant population does to our society.
They are also focused on that due to the fact that it was groups like La Raza and other Hispanic/Latino/Mexican groups that were working in direct-association and lobbying in Washington, with the support of our elected officials to demand amnesty, citizenship, welfare, and voting rights for illegal immigrants. (I.E. CAIR wasn’t speaking out demanding amnesty for the thousands of illegal immigrants from the ME that have overstayed their visas, and are living among us illegally... precisely because they don’t WANT us to realize there are indeed Radical Islamic terrorists in our midst, and granting amnesty to those who identify themselves as Mexican citizens (a large number of ME terrorists are in Mexico and adopt Hispanic names to come in undetected) would take care of hiding those who are here for illegal purposes (to make Jihad).)
Of course, one of the other unfortunate reasons that people are focused on those illegal immigrants who are of Hispanic/Latino/Mexican originas is because they stand out due to their skin color, and language... (My sister is Half-Mexican so I’m very familiar with the anti-Mexican racism that is in our society). As you asserted (haven’t heard it before), but Irish people are one of/the(?) largest groups of illegal immigrants in our country. I think a lot of people forget that people from Europe and across the oceans do indeed come here illegally (usually by way of overstaying their visas which is a lot different than how the majority of Hispanic/Latino/Mexican illegal aliens do). And, yes, these people do blend in to our society as they make more of an attempt (in general) to assimilate, and in some cases speak English very well already.
I myself saw many Russians, Poles, and other ethnic groups in Denver that lived in the same area I did (a low-income largely Mexican area) — presumably because of the status of Denver as a sanctuary city, and out neighborhood’s proximity to day-labor businesses, lower rents, and mass transit, and ethnic stores — not to mention a totally corrupt DMV office a few blocks away that was busted for selling licenses to illegals a few years back (after I moved).
It’s indeed unfortunate that more people didn’t address the problem of amnesty in a more “homogenous” manner. Because indeed it is not just Mexicans/Hispanics/Latinos that are causing the problems. However, if they did not wish to be singled out, I would’ve suggested that they fought for amnesty for ALL illegals instead of just ones that belonged to their ethnic group (which they did...).