Posted on 08/09/2007 8:38:09 AM PDT by machogirl
Why do they hate us?
Americans have been asking this question for nearly six years now, and for six years President Bush and his accomplices have been offering the same tired response: "They hate us for our freedoms." With every passing year, that answer becomes less convincing.
Part of the problem has to do with the question itself. Who exactly are they? Are we referring to al-Qaida and its cohorts? Are we talking about Iran, Syria, and the other nation-states whose interests in the Middle East do not properly align with America's? Or perhaps we mean Hamas, Hezbollah, or the myriad religious nationalist organizations across the Muslim world that share neither the ideology nor the aspirations of global, transnational groups like al-Qaida, but that have nevertheless been dumped into the same category: them.
(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...
But in answer... they hate us because their slavish devotion to their moon-god cult with it’s lying murdering pedophile prophet has caused them to be left in the dust of the twentieth century, never mind the twenty-first. And because they have identified as the cause of this falling behind a lack of faith in allah and his false prophet, rather than seeing allah and his false prophet and his hypocritical misogynist imams and mullahs and theocrats as the source of their misery.
Thanks, I think. :)
Seriously I talked to one of 'them' the other day. One of 'them' works in the office near me. He explained to me quite clearly why 'they' (specifically 'him') hates us. Something to do with discontinuing the making of Rubik's cube and a massive growth in the number of ATMs but I didn't believe 'him'. He didn't say 'your freedoms' so I knew 'he' must be lying....
We are free to choose to STAND IN THEIR WAY and their facist goals and defend freedoms for all. That tends to make them upset. LOL
Yes!! Because if we weren't standing in their way, they'd load their ships, troop transports, and various military forms of transportation with all the weapons, men, and equipment needed to overtake and occupy these United States....oh rats. They don't have any of that do they? So exactly what are 'we' standing in the way of 'them' doing? How do 'they' plan to get enough over here to do anything more than a one-off minor (in the scheme of things) attack?
Do I Look Like I Give A F*ck..... DILLIGAF!
Clauses:
Do I Look Like I Give A Sh*t (DILLIGAS)
and
WTFO : What The F*ck Over?
Why do they hate us?
Why don’t I care..?
Exactly, which is why there never will be any peace even if the whole world *submits* to islam. Once they're done with the infidels, they'll turn on each other.
They hate us because they THINK we represent that. I'm not arguing your other points. We do put the wrong things in the forefront in the name of democracy; but they've hated Christianity for longer than we've been around and we represent Christianity and the success that can result from that.
The author fails to make the obvious inference from his own data: if the complaints of al-Queada are unfocused and all over the map, if they have no logical coherence, if they are merely intended to muster as many anti-American and anti-Western sentiments into one bundle as possible, then their purpose is clear: they are tools of propaganda, aimed at undermining the resistance of the West, by getting Western liberals, such as the author, to think that we, the West, or George Bush, are the problem. The author can’t see the clear implications of the very data he is touting.
They don’t want their wives in lowrider jeans and becoming desperate housewives. They don’t want their daughters in tight clothes and going commando for the night, like Britney did a while back. They don’t want our music and our media polluting their culture
I can’t really blame them for hating some American lifestyles-well they hate all of them I suppose.
But they don’t have the right to kill the non-muslim world for any of their crappy beliefs, including their hatred of our culture.
Of course their problems with our culture isn’t a license to kill. But they are willing to kill over it just the same.
And that's the same reason leftists hate America, hate business, hate SUVs, hate anyone with anything that reminds them they are not the center of the universe. I haven't figured out why they don't hate the good looking yet. It's ok to be better looking than others but not smarter or richer.
Technically the term isn't hate, it's resentment that occasionally boils over into hate. And the term isn't jealous. That word involves 3 people. It's really envy, the only deadly sin that's no fun at all.
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Too bad this idiot writer isn’t smart enough to look back to the 1979 BBC Documentary of the SAME NAME for his answers...
