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New Scandal Erupts over NOAA Climate Data
Daily Tech ^ | August 7, 2007 1:07 PM | Michael Asher

Posted on 08/11/2007 1:27:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Weather station data hidden from public; scientists allege government cover-up


Roger Pielke (right) claims NCDC removed weather station data to dodge public scrutiny. (Source: University of Colorado)

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The theory of global warming began to explain one simple set of factsm-- surface temperature monitoring stations have shown a roughly one degree rise over the past century. But just where does these temperature readings come from? Most are reported by volunteer stations, usually no more than a thermometer inside a small wooden hut or below a roof overhang. In the US, 1,221 such stations exist, all administered by the National Climatic Data Center, a branch of the NOAA.

Two months ago, I reported on an effort to validate this network. A volunteer group headed by meteorologist Anthony Watts had found serious problems. Not only did sites fail to meet the NCDC's  requirements, but encroaching development had put many in ridiculously unsuitable locations -- on hot black asphalt, next to trash burn barrels, beside heat exhaust vents, even attached to hot chimneys and above outdoor grills.

Soon thereafter, a Seattle radio station interviewed the head of the NCDC, Dr. Thomas Peterson, informed him of the effort and quizzed him about the problems. Three days later, the NCDC removed all website access to station site locations, citing "privacy concerns." Without this data (which had been public for years), the validation effort was blocked. No more stations could be located.

Scientists were quick to respond. Climatologist Roger Pielke from the University of Colorado called the act a "coverup" and said it was designed to prevent public scrutiny. More shockingly, he revealed that researchers had been for years pressuring the government to validate the network themselves, and that the NCDC had begun to do j so, but cancelled the project and refused to make the data public, presumably to avoid this sort of scandal.  Joined by Watts and others, Pielke called upon the government to recant.

The resulting furor forced the NCDC to again made site locations public. But so far, they've failed to address to root of the problem, which is the wholly unsatisfactory locations of many of their recording sites, loations which make the resulting data unreliable, and compromise a dataset upon which much of US energy and environmental policy is based.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Technical
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; fraud; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; junkscience; ncdc; noaa
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Inconvenient Truths
Convenient Omissions


21 posted on 08/11/2007 1:46:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Welcome to FR. The Virtual Boot Camp for 'infidels' in waiting)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the links!

On that subject, from this link...

Blogger Finds Y2K Bug in NASA Climate Data

...These graphs were created by NASA's Reto Ruedy and James Hansen (who shot to fame when he accused the administration of trying to censor his views on climate change). Hansen refused to provide McKintyre with the algorithm used to generate graph data, so McKintyre reverse-engineered it. The result appeared to be a Y2K bug in the handling of the raw data.

The bold is mine, BTW.

These guys ought to be hauled up on the Hill.

22 posted on 08/11/2007 1:48:11 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: gcruse
"For the life of me, I can’t figure why there aren’t a lot more libertarians."

Because most conservatives realize the stupidity of legalizing drugs and the disaster of curling up in the fetal position here at home instead of dealing with foreign affairs that affect our national security and international interests.
23 posted on 08/11/2007 1:49:02 PM PDT by jrooney (The democrats are the friend of our enemy and the enemy of our friends. Attack them, not GW!)
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To: capt. norm

You take a reading at a airport where jets are heating the surroundings with hot exhaust and paved runways are soaking up rays and you are bound to get erroneous readings. Airports are the worst locations for gathering scientific temperature data.


24 posted on 08/11/2007 1:49:11 PM PDT by Weeedley (Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ernest, that was from your link. My bad.

That Hansen has some chutzpah, eh?

25 posted on 08/11/2007 1:49:47 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: gcruse
Don’t you love paying the government to lie to you? For the life of me, I can’t figure why...

For the life of me I can't figure out why the government would go to such an extreme -- and ham-handed one at that -- over something like this. Al Gore and the GW crowd I could understand. But the federal government? Doesn't it have other, slightly more important things to deal with at this point?

26 posted on 08/11/2007 1:54:20 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

thxs, for the report. :)


27 posted on 08/11/2007 1:56:12 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (just b/c your paranoid, doesn't mean they're NOT out to get you....run, Fred, run. :^)
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To: yankeedame
For the life of me I can't figure out why the government would go to such an extreme -- and ham-handed one at that -- over something like this.

Because the nanny state knows best and the facts interfere with their agenda. So to Heck with the facts.

28 posted on 08/11/2007 1:56:49 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This has really gotten out of control, Ernest. It's beyond our abilities to prevent it.
29 posted on 08/11/2007 1:56:59 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: jrooney
And the stupidity of open borders. That's what ended my flirtation with the LP.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

30 posted on 08/11/2007 1:58:12 PM PDT by wku man (Claire Wolfe, is it time yet?)
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To: mewzilla; crazyshrink
That's OK...there is so much stuff....

From one of the links from MM :

1998 no longer the hottest year on record in USA
Here's a story of scientific investigation and discovery I'm proud to have had a small part in. ---
Anthony Watts on August 8, 2007

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Weather Station photo:

Detroit Lakes, MN surveyed by Don Kostuch - Don has single handedly done almost the entire state of Minnesota!

31 posted on 08/11/2007 2:02:03 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Granddaughters!!!)
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To: BIGLOOK
The Global Warming crowd may be loosing control...and that’s good!
32 posted on 08/11/2007 2:04:41 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Granddaughters!!!)
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To: mewzilla
That Hansen has some chutzpah, eh?

I think he may have a secret Swiss Bank Account!

33 posted on 08/11/2007 2:06:57 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Granddaughters!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Am I seeing this correctly? The temperature gauge next to exhaust from an outdoor AC unit? It would have hot air blowing all over it.


34 posted on 08/11/2007 2:08:09 PM PDT by boop (Trunk Monkey. Is there anything he can't do?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Talk about a pic being worth a thousand words.


35 posted on 08/11/2007 2:09:56 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: BIGLOOK
Thanks for that link...

for others....Neptune is warming up as well as the earth....

36 posted on 08/11/2007 2:11:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Granddaughters!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Basic References:

Lawrence Solomon's "The Deniers" (a series of articles on the view of scientists who have been labelled "Global Warming Deniers"):

Other References:


37 posted on 08/11/2007 2:14:17 PM PDT by sourcery (fRed Dawn: Wednesday, 5 November 2008!)
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To: mewzilla; boop

See The link for the full story...


38 posted on 08/11/2007 2:15:11 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Granddaughters!!!)
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To: mewzilla; boop
if its not the a/c units, what then did cause the temperature jump at that time?

And I think that caused the discovery of the Y2K problem....

39 posted on 08/11/2007 2:17:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Granddaughters!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; NormsRevenge
It's about fear mongering leading to higher taxes, Ernest. The goal is to prorate tax liability according to the vehicle owned.....then the Barbecue grill....the air conditioner, individually, from sea to shining sea.

A natural proclivity for politicians.
40 posted on 08/11/2007 2:18:33 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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