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Bush War Adviser Says Draft Worth a Look
Breitbart ^ | August 10, 2007 | RICHARD LARDNER

Posted on 08/10/2007 4:12:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Frequent tours for U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan have stressed the all-volunteer force and made it worth considering a return to a military draft, President Bush's new war adviser said Friday. "I think it makes sense to certainly consider it," Army Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute said in an interview with National Public Radio's "All Things Considered."

"And I can tell you, this has always been an option on the table. But ultimately, this is a policy matter between meeting the demands for the nation's security by one means or another," Lute added in his first interview since he was confirmed by the Senate in June.

President Nixon abolished the draft in 1973. Restoring it, Lute said, would be a "major policy shift" and Bush has made it clear that he doesn't think it's necessary.

The repeated deployments affect not only the troops but their families, who can influence whether a service member decides to stay in the military, Lute said.

"There's both a personal dimension of this, where this kind of stress plays out across dinner tables and in living room conversations within these families," he said. "And ultimately, the health of the all- volunteer force is going to rest on those sorts of personal family decisions."

The military conducted a draft during the Civil War and both world wars and between 1948 and 1973. The Selective Service System, re- established in 1980, maintains a registry of 18-year-old men.

Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., has called for reinstating the draft as a way to end the Iraq war.

Bush picked Lute in mid-May as a deputy national security adviser with responsibility for ensuring efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan are coordinated with policymakers in Washington. Lute, an active-duty general, was chosen after several retired generals turned down the job.


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To: John Leland 1789; xzins
We have four daughters. We will not, under any circumstances, agree to their being drafted.

Tough. They can choose conscientious objector status if they like. Or sit in prison where they would undoubtedly be assigned war-effort support work.
101 posted on 08/10/2007 8:42:51 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: familyop
Is the Pentagon still refusing to release pregnancy numbers?

OK, so now it's your position that females shouldn't be drafted due to the pregnancy factor. OK.

Then why are they on our military ships at sea, and in Baghdad, and everywhere else in the military as we speak?

Do they not get pregnant when they join/enlist?

102 posted on 08/10/2007 8:44:07 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think this would be a good idea. Why would it be a bad idea?


103 posted on 08/10/2007 8:44:28 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: perseid 67

**With Hillary tying to take the reigns, a draft would be a bad idea.**

Agree with you here. What a nightmare!


104 posted on 08/10/2007 8:46:27 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I think it makes sense to certainly consider it,” Army Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute said...”

Fire this SOB, now!!!

I don’t want our courageous volunteers in bed with dopers, fags, and hippies.


105 posted on 08/10/2007 8:48:20 PM PDT by ryan71 (I refuse to label anything I post, "sarcasm".)
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Maybe we can resort to “outsourcing”?

The Romans did that in their own way as well for several reasons and we do it currently with Mexican citizens who become US citizens after or while serving in the Armed Forces.

106 posted on 08/10/2007 8:48:37 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: John Leland 1789
We have four daughters. We will not, under any circumstances, agree to their being drafted. We will also never agree to them being forced out of home life for “alternative public service” which might be mandated for conscientious objectors as a result a draft.

Hmmm...

And if they were drafted to serve in a support role, or medical role, transportation role you would not go along with this?

But you're all for everyones sons being forced to go and serve in some capacity?

107 posted on 08/10/2007 8:51:51 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
"What every your point is you're wrong. Again, the chances of females having to *physically* engage with people/criminals in law enforcement is *much* greater than would be in the military." I am speaking in general term here, not specialty crap."

"You see, in the military, you generally just shoot your opponent. There is little rolling around having a punch out in the military with the enemy. Didn't say it doesn't happen, but in law enforcement, it can happen *every night*. "

Those aren't good arguments for drafting women. And nonetheless, I didn't see any who stayed in patrol jobs for long. From the beginning or later, they all went to dispatch, animal control, other jobs, or quit.
108 posted on 08/10/2007 8:53:07 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt.)--has-been, will write Duncan Hunter in)
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To: dragnet2

You right I’m not a cop ,but I know that cops must interact with people ,not just crooks. Most of the female cops do it in such a way they tend to diffuse aggression.