It’s ALWAYS “Bush’s Fault” with these clowns. ALWAYS...
Hmmm. Moslems haven't been making much progress on that front, have they? In the 6-Day War, there was the old joke:
Q: How many gears does an Egyptian tank have?
A: Seven. One forward and 6 reverse.
Does the Prophet say anything about the period when Moslems are hiding behind schoolchildren and dressing like women to hide from the Jewish soldiers? The builders of the next caliphate seem to have been stuck in that mode for a while.
I did intend for it to be a compliment. I also have to admit, that I never thought of it that way before and I have taken your philosophy to heart. Thanks for the different perspective.
This is the worst thing I have seen of my life !
Worse than Speaker Pelosi sworning in Congress.
A different old article of the same title, same topic, from the right.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1099400/posts
The idea that what goes around comes around applies not only to individuals but to nations and whole civilizations. It was just a few centuries ago — not long, as history is measured — that China had the highest standard of living in the world and the Dutch were the world’s largest exporters, while North Africans were enslaving a million Europeans.
Nowhere have whole peoples seen their situation reversed more visibly or more painfully than the peoples of the Islamic world. In medieval times, Europe lagged far behind the Islamic world in science, mathematics, scholarship, and military power.
Even such ancient European thinkers as Plato and Aristotle became known to Europeans of the Middle Ages only after their writings, which had been translated into Arabic, were translated back into European languages.
Today that is all reversed. The number of books per person in Europe is more than ten times that in Africa and the Middle East. The number of books translated into Arabic over the past thousand years is about the same as the number translated into Spanish in one year.
There are only 18 computers per thousand persons in the Arab world, compared to 78 per thousand persons worldwide. Fewer than 400 industrial patents were issued to people in the Arab countries during the last two decades of the 20th century, while 15,000 industrial patents were issued to South Koreans alone.
Human beings do not always take reversals of fortune gracefully. Still less can those who were once on top quietly accept seeing others leaving them far behind economically, intellectually, and militarily.
Those in the Islamic world have for centuries been taught to regard themselves as far superior to the “infidels” of the West, while everything they see with their own eyes now tells them otherwise. Worse yet, what the whole world sees with their own eyes tells them that the Middle East has made few contributions to human advancement in our times.
Even Middle Eastern oil was largely discovered and processed by people from the West. After oil, the Middle East’s most prominent export has been terrorism.
Those who look at the world in rationalistic terms may say that the Middle East can use some of its vast oil wealth to expand its own educated classes and move back to the forefront of human achievement. They did it once, why not do it again?
All sorts of things can be done in the long run, but you have to live through the short run to get there. Moreover, even the short run, as history is measured, can be pretty long in terms of the human lifespan.
Even if the Islamic world set such goals and committed the material resources and individual efforts required, they could not expect to pull abreast of the West for generations, even if the West stood still. More realistically, it would take centuries, as it took the West centuries to catch up to them.
What will happen in the meantime? Are millions of proud human beings supposed to quietly accept inferiority for themselves and their children, and perhaps their children’s children?
Or are they more likely to listen to demagogues, whether political or religious, who tell them that their lowly place in the world is due to the evils of others — the West, the Americans, the Jews?
If the peoples of the Islamic world disregarded such demagogues, they would be the exceptions, rather than the rule, among people who lag painfully far behind others. Even in the West, there have been powerful political movements based on the notion that the rich have gotten rich by keeping others poor — and that things need to be set right “by all means necessary.”
These means seldom include concentration on self-improvement, with 19th-century Japan being one of the rare exceptions. Lashing out at others is far more immediately satisfying — and modern communications, transportation, and weaponry make it far easier to lash out destructively across great distances.
Against this background, we may want to consider the question asked by hand-wringers in the West: Why do they hate us? Maybe it is because the alternative to hating us is to hate themselves.
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