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Two medical helicopters enroute to Utah mine after report of new collapse
MSNBC ^ | 8/16/2007 | MSNBC

Posted on 08/16/2007 6:55:18 PM PDT by Smogger

Two medical helicopters enroute to Utah mine after report of new collapse

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: collapse; crandallcanyon; genwalmine; mine; rescue; utah
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To: racing fan

Talk to some returning troups; they’ll change your mind.


281 posted on 08/16/2007 9:17:39 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: REDWOOD99

He has been to the and has spoken to Murray in the pass!


282 posted on 08/16/2007 9:17:45 PM PDT by restornu (Teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: restornu

#225 In the wake of 2006’s Sago Mine disaster, lawmakers in West Virginia and Ohio proposed legislation requiring mine workers to wear emergency tracking devices.

Very interesting. I am sure someone would have checked to see if the trapped miners had cell phones on them in order to triangulate their positions.


283 posted on 08/16/2007 9:18:25 PM PDT by crazyshrink
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To: glock rocks

You got a scanner?


284 posted on 08/16/2007 9:18:29 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: All
I do not understand what is so damned difficult about mine rescue.

It should not take a rocket scientist to design a Tunnel Boring Machine (TBM) that could be quickly deployed to a mine from a central location.

The TBM would be designed to drill about a 36" hole through collapsed sections, deploying steel pipe in short sections as it proceeds.

A conveyor would deliver the debris from the new tunnel back to open area where it would then be handled normally to outside mine.

As it would be working in soft, loose material, it should be able to work very quickly, perhaps as much as 50-100' per hour.

Such a TBM, due to it's small width, would be easily transportable, one could be required to be available within, say, 6 hours at most from any underground mine.

If anyone with mining or engineering expertise can find a problem with this solution I'd like to hear it.

285 posted on 08/16/2007 9:18:44 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: editor-surveyor

So leaving the borders wide open is good?


286 posted on 08/16/2007 9:19:09 PM PDT by racing fan (Go Team Israel!)
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To: restornu

Another AirMed leaving the pad at Umed for Price.

All miners in current event have accounted for. One dead, eight injured.


287 posted on 08/16/2007 9:21:05 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray every day for our Patriot Armed Forces fighting to protect our way of life.)
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To: 2111USMC

Yes.


288 posted on 08/16/2007 9:21:55 PM PDT by glock rocks (Please pray every day for our Patriot Armed Forces fighting to protect our way of life.)
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To: racing fan

Maybe you and I can meet up at the FReeper picnic in Fresno. I like to talk about politics and Nascar. I’d especially enjoy discussing the names you like to call my president.


289 posted on 08/16/2007 9:22:04 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: diogenes ghost

And said TBM would not be air-transportable due to weight.

In addition, do you have any idea just how slow a TBM is?


290 posted on 08/16/2007 9:22:17 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: crazyshrink; All

well...soon...just not yet

http://www.sycoleman.com/news/releases07.html

7.24.2007 - National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health Awards L-3 SYColeman Contract to Develop Cutting-Edge Underground Mine Communications System Responding to the Requirements of the 2006 MINER Act

SYColeman Corporation (SYC) of Arlington, VA, a wholly-owned subsidiary of L-3 Communications, today announced that it has received a contract from the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) to develop a robust and reliable wireless communications system for underground coal mine safety applications.

The passage of the MINER Act by Congress has highlighted the need for improved safety capabilities in the nation’s underground coal mines. These safety capabilities include not only improved breathing apparatuses and emergency shelters, but also the systems necessary for mine operators and mine rescue teams to communicate with and locate miners in both everyday and emergency situations.

-snip-


291 posted on 08/16/2007 9:22:19 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: crazyshrink
see if the trapped miners had cell phones

There isn't even cell service outside in that area, let alone deep underground.

The reporters are all jonesing for their cells, and they have to use an occasional satellite phone to get a call off.

292 posted on 08/16/2007 9:22:57 PM PDT by Semper911 ("We can stand here like the French, or we can do something about it." -Marge Simpson)
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To: JRochelle

It was the Pasta de Conchas disaster in Mexico.

65 men were trapped underground. After 15 MONTHS only two out of the 65 bodies were recovered and the search was suspended. Story here:

http://www.mexidata.info/id1394.html


293 posted on 08/16/2007 9:23:24 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Buy a Mac ...)
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To: diogenes ghost
If anyone with mining or engineering expertise can find a problem with this solution I'd like to hear it.

You admit you have no mining experience, yet you have the solution? Book the next flight to Utah if you have the answer. Sheesh.

294 posted on 08/16/2007 9:24:49 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: crazyshrink
I am sure someone would have checked to see if the trapped miners had cell phones on them in order to triangulate their positions.

Considering that cell phones can start to lose signal inside buildings, I'm pretty sure they'd be totally useless under a 1000 feet of rock.

If they could be "triangulated", the cell-phone user could just call and say "We're at grid location xyz".

295 posted on 08/16/2007 9:30:12 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: restornu

Who? (He’s on 1st)


296 posted on 08/16/2007 9:30:54 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: REDWOOD99

What’s on second.

_____________________________

I have no ideas whats on third.


297 posted on 08/16/2007 9:32:11 PM PDT by racing fan (Go Team Israel!)
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To: racing fan

I don’t know.


299 posted on 08/16/2007 9:33:25 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: therut

Be a human, just to start...


300 posted on 08/16/2007 9:35:26 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Dick Cheney should have gone hunting with Hillary." -- Yakov Smirnoff)
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