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Democratic Candidates Attempt to Outdo Opponents in "Gayness" in Public Gay-"Debate"
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | August 10, 2007 | John Jalsevac

Posted on 08/11/2007 9:20:39 PM PDT by monomaniac

Democratic Candidates Attempt to Outdo Opponents in "Gayness" in Public Gay-"Debate"

By John Jalsevac

August 10, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Last night's falsely advertised gay "debate," broadcast on LOGO, was an opportunity to answer the question about the various Democratic presidential hopefuls: "Who is the gayest of them all?" The day after the event, however, and the question appears to have no real answer, since all of the candidates that accepted the invitation to participate in the all-gay-issue forum seemed intent on outdoing each other in toeing the line of total homosexual orthodoxy, with the minor exception of the gay doctrine of same-sex "marriage".

Last night six of the major Democratic presidential hopefuls each appeared before a panel of well-known pro-homosexual inquisitors, who grilled the candidates on their support for the various tenets of the gay agenda.

As Matt Barber, the Policy Director for Cultural Issues at Concerned Women for America pointed out today, there were few surprises.

"All of the candidates expressed their support for the homosexual lobby's fundamental legislative wish," observed Barber. "Each endorsed the repeal of Bill Clinton's 'don't ask, don't tell' policy, which would allow open homosexuals in the military. Each supported granting homosexuals and cross-dressers specially protected minority status relative to employment…and each backed some form of legal marital recognition ('civil unions') for homosexual relationships."

However, there were some tense moments during last night's forum, when certain candidates refused to explicitly support one or another aspect of the complete pro-gay agenda. In what is being called one of the more "shocking" moments of the evening - or, as PinkNews referred to it, a "jaw-dropping" moment - New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson made the mistake of answering a question about whether homosexuality is a choice or an inborn condition, by saying, quite firmly, "It's a choice."

Richardson, however, quickly realized his mistake after the studio audience began mumbling their disapproval. As the pro-gay news source PinkNews observed in their analysis of the Democratic gay-forum, questioner singer Melissa Etheridge attempted to steer Richardson towards the "right" answer. "With her gestures, facial expressions, and laughter, Etheridge was essentially guiding Richardson to the right answer, but still Richardson could not see it," wrote PinkNews analyst Lisa Keen.

"I don't think you understand the question," said Etheridge helpfully after Richardson gave his heretical answer. "Do you think a homosexual is born that way, or do you think around seventh grade we think, 'Oooo, I wanna be gay?"

An evidently flustered Richardson, however, didn't take the hint, and instead fumbled around for several minutes, finally pointing out that this particular matter was an issue for scientists, and not for him. "You know, I'm not a scientist," he said.

Following the debate, however, Richardson's campaign quickly corrected his mistake and issued a statement on his behalf saying, "Let me be clear - I do not believe that sexual orientation or gender identity happen by choice. But I'm not a scientist, and the point I was trying to make is that no matter how it happens, we are all equal and should be treated that way under the law."

Only two of the six candidates, however - former Alaska Sen. Mike Gravel and Rep. Denis Kucinich of Ohio - said that they were willing to endorse homosexual "marriage". The remaining candidates stuck by their support for so-called same-sex "civil unions," that would afford homosexual couples all the rights and privileges of marriage, except under a different name.

The panel of inquisitors, however, expressed their dissatisfaction with the candidates for not endorsing same-sex "marriage."

"It seems like religion owns the word marriage" said the forum moderator, columnist Margaret Carlson, to Barack Obama at one point after he demurred from advocating for same-sex "marriage." "You're letting religion have marriage and then civilly you get civil unions."

Hillary Clinton was also pressured by the panel to explain why she is opposed to same-sex "marriage." While Clinton maintained her position, indicating that she personally supported "full equality" in the form of "civil unions", she also said she supported the pro-homosexual movement in their efforts to obtain same-sex "marriage."

The pro-homosexual movement is doing, "exactly what you need to do," said Clinton about their efforts to legalize homosexual "marriage." She added vaguely, "But this has not been a long-term struggle yet."

