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The asterisk just doesn't apply (THE 2ND MOST CONTROVERSIAL HOME RUN IN BASEBALL HISTORY)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | August 8, 2007 | CHRIS DE LUCA

Posted on 08/08/2007 4:58:54 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

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To: Badeye
This is what happens when you appoint a used car salesman MLB Commissioner.

Hell, if they had just picked a "disinterested" used car salesman off the streets, they would have been better off. Selig was and is a team owner and as such he has no business being commissioner. I thought it was BS back when he was named "acting" commissioner and MLB made no effort to look for a new commissioner. Then one day, the term "acting" just disappeared, Selig is like one of these third world dictators who puts off elections for thirty years because it isn't "safe" yet.

101 posted on 08/08/2007 6:55:48 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: gridlock

I just don’t care, anymore.

Same here.


102 posted on 08/08/2007 6:56:08 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Never mind that many of his home runs were hit off of steroid-fueled pitchers.

You're not allowed to point that out. Or..

The fact is much of Bonds' work from 1999 to 2004 -- during a time many of us believe he was juiced -- can't be touched by an asterisk. Baseball had no policy against steroids during this time. You can't break a rule that wasn't there.

Bonds is for some reason held to a different standard. I for one congratulate him on his accomplishment and frankly think that video recording by Aaron was a slap in the face. No one from the Aaron family was there like the Maris family was for McGuire and Selig couldn't slink in either.

103 posted on 08/08/2007 6:57:53 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Chi-townChief

‘Aaron = great ballplayer but pretty much an ass-wipe in his own right.’

True enough, I recall his bitching about not being the ‘player of the decade’ in the 1970’s.

Then again, he was discriminated against for the first decade of his career, and that would make me a tad bitter as well.


104 posted on 08/08/2007 6:58:22 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: pjsbro; stillwaiting
Any way you slice it, Bonds is the HR king.

If you compare Bonds HR production in his first five MLB careers (when he wasn’t juiced) to Aaron’s first five years, Bonds has more HR’s per at-bat.

Let me get this straight, on the one hand you say that Bond is the HR king, while on the other you acknowledge that overwhelming probability that he cheated?

105 posted on 08/08/2007 6:58:22 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Chi-townChief

“If Selig tries to wipe away Bonds’ accomplishments, then he’d better go after Mark McGwire and all of the other oversized stars of the Steroid Era.”

Works for me.


106 posted on 08/08/2007 6:58:42 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: wagglebee

Full agreement.


107 posted on 08/08/2007 6:58:51 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: sono
And to think Joe Jackson is still not in Cooperstown.

"Is She Really Going Out With Him" is a great song and all that, but I don't think that warrants him getting into Cooperstown? ;)

108 posted on 08/08/2007 6:59:08 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Badeye; Chi-townChief

There is one big similarity between Aaron and Bonds, neither of them really helped their teams. The Giants have gone out of their way to help get Bonds get the record and they have done this at the expense of the rest of the team and that is why they have one of the worst records in baseball.


109 posted on 08/08/2007 7:01:03 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Chi-townChief
The all-time hits leader: Pete Rose, who has been banned by baseball and who was convicted of tax evasion, serving a prison term in Downstate Marion. There isn't a single asterisk next to any of his records -- and Rose committed the game's biggest sin, gambling on baseball.

This writer is an idiot. Of course there is no asterisk next to Pete's record—the number of hits he had was not unfairly improved by his gambling habit. Pete's gambling was an ill-advised attempt to make more money, not to cheat his way to a hits record.

110 posted on 08/08/2007 7:02:24 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: gridlock
"The sad thing is, that if Bonds had just stayed clean and played the game, he might have gotten there on his merits."

I agree 100%. Bonds might have been one of the greatest players in the history of the game without the drugs.

111 posted on 08/08/2007 7:02:32 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Cindy Sheehan for Congress! Because...well...just because!)
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To: PzLdr
‘96 playoffs. Yanks/Orioles. The homer that wasn’t.

I actually remember that one! Wow, that was a long time ago. 11 years...

112 posted on 08/08/2007 7:03:05 AM PDT by tlj18 (Keep your eye on China....)
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To: Just another Joe
Say what you will about the performance enhancing drugs, it still takes skill and an eye to hit a 95 MPH fastball or make the change to blast a change up.

That's right. The performance enhancing drugs are merely the difference between a pop-fly and a home run. Bonds is the asterisk king.

113 posted on 08/08/2007 7:04:44 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: Chi-townChief

And what is with the gloating tone of this schmuck’s article? Is he Barry Bonds’ best friend?


114 posted on 08/08/2007 7:05:42 AM PDT by Junior_G
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To: wagglebee
...they have done this at the expense of the rest of the team and that is why they have one of the worst records in baseball.

That's fine by me.

115 posted on 08/08/2007 7:06:32 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: wagglebee

And Bonds, like A-Rod, is clubhouse poison, and the reason why most likely neither will ever get a World Series ring.


116 posted on 08/08/2007 7:06:43 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Chuck54

Just to let you know, from those of us in Peoria, we don’t buy it either!


117 posted on 08/08/2007 7:07:52 AM PDT by ushr435
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To: Badeye
Contrats, Mr Selig, Congrats Mr Bonds. You killed the game I loved as a kid as surely as an eskimo kills a baby seal, just not as cleanly.

My 18 year old son, who used to love baseball, won't even watch a game anymore (except for the little league world series). He equates baseball with professional wrestling....

118 posted on 08/08/2007 7:09:12 AM PDT by Neverforget01
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To: batter
Batter up
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119 posted on 08/08/2007 7:09:16 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: dfwgator

Bonds will certainly never get a World Series ring, but A-Rod probably will especially if he stays with the Yankees (whether you like the Yankees or hate them, you know their due for another one in the next few years).


120 posted on 08/08/2007 7:10:25 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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