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The Final Face-Off ... ( looks like it's going to be Hillary vs. Rudy)
American Spectator ^ | 8/9/2007 | R. Emmett Tyrrell, Jr.

Posted on 08/09/2007 4:37:27 AM PDT by IrishMike

The infallible Washington Times reports that up for sale is one of the most famous scenes of infantilism in the 20th century, "Woodstock." Actually, what is on the block is the late Max Yasgur's New York farm, 38 acres of which were used for the 1969 Woodstock music festival that hagiographers for the "1960s Generation" have ever since boomed as a pivotal event in American history. Such rock singers as Jimi Hendrix and Richie Havens got together before a stupefied crowd of some 500,000 eternal children to sing of peace, and freedom, and mind-numbing substances, even the most feeble of which have now been shown to be extremely deleterious to intellect and spirit. Better it would be to inhale Marlboros than to fool with the proscribed substances that eventually killed or demented many of the singers and attendees in that famous field.

As for "peace and freedom," wars have continued and the specific war that the troubadours of Woodstock had in mind ended only when our Democratic-controlled Congress broke an American pledge to send support to embattled South Vietnamese forces. The North Vietnamese communists beat them. .... Drunk and disorderly rockers never pacified any region I know of, and many have lived irritable and belligerent lives, leaving children and other loved ones in a hell of a mess. ........... As I have been noting of late, the aging 1960s generation -- divided as it has always been by its left-wing and right-wing -- is now facing its political swan song. The Republicans and the Democrats will probably nominate members of this generation to battle in 2008 one more time. Now the face-off is on again, probably with Hillary opposing Rudy.

(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...


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To: IrishMike

Hillary; Rudy. Two New York liberals. Somehow this represents a face off between liberals and conservatives? Only in the feeble mind of this writer.


41 posted on 08/09/2007 5:48:17 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Bush is no Rudy and Rudy is no Bush. Bush is pro-life.


42 posted on 08/09/2007 5:48:28 AM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: SMARTY

But is she legal ???


43 posted on 08/09/2007 5:48:56 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: IrishMike; rintense
I could not get the full article to download. Rudy is far from locking down the nomination. I don’t like some of Rudy’s positions, in particular, I wish he was for the FairTax, but few politicians are for it. However, Rudy has leadership, and would be competent. Bush, I give credit for his philosophy, except for Immigration, but frankly, competence could be improved upon. For some reason, Romney reminds me too much of Bush. McCain is well, forget it. Thompson is still out of it, and loosing ground.
It isn’t over since the first primary is in five months, but I do think the GOP needs to be prepared to get behind whoever the nominee might be.
ALL the DEMS are frightening. I watched them on TV before the labor crowd. They have moved so far to the left that they need to all put on hammer and sickles.
44 posted on 08/09/2007 5:53:15 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,292631,00.html


45 posted on 08/09/2007 5:55:58 AM PDT by IrishMike (As America wins, the Democrats and their apologists lose.)
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To: rintense

He won’t be and I am tired of people telling me it’s going to be him or Rommny. It’s not going to be either.


46 posted on 08/09/2007 5:56:11 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: Chi-townChief

Absolutely! AND she did not get the job because she was hanging on to her ‘husband’s’ coat tails.

She knows what she is doing, doesn’t patronize anyone and from one day to the next, she has a pretty clear idea about who she is!!!


47 posted on 08/09/2007 5:58:45 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: IrishMike

Don’t think that it will be Rudy.


48 posted on 08/09/2007 6:03:19 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: IrishMike

I will vote for the Republican nominee. I will not stay home nor write in a name.

I will never, ever surrender to the democrats!!


49 posted on 08/09/2007 6:03:42 AM PDT by jch10
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To: savedbygrace

When I was in the army in 1975 cigs were $2 a carton.


50 posted on 08/09/2007 6:08:27 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: expatpat
I actually see Fred Thompson as the Republicans Howard Dean. So much hype, but little substance. He also tried to corral the internet as his primary campaign appeal. It worked for a while, yet faded when the spotlight was put upon him. The real difference is that the DNC did a lot to promote Kerry over Dean, he was that years Bob Dole if you will. It was Kerrys "time". My perception could be off, but I don't see Fred Thompson living up to the hype that the internet, grass root supporters (which I am in awe of) expect of him. He needs to do more than put out policy papers on the web in order for the primary voters to get a sense of him, and that may change once he finally gets in the race, but as of today he, personally, does not seem to have the enthusiasm needed to stay the front runner.

As an aside, it will be interesting to see if Fred Thompson would actually invest his personal money (as Kerry had to do when the end looked near) to be the nominee if that is what it takes. Only time will tell, but I just read that Iowa was looking at moving up it's caucus to before Christmas so it could retain it's first in the nation standing.

