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Rove: Positive or Negative for the GOP?
GOPublius ^
| 8/13/2007
| Libertas
Posted on 08/13/2007 2:54:58 PM PDT by eth3l
Roves legacy will be the subject of much debate, but this much would seem to be clear - Karl Rove was better at winning office than holding onto it. Be it the infamous, Mission Accomplished sign, the Presidents disastrous handling of the Hurricane Katrina aftermath, the failed attempt at overhauling Social Security, the suicidal illegal immigration debate, or the tone-deaf communications effort that allowed the War in Iraq to be painted as a quagmire, and a booming economy to be seen as weak, Roves forte was clearly not in governance.
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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bastard; bush; karlrove; magnificent; resign; rove
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To: Freee-dame
Funny how Dubya got re-elected after the Mission Accomplished sign, and a bunch of the other ‘errors’ this hack mentions, so he disproves his own thesis.
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:20:09 PM PDT
by
squidly
To: Freee-dame
This “article”could pass for a HS oped its so bad, lol.
To: eth3l
Do not question the Rove.
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:21:17 PM PDT
by
Jaysun
(It's outlandishly inappropriate to suggest that I'm wrong.)
To: eth3l
It is apparent how the author feels about Rove.
Katrina references, puhleez.
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:21:22 PM PDT
by
BallyBill
(Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
To: montag813; Route66
All of the Bush/Rove legacy can be summed up with this: Supreme Court 5-4 Conservative.Yes, we can be grateful for that. Unfortunately, it is at best a temporary advantage and bulwark which will be soon swept away by the incoming demographic tsunami of cultural invasion which Bush and Rove have enabled and encouraged. In terms of permanence, demographics trumps even lifetime SCOTUS appointments.
To: eth3l
He was a real good guy to have to run the show for the next election but areal bad guy to have around to look at things in the long run. We will be better off with out him and Bush. We need someone who has a l ong term view of things and works with the MSM to destroy it. One who does not bring 60 million Dem voting illegals in and then tries to make citizens out of them so we don lose a few votes in the short term in the next election. Instead we just lose allow allof the elections after 5 years and become a permanent minority. Real good Rove and Bush.
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:29:44 PM PDT
by
bilhosty
To: eth3l
He was a real good guy to have to run the show for the next election but areal bad guy to have around to look at things in the long run. We will be better off with out him and Bush. We need someone who has a l ong term view of things and works with the MSM to destroy it. One who does not bring 60 million Dem voting illegals in and then tries to make citizens out of them so we don lose a few votes in the short term in the next election. Instead we just lose allow allof the elections after 5 years and become a permanent minority. Real good Rove and Bush.
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:29:51 PM PDT
by
bilhosty
To: GoldenPup
“What about being the architect of the Republican debacle of November 06???”
The reasons we lost (Foley, Allen, Abramoff) had nothing to do with Rove.
Unless, seriously, it was his responsibility to have a Republican internal audit group whose charter would be to PROACTIVELY avoid such debacles.
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:31:49 PM PDT
by
Eccl 10:2
(Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
To: GoldenPup
What about being the architect of the Republican debacle of November 06???
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I thought jack abramoff was that architect
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:32:34 PM PDT
by
ari-freedom
(I am for a strong national defense, free markets and traditional moral values.)
To: eth3l
isn’t this interesting: in Hebrew, the word “Rove” means “majority”
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:35:16 PM PDT
by
ari-freedom
(I am for a strong national defense, free markets and traditional moral values.)
To: eth3l
Karl Rove was better at winning office than holding onto it. Well, winning office was Rove's job, wasn't it?
He had a hand in political decisions, but I doubt he had anything to do with FEMA. How much of a say did he have in Iraq war policy?
We know Rove had something to do with immigration and social security, but was Bush Rove's creature or Rove Bush's?
I guess that's the problem with somebody like Rove: he does a few things well, and then gets blamed for everything else, because he's the "mastermind."
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:35:43 PM PDT
by
x
To: eth3l
Definitely, Rove was a positive but I hated his “take-a-knee” approach to the end of campaigns, making the end result closer than it should have been. If the GOP had been more aggressive in the final weeks of the 2000 and 2004 campaigns, there would not have been any handwringing or talk of stolen elections.
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:37:16 PM PDT
by
Tall_Texan
(Global warming? Hell, in Texas, we just call that "summer".)
To: eth3l
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:41:49 PM PDT
by
rfp1234
(Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
To: eth3l
My brother worked for the RNC for years, including during the 2000 election, and he says Rove is an idiot. He holds him personally responsible for, as he put it, "turning what should have been a cakewalk into a Bataan death march." He said they had Gore's negatives in the stratosphere just running ads that featured quotes from his own "Earth in the Balance" book, but then Rove came in with Bush's "New Tone" BS, took over the campaign and made them yank the ads. Within six weeks, Gore pulled even with Bush in the internal polls. Then Rove announced on the weekend before the election, "It's in the bag," encouraging Republican voters and even Bush himself to stay home and put their feet up while Gore continued barnstorming and the DUI dirty trick was sprung.
Rove has always seemed to me to be praised far, far beyond his worth. Liberals only think he's an evil genius for the same reason that a snail might think a dog was a genius.
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:44:12 PM PDT
by
HHFi
To: tarheelswamprat
You are absolutely right about the “cultural invasion” and it will no doubt be a terrible blight on this administration’s legacy. Still, though we did not get everything we wanted during the last 7 seven years and though we got a lot that we did not want, I seriously doubt either Gore or Kerry would have been any more willing to stop the invasion and I am certain we were spared far worse than we would have endured under either one of them.
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:47:51 PM PDT
by
Route66
(America's Main Street - - - President Fred Dalton Thompson / POTUS 44)
To: Candor7
"Either way the Dems are royally f'd."
Hmmm....can't wait to see that happen. Bwahahah!
To: HHFi
Rove’s replacement should be Ann Coulter. Talk about driving liberals crazy. That would be the ultimate coup de gras.
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:50:25 PM PDT
by
huckfillary
(qual tyo ta)
To: eth3l
Didn’t Rove tell Tancredo never to darken his door again? Big amnesty guy, Rove.
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:54:11 PM PDT
by
RichRepublican
(Good fences make good neighbors.)
To: Eccl 10:2
>>Unless, seriously, it was his responsibility to have a Republican internal audit group whose charter would be to PROACTIVELY avoid such debacles.Not a bad idea. The Pubbies that are dishonest do us great damage when magnified by the MSM.
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posted on
08/13/2007 3:55:36 PM PDT
by
Rameumptom
(Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
To: eth3l
I love Rove because he made the ‘democratics’ sputter, fume and foam at the mouth by the mere mention of his name. I wish him all the best in whatever is next for him.
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