While little was learned from last night's exercise, Matt Barber of CWA summed up the true significance the event, saying "The fact that this debate even took place is a sad commentary of the moral state of our union. It's shameful that our nation's moral standards have nose-dived to the point that it's now considered good and 'tolerant' to hold a debate organized entirely around the promotion of sexual morality."

"What's next?" he asked. "Are presidential candidates going to be asked to participate in a debate on how to garner widespread acceptance of adultery or incest?"

A glaring void in last night's forum, concluded Barber, was a discussion on some of the facts that have come to light recently about the serious dangers of the homosexual lifestyle, dangers documented by the US Government's Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

The CDC, points out Barber, "recently revealed that 71 percent of all males living with deadly HIV/AIDS were infected with the disease through homosexual behaviors. That's up 11 percent from 2001. Furthermore, the CDC has determined that homosexuals - especially males - are by far at greatest risk for nearly all forms of sexually transmitted disease as well as other lifestyle related injuries. This, in spite of - if not due to - so-called 'comprehensive,' condom-based 'safe-sex' education."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; adamandsteve; barackobama; billrichardson; civilunions; clinton; demdebates; democrats; deniskucinich; elections; gayvote; hillaryclinton; hiv; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; licketysplit; marriage; mikegravel; military; protectedminority; richardson; samesexmarriage; sodomandgommorah
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1 posted on 08/11/2007 9:20:42 PM PDT by monomaniac
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To: monomaniac

Having a desire to get someone else’s fecal matter on your penis is a health issue and probably psychological issue - not a political issue


2 posted on 08/11/2007 9:24:03 PM PDT by Wil H (So just what IS the Globe's optimum temperature?)
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To: monomaniac

you can’t really blame the democrats for being this dumb. They didn’t have a choice!


3 posted on 08/11/2007 9:25:10 PM PDT by ari-freedom (I am for a strong national defense, free markets and traditional moral values.)
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To: monomaniac
"Do you think a Democrat is born that way, or do you think around seventh grade we think, 'Oooo, I wanna be communist?"
4 posted on 08/11/2007 9:30:39 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: monomaniac
"It seems like religion owns the word marriage" said the forum moderator, columnist Margaret Carlson.

Well, she got that one right.

5 posted on 08/11/2007 9:35:49 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: monomaniac
What a waste of time that Dummy debate was. At least Bill Richardson made a Freudian slip, but didn't have the guts to explain his position.

The fact is that there is much scientific consensus that lesbianism most frequently develops in a female after a dysfunctional relationship with an important man in her life. The large majority of lesbians have had significant relationships with males that were unsatisfactory. So lesbianism, contrary to what Melissa Etheridge wants us to believe, is usually not a "seventh grade" propensity determined by brain chemistry.

Lesbianism and male homosexuality are not mirror images of each other, despite the fact that the left and its media lackeys almost always lump the two together. Another important point often neglected: Lesbian relationships have no association with an increased risk of AIDS, compared to the massively increased risk in male homosexuals. And lesbianism is perhaps one tenth as common as male homosexuality.

6 posted on 08/11/2007 9:50:18 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93
And lesbianism is perhaps one tenth as common as male homosexuality.

Not in Massachustts. Here you got your numbers backwards.

7 posted on 08/11/2007 9:56:57 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: justiceseeker93
I have no idea why folks become homosexual, or when. I only know that the practice flies in the face of hygiene, and so logic. That said, why gimmmicrates would pander to this group of people on Monday, and blacks folks on Tuesday says something disturbing. It has been my experience that blacks are very conservative, at least in social matters. To be fair, the gimmicrats will pander to factory workers on Wednesday, boasting about their family values. Perhaps it is beyond the American electorate to see the sham.
8 posted on 08/11/2007 10:04:43 PM PDT by ashtanga
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To: monomaniac
Homosexuality is a hazardous lifestyle. Liberals won't call attention to it because gays are just another victim group to exploit and to climb over in the quest for power.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

9 posted on 08/11/2007 10:08:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: monomaniac

A person is born gay,and cant be changed......But a pedophile can be rehabilitated?Now with the whole evolution thing like the libs say,would the”gay” gene die out from lack of reproducing??? Looking more like choice...


