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What the Media Should Report About the Ames Straw Poll (Romney, Huckabee, Ron Paul)
USAElectionPolls.com ^ | 8/12/07 | David Terr

Posted on 08/14/2007 9:39:58 AM PDT by George W. Bush

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Thanks for the PING George.

Well, I had to feed the trolls anyway. I knew they were getting hungry down under that dank bridge.
41 posted on 08/14/2007 10:29:26 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: NCSteve

Romney is a very good business man and administrator, on those things he is top notch and he is well spoken and he does get things accomplished, we could do a lot worse then Mitt.

The thing that I like about Ron Paul is the lack of the need for back flips to explain the “why” he does things, his reasons are straight forward and crystal clear.

Fred has “some” of those qualities, being in the Beltway for so long though sort of makes his positions more mixed.


42 posted on 08/14/2007 10:30:28 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: Badeye
The article about Ron Paul’s ‘earmarks’ was the last straw for me. What a hypocrite.

We're still waiting for the Paul-trolls to post any earmarks his district actually received.
43 posted on 08/14/2007 10:31:32 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: padre35

I am just reporting my own observation. I had 3 different campaigns offer me free tickets. I saw stacks of them being passed around.

You did have to show your ID to prove you were an Iowan but did not have to prove that you were a Republican.


44 posted on 08/14/2007 10:33:21 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: George W. Bush

Fair enough. When they do, what will the Paulie Girls say then is the only pertinent question.

Will they remain true to their stated ‘principals’ or will they spend countless hours explaining it all away, as they did with his comment about our ‘policies in the last decade’ being the reason we were attacked on 9/11?


45 posted on 08/14/2007 10:34:45 AM PDT by Badeye (Gawd, I hope Badeye sees this! (Ping, and I always will))
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To: iowamark

“I am just reporting my own observation. I had 3 different campaigns offer me free tickets. I saw stacks of them being passed around.

You did have to show your ID to prove you were an Iowan but did not have to prove that you were a Republican.”

Thanks iowamark, that is helpful.

Ron Paul doesn’t conduct polls, so it is hard to know which or even how many Dems support or even voted for the guy.


46 posted on 08/14/2007 10:35:37 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: George W. Bush

So, Romney wouldn’t win unless he had 70%!!! OMG!


47 posted on 08/14/2007 10:37:28 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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To: George W. Bush

Fascinating interp. of data.


48 posted on 08/14/2007 10:42:16 AM PDT by Siobhan (America without God is dead.)
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To: iowamark
Why do you think he is the “best chance for a win?” His personal wealth is the only strong positive I see.

I wasn't asked but I'll chime in to as why I think he's a strong candidate:
He's an articulate and telegenic problem solver who has taken on big things like the Salt Lake City Olympics, he managed to get elected as a Republican in a deep blue state, he has been fantastically successful in business, and he'd be running against Hillary Clinton. Ok, the last part would be true for whoever we nominate.

49 posted on 08/14/2007 10:48:58 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("I mean, he's gone from Jane Fonda to Dr. Strangelove in one week." - Romney on B. Hussein Obama)
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To: Oberon
Yep, Romney won.

Ron Paul also dusted both Thompsons, Rudy Giuliani, and John McCain, against all expectations.

Those two pieces of data were the real news from this poll.

Agreed, except I think Huckabee's second place finish was notable, as well.

50 posted on 08/14/2007 10:53:23 AM PDT by xjcsa (Hillary Clinton is nothing more than Karl Marx with huge calves.)
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To: George W. Bush

This analysis is quite flawed.

First, why would one think that Guilliani supporters would show up and vote “proportionally” for other candidates, much less a much more conservative Romney? It’s more likely that the Gulliani and McCain supporters would simply stay home.

Oh, except that they might see value in hurting the candidate who most threatens their candidate. So they might show up, and vote for a 2nd-tier candidate with no chance, in the hopes they can get ignorant fools to write about how it makes Romney a “loser”.

They might, for example, show up and vote for Mike Huckabee.

See, if they show up and vote for Guiliani, or Thompson, or McCain respectively, their candidate will still lose, and it will look like their candidate TRIED to win and lost.

But if they all show up and vote for Huckabee, it looks like Romney couldn’t out-distance the field.

Or better, many of them probably thought voting for Ron Paul would be funny.


51 posted on 08/14/2007 11:01:24 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: George W. Bush

Thanks for the ping. This has been a surprisingly moderate thread, considering the content of the post.


52 posted on 08/14/2007 11:13:20 AM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: NCSteve; George W. Bush; Badeye

My hometown checking in. Good to see. Alfred and Charlie’s BBQ is about 8 miles from my parents’ house. Know the area well and those numbers are about right for Gaston County. Dallas/Cherryville (upper part of the county) is even a little more so I’d think. If Dr. Paul is getting that much recognition in Gaston, I wouldn’t be suprised if he’s got some more presence over in that part of the state


53 posted on 08/14/2007 11:29:29 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears

Thanks.


54 posted on 08/14/2007 11:30:39 AM PDT by Badeye (Gawd, I hope Badeye sees this! (Ping, and I always will))
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To: George W. Bush
Title should read "Author from Berkeley wants to paint Romney's win as a loss."

Romney won the straw poll by the same amount George W. Bush did in 2004. I guess that was a "loss" as well according to the Berkely crowd.

Romney beat the number two by a higher margin than Bush did. He won by 13% over second place to Bush's 10%. Romney's win says a lot no matter how the MSM try to spin it.

55 posted on 08/14/2007 11:45:07 AM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: George W. Bush
Giuliani has... dressed in drag

I'm no fan on Rudy "One Note" Guliani but I am sick of seeing and hearing about how he dressed in drag for Halloween or Saturday Nite Live or something. OK, the guy's got a sense of humor, good! If you want to beat up on him mention how he parlayed 911 into a book and and lecture tour and is now running for President but didn't feel the need to run against H*llary Clinton for NY Senator. Can we stop with the stupid Rudy in drag discussions?
56 posted on 08/14/2007 11:54:17 AM PDT by jackieaxe (This one hour pre-flight security screening is brought to you by the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia)
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To: Nav_Mom

First, on the size and scope of government. Romney may cast about with a few platitudes about cutting taxes, but he has no position that differentiates itself from Hillary’s stated views on the role of government. It comes down to status quo. Hillary’s views on the role of government are not all that far outside the current state. Romney is a status quo kind of candidate. That’s why he gets the conservative moniker. From health car to welfare, Romney’s positions are all big government, he just uses different words than Hillary does.


57 posted on 08/14/2007 12:06:17 PM PDT by NCSteve (I am not arguing with you - I am telling you. -- James Whistler)
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To: George W. Bush

that is a good analysis, thanks for posting it.


58 posted on 08/14/2007 12:25:35 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: NCSteve
With all due respect, you are still being very vague...
Can you name specifically what Hillary & Romney agree on?
The war? Abortion? Gay Marriage? Immigration? Border security? Taxes?
As to the alleged health care similarities, IMHO there are none. Romney's version of health care was distorted and misrepresented in the dinosaur media (go figure)
I would be more apt to here your opposition to Romney if I felt you could point to actual issues. Thank you for your input.
59 posted on 08/14/2007 12:27:50 PM PDT by Nav_Mom
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To: George W. Bush

I must confess, I was delighted to see “McVain” go down in flames in Ames. Thanks for the input.


60 posted on 08/14/2007 12:29:47 PM PDT by Nav_Mom
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