Those skills come in handy in this country. When we send people to fight on the front line those skills are of little value.

The topic was originally about a draft. No one forces people to become police officers. If this country is ever forced to draft young people ,we will not be in a position where we can afford to loose.


109 posted on 08/10/2007 8:55:19 PM PDT by perseid 67
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To: yooper
“There’s a reason Charlie Rangel is supporting this, and it ain’t patriotism”

You’re right! By drafting people who don’t want to be there, discontented soldiers (traitors) will be easy for the MSM to find and exploit.

They will contaminate our courageous, dedicated armed services.

NO DRAFT! DON’T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!

110 posted on 08/10/2007 8:56:16 PM PDT by ryan71 (I refuse to label anything I post, "sarcasm".)
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To: familyop
Those aren't good arguments for drafting women.

There is nothing wrong with drafing females to serve in support roles, medical roles etc.

I didn't see any who stayed in patrol jobs for long. From the beginning or later, they all went to dispatch, animal control, other jobs, or quit.

I have no idea what you're talking about here.

111 posted on 08/10/2007 8:56:30 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

No, I don’t support women as street cops either.

The problem isn’t that they can’t deal with criminals who need shooting, because they largely can.

The problem is that they can’t deal with criminals who don’t need shooting, because they have no options between verbal command and escalation to a weapon.

(Lesbian cops with chips on their shoulders are not a great deal of fun, either.)


112 posted on 08/10/2007 8:57:48 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think the country should consider a draft where some kind of service would be necessary, but the 18+ year old American Citizen could decide which to take (including roles military and non-military).


113 posted on 08/10/2007 8:59:21 PM PDT by unspun (We are still in the end times.)
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To: unspun
BTW, women should be kept out of combat at all reasonable expense.

Period.

114 posted on 08/10/2007 9:00:12 PM PDT by unspun (We are still in the end times.)
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To: perseid 67
If this country is ever forced to draft young people ,we will not be in a position where we can afford to loose.

Yeah, like what the politicos did in Vietnam?

BTW, do you think everyone that was drafted during Vietnam served on the "front lines" as you call them?

115 posted on 08/10/2007 9:01:23 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: CGTRWK
No, I don’t support women as street cops either.

You know what? I agree with you. LOL!

The problem isn’t that they can’t deal with criminals who need shooting, because they largely can.

Ah, if you're saying they can just shoot the bad guys...Well, no they can't. There have been many cases where they probably should have, but instead got beat like a drum.

116 posted on 08/10/2007 9:04:47 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

You are stuck in a 60’s time warp.

More of our service women have died and have been wounded in the Iraq war than in any other war. You obviously don’t care about the women who serve in our military. You think their blood is cheap.

Goodbye!


117 posted on 08/10/2007 9:11:44 PM PDT by perseid 67
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To: familyop; dragnet2; perseid 67; All
FWIW/FYI/?? : My house-mate’s Son is in the 2BCT.10th.Mt.Div. and has been extended twice,,,This started before the surge,,,last Nov.,,,
The last we heard they will not rotate till the end of Nov.-
First part of Dec.,,,19.5 mo. total,,,Mahmudiyh AO,,,

From what I have read on FR,, If a bad report comes in on
the surge,they mite be extended into the spring,,,
Their first year was up on April 13-07,,,

How long is too long to keep this or any Army unit on the line ??

118 posted on 08/10/2007 9:11:50 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: unspun
BTW, women should be kept out of combat at all reasonable expense.

Females have served proudly in WWI and WWII and and other conflicts, many were very close to the action, and many lost their lives serving in medical roles etc.

Are you saying in the future they should not be subjected to any danger whatsoever?

What many here seem to be possibly forgetting, not you specifically, is that during a war, there are hundreds of support roles that need to be filled. Some very close to combat zones. Females filling these roles can greatly assist this country in it's mission.

119 posted on 08/10/2007 9:13:02 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: KantianBurke

See #29.

Your own constitution provides for Congress calling forth the militia....that is, requiring the services of the able-bodied to defend the nation.


120 posted on 08/10/2007 9:13:52 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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