10 posted on 08/11/2007 10:08:41 PM PDT by sayter_74
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To: monomaniac

Republicans were also invited to this “debate”, they all declined. I wish just one of them, any one, had accepted and told them they were all a bunch of perverts.

Sure, he would have been hooted off the stage but that would make him a hero in my book.


11 posted on 08/11/2007 10:09:17 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: monomaniac

In the liberal psychosis of self destruction, they promote homosexuality in white middle-class society but they have to resort to to hard-selling abortion to the poor non-whites. Seems ironic that the religious and conservatives will survive. Like I said, it’s liberal self destruction psychosis.


12 posted on 08/11/2007 10:31:38 PM PDT by generalhammond (PC: liberal mind control and intimidation substituting for rational argument)
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To: ashtanga

You have a point there. On Monday, the gimmiecrats are the gayest politicians ever. On Tuesday, white, middle-aged gimmiecrats proclaim, “Brother, I am one of YOU PEOPLE!” On Wednesday, these billionaires are of course in perfect solidarity with factory workers. Thursday — I don’t know, illegal alien day? Convicted felon day? Friday — time to idenitfy with the Muslims who are fighting the evil Zionists. Saturday — they they say they are either Jewish or always wanted to be Jewish. Sunday, it gets complicated. They claim to respect Jesus as someone who was possibly an historical figure and they admire his sayings, except of course the dogmatic sayings, and what a pity it is that Christian dogmatism gets in the way of the true teachings of Jesus, whatever those teachings are, and the main thing anyway is to help the poor, celebrate the transgendered, protect the environment, abortion on demand...


13 posted on 08/11/2007 11:03:59 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: generalhammond
they promote homosexuality in white middle-class society but they have to resort to to hard-selling abortion to the poor non-whites.

In my city, there are two abortion clinics less than a quarter mile apart in the rough, inner-city. They are both located on Martin Luther King boulevard. My anecdotal evidence would certainly seem to support you.

14 posted on 08/11/2007 11:24:19 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: justiceseeker93
And lesbianism is perhaps one tenth as common as male homosexuality.

And like we all learned in countless women's prison movies, lesbianism is 10,000% hotter! :)

15 posted on 08/11/2007 11:45:12 PM PDT by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: Triggerhippie
Mainstream men's porn features hot lesbians. In real life, the women are not so glamorous.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

16 posted on 08/11/2007 11:47:20 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Mainstream men's porn features hot lesbians. In real life, the women are not so glamorous.

I have NO idea what you are talking about! LOL!

17 posted on 08/12/2007 12:05:49 AM PDT by Triggerhippie (Always use a silencer in a crowd. Loud noises offend people.)
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To: Triggerhippie
LMAO!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

18 posted on 08/12/2007 12:18:23 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: monomaniac
The democrats will live to regret this in the general election next year. How did 1% of the population become so powerful that they can get Hillary, Obama and Edwards, etc., to slit their own throats on cue, politically-speaking?
19 posted on 08/12/2007 3:21:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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How did 1% of the population become so powerful...

One third of the population are "yellow dog" democrats (i.e., would vote for a "yellow dog" if it were running on the Democrat ticket). About one third are the equivalent Republicans. The remain one third tends to split very evenly.

Consequently, a few percent of the population (those with no loyalty to either party except for getting one or the other to support an agenda) can control an election. Politicians who only interested in power versus a principled position pander to these segments of the population.

Ergo, you have the situation you are bemoaning. Such will be the case until that center group that swings from one party to the other can be made to conduct such "swings" one the basis of principle instead of media influence and demagoguery.
20 posted on 08/12/2007 4:55:22 AM PDT by Lucky Dog
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