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New Scandal Erupts over NOAA Climate Data
Daily Tech ^ | August 7, 2007 1:07 PM | Michael Asher

Posted on 08/11/2007 1:27:55 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Weather station data hidden from public; scientists allege government cover-up


Roger Pielke (right) claims NCDC removed weather station data to dodge public scrutiny. (Source: University of Colorado)

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The theory of global warming began to explain one simple set of factsm-- surface temperature monitoring stations have shown a roughly one degree rise over the past century. But just where does these temperature readings come from? Most are reported by volunteer stations, usually no more than a thermometer inside a small wooden hut or below a roof overhang. In the US, 1,221 such stations exist, all administered by the National Climatic Data Center, a branch of the NOAA.

Two months ago, I reported on an effort to validate this network. A volunteer group headed by meteorologist Anthony Watts had found serious problems. Not only did sites fail to meet the NCDC's  requirements, but encroaching development had put many in ridiculously unsuitable locations -- on hot black asphalt, next to trash burn barrels, beside heat exhaust vents, even attached to hot chimneys and above outdoor grills.

Soon thereafter, a Seattle radio station interviewed the head of the NCDC, Dr. Thomas Peterson, informed him of the effort and quizzed him about the problems. Three days later, the NCDC removed all website access to station site locations, citing "privacy concerns." Without this data (which had been public for years), the validation effort was blocked. No more stations could be located.

Scientists were quick to respond. Climatologist Roger Pielke from the University of Colorado called the act a "coverup" and said it was designed to prevent public scrutiny. More shockingly, he revealed that researchers had been for years pressuring the government to validate the network themselves, and that the NCDC had begun to do j so, but cancelled the project and refused to make the data public, presumably to avoid this sort of scandal.  Joined by Watts and others, Pielke called upon the government to recant.

The resulting furor forced the NCDC to again made site locations public. But so far, they've failed to address to root of the problem, which is the wholly unsatisfactory locations of many of their recording sites, loations which make the resulting data unreliable, and compromise a dataset upon which much of US energy and environmental policy is based.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Technical
KEYWORDS: agw; climatechange; fraud; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; junkscience; ncdc; noaa
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To: Fred Nerks

That bottom picture is of a different type of site. It’s a recent site with lots of very high precision equipment - far more sophisticated and expensive than the USHCN stuff...and it’s placed right up against an air-conditioned trailer.


101 posted on 08/11/2007 11:13:47 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
From your #98:

Temperature sensor siting: The sensor should be mounted 5 feet +/- 1 foot above the ground. The ground over which the shelter [radiation] is located should be typical of the surrounding area. A level, open clearing is desirable so the thermometers are freely ventilated by air flow. Do not install the sensor on a steep slope or in a sheltered hollow unless it is typical of the area or unless data from that type of site are desired. When possible, the shelter should be no closer than four times the height of any obstruction (tree, fence, building, etc.). The sensor should be at least 100 feet from any paved or concrete surface...

it would be interesting to discover just when this particular unit was installed.

102 posted on 08/11/2007 11:35:21 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: hocndoc; sourcery; Ernest_at_the_Beach

Mark Steyn on the NASA Data
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1880029/posts


103 posted on 08/12/2007 4:40:56 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; ...

FReepmail me to get on or off


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104 posted on 08/12/2007 5:17:18 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: xcamel

When is the insufferable NASA Fraud, James Hansen going to get the Rove Frog March out of the bldg?


105 posted on 08/12/2007 5:20:43 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: iopscusa

Good One!!


106 posted on 08/12/2007 5:21:57 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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To: jrooney
Because most conservatives realize the stupidity of legalizing drugs and the disaster of curling up in the fetal position here at home instead of dealing with foreign affairs that affect our national security and international interests.

1. What did George W. say about foreign entanglements?

2. You decide what is better.

A. Some idiot dies because he injects battery acid into his veins.

B. Some poor guy dies because a militarized police force conducts a no knock raid on the wrong house.

The GOP should abandon the WOD, because it's only purpose is to transfer money from the taxpayers to it's payroll. Follow the money.

107 posted on 08/12/2007 5:25:04 AM PDT by Mark was here (Hard work never killed anyone, but why take the chance?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The government is renegade and uses disinformation to deceive all who will believe their lies, the public school children are their main victims.


108 posted on 08/12/2007 5:27:19 AM PDT by kindred (I am voting conservatives like Hunter, No vote for Rudy or other rinos.Third Party.)
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To: jrooney

Well you crystallized why I refrain from assuming the Cloak of Libertarianism.


109 posted on 08/12/2007 5:31:16 AM PDT by steveyp
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Here’s what Bush should do about this:

He should call a press conference and make a public apology for the NASA data screw-up. He should say, “although I personally didn’t erroneously list 1998 as the hottest year, I am the President, the buck stops here, and I take full responsibility.”

He should then go on to say something like, “in my defense, let me point out that, although the erroneous data is ultimately my responsibility, and thus, in a sense, my mistake, I at least didn’t compound my mistake by signing the Kyoto accords, which, as it turns out, are invalidated by the original error.”

If he did that, he would end his administration on a high note. He would be the greatest Liberal Dragon slayer since Ronald the Great himself.


110 posted on 08/12/2007 5:34:21 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: gcruse

This is just a tiny example of how we “pay the government to lie to us”.... If the 99.999% of Americans had even an inkling of what kind of lies the US Government perpetrates on it’s citizens (and has for many years), there would be blood in the streets....

But if you even begin to try to expose the truth, you get called a conspiracy nut.


111 posted on 08/12/2007 5:37:51 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: jrooney

Heck of a good answer!!!


112 posted on 08/12/2007 5:40:47 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: BIGLOOK
It's about fear mongering leading to higher taxes

It isn't about taxes at all. It is about power and control. Taxes is just one avenue to achieve this end.

113 posted on 08/12/2007 5:43:30 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: samtheman
If he did that, he would end his administration on a high note. He would be the greatest Liberal Dragon slayer since Ronald the Great himself.

But that wouldn't suit the puppet masters who pull his strings...

114 posted on 08/12/2007 5:55:41 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: jrooney

“Because most conservatives realize the stupidity of legalizing drugs and the disaster of curling up in the fetal position here at home instead of dealing with foreign affairs that affect our national security and international interests.”

Well said jr! Well said!!!

LLS


115 posted on 08/12/2007 6:18:16 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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To: GOPJ; RedStateRocker; Dementon; eraser2005; Calpernia; DTogo; Maelstrom; Yehuda; babble-on; ...
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116 posted on 08/12/2007 6:34:04 AM PDT by Uncledave
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

HOLY SMOKES!!!!

No wonder NASA first reaction was a cover up.

The cover up is a bigger scandal.

Will algore’s stock portfolio fall because of this scandal.

What do we call this?

temp gate?

NASAgate?

Goregate?

Datagate?

we need something snappy.


117 posted on 08/12/2007 6:48:27 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Robwin
GIGO

Gorebage In, Gorebage Out....

118 posted on 08/12/2007 6:59:09 AM PDT by dirtbiker (I tried to see things from the liberal point-of-view, but I couldn't get my head up my a$$...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

bookmark


119 posted on 08/12/2007 7:00:06 AM PDT by Kozak
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To: CodeToad

See post #83.


120 posted on 08/12/2007 7:45:46 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Granddaughters!!!)
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