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Is America turning left?
From The Economist print edition ^ | Aug 9th 2007 | The Economist editorial

Posted on 08/09/2007 5:21:50 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner

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You know this is an ignorant analysis when they think Rudy is the most likely Republican nominee. They also pay attention to generic polls. They also ignore the fact the conservatives prevented the passage of the immigration bill.

I mostly posted this to see what comments it generates.

1 posted on 08/09/2007 5:21:56 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

The Economist = Leftist rag for over 20 years.


2 posted on 08/09/2007 5:23:33 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

The Democrats are moving to the left not just on health care
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the rest of the world won’t like that because where else are they going to go for the best health care?


3 posted on 08/09/2007 5:27:03 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

“The Economist = Leftist rag for over 20 years.”

They were pretty moderate in the 80’s and at the beginning of the 90’s. Over the 90’s they have become more leftist. I would classify them as moderate-conservative fiscally and libertarian morally. Internationally, they’re more in the wussy, non-interventionist, diplomacy only mode.


4 posted on 08/09/2007 5:27:26 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Here's how to prove God's existence: ask Him to reveal Himself to you.)
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[Bush is] the most conservative president in recent history

If by "recent history" the author means since Reagan left office (18 1/2 years ago), he'd be right. But of course that time period would include only two other Presidents -- his father and Bill Clinton. Being more conservative than those two isn't exactly a trick.

5 posted on 08/09/2007 5:28:07 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

Any time you see a piece entitled, “Is [fill in the blank]?”, it’s a good bet the real meaning is “We fervently hope [fill in the blank]”.


6 posted on 08/09/2007 5:29:18 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

The Ecconomist has been getting it wrong due to their wishful thinking as to be hardly worth reading.


7 posted on 08/09/2007 5:29:31 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

The leftists always do stories about how the right is dying. Of course when the left is not doing so well, they just do stories about how the right starves children.


8 posted on 08/09/2007 5:29:43 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

I tried a trial subscription. Just canceled. I didnt expect it to be so leftist.


9 posted on 08/09/2007 5:29:54 PM PDT by Chickensoup (If it is not permitted, it is prohibited. Only the government can permit....)
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Many of [Bush's] worst errors were championed by conservative constituencies. Some of the arrogance in foreign policy stems from the armchair warriors of neoconservatism;

Only the left cares about "arrogance" in foreign policy. And that because they identify themselves more as citizens of the world than Americans. Bush has run American foreign policy in the best interest of America, and the left hates that.

As for Bush's poll numbers, and the numbers on Iraq, those are down because Bush attempted immigration reform, and because we're not winning in Iraq. But with the immigration fight over, and things looking up in Iraq, that won't last long. America is not a leftist country and will never be.

10 posted on 08/09/2007 5:30:59 PM PDT by narby
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

My ex-CPA brother-in-law (now business owner) paid for a subscription to The Economist for his son who is in college in Madistan.

He thinks The Economist is a conservative forum. I had to explain to him that he’s nuts...and then I swam in his in ground swimming pool and drank his liquor.


11 posted on 08/09/2007 5:33:29 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: Mr. Mojo

I agree; there’s nothing conservative about GW Bush. Not financial, nor intervention into unjustified foreign wars, nor border protection, nor any inkling of the pooblems faced by the average American family. It only took the preppy Bush family 12 years to wreck the party (and remarkable coaltion) that Reagan and Goldwater built.


12 posted on 08/09/2007 5:36:48 PM PDT by laconic (ence)
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A few years ago I considered subscribing to Economist. I took a couple of issues to read at Borders to read. i dropped the idea of subscription. Not for ideological reasons, though. About 40% of the magazine is a common info that could be found anywhere. Most of the rest seems to be written by people w/o particular insights or insider info and full of kitchen-table banalities.
13 posted on 08/09/2007 5:36:51 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

It isn’t that America has made some conscience ideological “choice” to move to the left, but rather that the “left” has captured the minds of the malcontents whose only concern is to secure a free life.


14 posted on 08/09/2007 5:36:51 PM PDT by Grateful One
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To: Grateful One

Conscious, excuse me!


15 posted on 08/09/2007 5:40:56 PM PDT by Grateful One
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

They also made the infamous “standard of living” chart with America WAAAAAYYYYY down on the list, and claiming we have a lower GDP than we actually do.


16 posted on 08/09/2007 5:48:02 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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You forgot the ---

alert.

17 posted on 08/09/2007 5:49:39 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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Judging by all the calls I see for "government solutions" to healthcare and education as being the most "popular issues" among Americans, I would say yes. The same can be said for social issues (gay rights, the environment).

The funny thing is, the same folks who call for more services are the same people whining about property taxes. Obviously, many of my fellow citizens can't put 2 and 2 together.

18 posted on 08/09/2007 5:52:10 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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“the ill-fated attempt to “save” the life of the brain-dead Terri Schiavo was driven by the Christian right. “

A wood-chipper is too good for this author.


19 posted on 08/09/2007 5:57:34 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Forgiven_Sinner

There’s no way to tell the true political majority of the US because only about half the population votes.


20 posted on 08/09/2007 5:58:20 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (What do fungi and Democrats have in common? Neither one have brains)
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