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If the South is so socially conservative, why is Guiliani leading? (RCP Poll)
Real Clear Politics ^ | 8/8/07

Posted on 08/08/2007 10:32:04 AM PDT by teddyballgame

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To: teddyballgame

Oh for Petes sake. I thought we already know Rooty is not a conservative, he really is not even a Republican.

These polls are ridiculous at this time.

He’s the guy the “top irritators” in the GOP have chosen, and are pushing. Rooty will get smacked down.


61 posted on 08/08/2007 11:07:42 AM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: teddyballgame
If the South is so socially conservative, why is Guiliani leading? (RCP Poll)

Other polls show others leading in the South.

62 posted on 08/08/2007 11:07:45 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: mnehrling

I remember looking at those maps showing where the Blue vote came from. You are correct. The big population centers such as Los Angeles, Chicago, New york, Philadelphia, Cleveland, Detroit etc. was where Kerry got his votes and thus the entire electoral votes of those states. If you begin to analyze the demographics of those big cities, the profile of the average voter there is pretty scary. Kind of a like a “pack” mentality.


63 posted on 08/08/2007 11:08:08 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: pissant

LOL only if you dance the tarantella with me.


64 posted on 08/08/2007 11:08:34 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: tennteacher
MSM has made a point of ignoring him and thus he lacks name recognition.

I do not understand why people might think Rudy is strong on WOT. He is weak on WOT in spite of sprouting generalities. This is revealed by his statements regarding amnesty, illegal aliens, opposition to the wall, the kind of judges he has appointed, whom he recommended for Homeland Security, etc.

And Rudy appears to be afraid of Hillary. He could have greatly weakened her, possibly defeated her, in the last election if only he had run against her.

65 posted on 08/08/2007 11:08:53 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: Calpernia

After we down a couple bottles of Sangiovese, I’ll be game. ;o)


66 posted on 08/08/2007 11:10:41 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: teddyballgame

9-11. That’s what most folks think of when they think Rudy.


67 posted on 08/08/2007 11:11:09 AM PDT by saganite (Billions and billions and billions----and that's just the NASA budget!)
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To: padre35

Missouri is a “Southern State”?

News to me!


68 posted on 08/08/2007 11:11:33 AM PDT by MacDorcha (We have been at war with this mindset since before the Socratic method was borne.)
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To: 1035rep

-—”I think Hillary is afraid of Rudy because he could win CA.”-—

Dude, seriously — stop smoking so much crack.


69 posted on 08/08/2007 11:12:47 AM PDT by TitansAFC ("My 80% enemy is not my 20% friend" -- Common Sense)
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To: teddyballgame
They’ve never heard of most of the candidates. The average voter doesn’t really know politics. When it comes down to the primary elections, and the names are known, along with their issues on life.... Rudy will be trounced. Even McCain can beat Rudy in the south.
70 posted on 08/08/2007 11:13:50 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: TitansAFC

I will if you quit drinking the bong water.


71 posted on 08/08/2007 11:15:21 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: mnehrling

I will give you that, but when all debates are put on by the left, they have an agenda. That agenda is propping up those they think will lose in the general election. Even some on the right prop up the top three. In my opinion Duncan Hunter, given the proper coverage, would be in the top position.


72 posted on 08/08/2007 11:18:42 AM PDT by Bruinator
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To: Preachin'

“They’ve never heard of most of the candidates. The average voter doesn’t really know politics. When it comes down to the primary elections, and the names are known, along with their issues on life.... Rudy will be trounced. Even McCain can beat Rudy in the south.”

If that’s the case then you just dismiss every poll, which I don’t think you can. People are saying who they support, and they are supporting Guiliani in the South.

From these posts I summize that the WOT trumps social issues, and name recognition carries a long ways.


73 posted on 08/08/2007 11:22:26 AM PDT by teddyballgame (red man in a blue state)
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To: PEACE ENFORCER

I don’t much care what his father did. Some criminals have honest children. What I do care about is Rudy’s own pro-death and anti-family positions. They rule him out of consideration for the Presidency.


74 posted on 08/08/2007 11:25:11 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: Dante3

Rudy is just Bob Dole with a bad hairline and better dating life.


75 posted on 08/08/2007 11:27:11 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: pissant
Politics is complex. Rudy has shown good leadership despite his liberal opinions on social issues. I will support him to defeat Hildebeast, if he is the nominee. Also, Romney is not impressive, Thompson is not burning up the woods. Hunter is almost perfect, but is probably not ripe for election.
76 posted on 08/08/2007 11:27:15 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: MacDorcha

For whatever reason, pundits count Missouri as a Southern state, sort of like KY, I think the way the map is drawn is Missouri to West Virginia to Florida to Texas with Maryland disappearing from the fmr “Southern” column.

Gene flippin Carnahan won in MO, the woman is dumb a as rock, and an anti 2nd amendment type as well, yet she won.


77 posted on 08/08/2007 11:28:50 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: teddyballgame

Because people are looking for strong leadership above all other things.


78 posted on 08/08/2007 11:29:03 AM PDT by Scarchin (+)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
>>>>Rudy has shown good leadership despite his liberal opinions on social issues.

ROFL!!! Ha, aha, ha, ha, ha, ::snorts::, ha, ha, ha, ha, ::gasps::, Ha, aha, ha, ha, ha, ::snorts::, ha, ha, ha, ha, ::gasps::,Ha, aha, ha, ha, ha, ::snorts::, ha, ha, ha, ha, ::gasps::,Ha, aha, ha, ha, ha, ::snorts::, ha, ha, ha, ha, ::gasps::,Ha, aha, ha, ha, ha, ::snorts::, ha, ha, ha, ha, ::gasps::

Wow, that is funny.

79 posted on 08/08/2007 11:30:22 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: padre35

Missouri is an interseting State. If you toss out St Louis, it is pretty conservative and fairly reflective of Southern philosophy. Once again, you have a big population urban city (St Louis) which often times tilts the State in the Democrats direction. By the way, St Louis has a reputation of frauulent and crooked elections right behind New orleans and Chicago.


80 posted on 08/08/2007 11:32:27 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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