51 posted on 08/09/2007 6:22:43 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
-—”but I do think the GOP needs to be prepared to get behind whoever the nominee might be.”-—

Well here’s an idea - let’s nominate Hillary and we can’t lose!

No thanks. If “we” nominate Rudy, I’ll be working for his defeat. Better one Liberal party than two. A GOP with Rudy at the helm deserves to be atomized - just annihilated. Better to blow the thing up and start over for 2012.

Seriously, there is no point left to the GOP with Rudy at the helm, none.

52 posted on 08/09/2007 6:28:59 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: jch10

-—”I will vote for the Republican nominee. I will not stay home nor write in a name.

I will never, ever surrender to the democrats!!”-—

And I will not surrender the GOP to Rudy - never, ever! Not even if he wins the nomination and I have to put Hillary signs in my yard.


53 posted on 08/09/2007 6:30:52 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: IrishMike
"Who has shown more cleavage ...? Rudy in drag or the Hildabeast."

Shudder! Either way, uglier than a hyena with with an impacted wisdom tooth.
54 posted on 08/09/2007 7:16:07 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hunter and Tancredo in '08! La Raza - the PLO of the Western Hemisphere)
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To: normy
Rudy will prosecute the war and cut taxes, we just need a filibuster majority in Congress to stop any other BS he might try to pull.

Ya won't get it, Rudy has no coattails. All the billions of Democrat voters Rudi attracts in the blue states will still vote for Democrats into Congress.

55 posted on 08/09/2007 7:29:16 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (The Simpsons already did it!)
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To: Huck; IrishMike

Mmmm, Camels :)

When the taxes were hiked 10 yrs ago or so, I switched to “Screamin’ Eagles”. Now I buy tubes and loose tobacco. I almost was able to quit, and I’m aiming to do that. Congratulations to you on leaving a bad habit :)

As for the topic of this thread, I will vote for anyone against Hillary. Whoever is running against her gets my vote. I prefer Duncan Hunter or Tom Tancredo.


56 posted on 08/09/2007 12:46:54 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (If the families still ran Las Vegas, Harry Reid would be napping at the bottom of Hoover Dam)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Thats all true. While Guilani may get anti-Hillary votes, the RAT base will certainly be working overtime to keep the Congress in place. Putting the red states into play is important, but I see Rudy’s past personal baggage becoming a real can of worms if he is the nominee - people are going to dislike him (though perhaps not like they dislike Hillary) and that will decrease his impact in the red states.

The biggest problem with the ‘08 cycle is the lack of ideas I am seeing from both parties. If we agree that there are huge issues facing the nation, I cannot in good conscience not vote at all. That said, Rudy in the White House is very bad for social conservatives, and, moreover, any flaws that turn up in his tenure will be laid at the GOP doorstep. If you think George Bush sold us down the river, you ain’t seen nothing yet, especially if the RATs retain Congress. Rudy’s biggest pull will be his position on the war. That really leaves only a handful of realistic options -
- Nominate someone who is more conservative and hope that things swing to the right as the election gets closer. This could happen with the war, but I think the softer economy will be a big factor this time around, and the GOP will get blamed for this. I do not see Ron Paul, Duncan Hunter, or my personal favorite so far, Mike Huckebee, beating the Clinton RAT media machine. The swing vote is too volatile...
- Nominate Rudy and hope a GOP Congress can keep him in line. I am frankly not expecting this of the GOP party regardless of who has the majority; the GOP has become too focus-group and popularity driven to remain anything but DEM lite. Sad but true.
- Vote 3rd party on principle, let Hillary assume the throne, and figure that she will hamstrung by scandels by 2010 (this is very possible based on everything we already know about her dealings). Then, elect a big enough majority in the Congress to keep the country from falling apart. This is the riskiest thing to do, but may end up being the only practical solution.

The truth is, I am usually optimistic about where the nation is going, but the venom and insanity from both the political left and the judiciary activists make this a very difficult time to not think things are beyond the point of return.


57 posted on 08/09/2007 12:58:13 PM PDT by Amalie (FREEDOM had NEVER been another word for nothing left to lose...)
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To: IrishMike
Moe Howard.....?????

Technically:

"Moe Howard"
Harry Moses Horwitz
Alcove of Love-C-233
6001 Centinela Avenue
Los Angeles, CA 90045

You may know him better as:

And as we all know, being dead is no bar to being elected.

58 posted on 08/09/2007 4:23:41 PM PDT by Grut
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To: TitansAFC

Me neither.


59 posted on 08/09/2007 4:24:59 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: TheSpottedOwl

hey, i’m with you. hell, i just vote for the gop regardless. it’s a pretty brainless exercise.


60 posted on 08/09/2007 7:05:20 PM PDT by Huck (Soylent Green is People.)
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