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LIBERTY LOST - Cause & Effect
ROAR (Restoring Our American Republic) ^ | August 5, 2007 | By Sterling H. Saunders

Posted on 08/05/2007 7:51:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

We believe the federal government has grown too big, too expensive, too intrusive, too nosy, too abusive and.. . .well, just about everything it was not supposed to be.

What are we talking about when we say that? It's not Congress. Nor is it the Presidents, but between the two, they have created and fostered an Imperial Bureaucracy, a virtually independent, ever growing government that is answerable to no one, staffed by unelected bureaucrats who write rules and regulations that have the force of law and lord it over us as if they were our Imperial Masters.

How big is the bureaucracy? Not counting Congress, the White House, the State Department, the CIA or the Military in uniform, there is 1 fulltime civilian federal employee for every 123 Americans. Surprised? Is that too big?.

Congress has been on a Legislative binge for more than 60 years. To enforce those laws, at the direction of Congress, the bureaucrats write regulations. At the end of 2006, there were 144,040 pages in the Code of Federal Regulations. In that almost undecipherable mass there has to be one, two or a dozen that can jump up and bite any one of us at any moment. When it happens, they have the full force of government behind them while all we can do is go broke paying attorneys.

For instance: The BATF (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms) is systematically, one by one, revoking gun dealers' licenses on paperwork technicalities. Someone overlooked and therefore did not fill in one space in a form. BOOM! "Your license has been revoked." The small ones who could not afford thousands of dollars in Attorney's fees, simply went out of business. Twenty years ago, there were 250,000 licensed gun dealers in this nation. Today, there are only 108,000. That works out to be 19 a day that have just disappeared. And, of course, the number of gun dealers "not complying with regulations" is used by BATF to justify and expand it's budget.

How much are these regulations costing us? According to a recent study released by the Office of Advocacy of the U.S. Small Business Administration, in 2004, the nation's business community, mostly small businesses, spent $1.1 trillion complying with Federal Regulations. Who pays that? We do. It's a cost of doing business and is a part of the price of everything we purchase. How much is $1.1 trillion? Assuming a population of 300 million, it's $3,667 for every man woman and child in the country. And you thought all those regulations didn't affect you. Right?

All Congress has to do to change all this is snatch the bureaucrats up by the knap of the neck, let them know the Rules Committee has arrived and rewrite the enabling legislation in specific terms, precisely narrowing and defining the scope of their authority and how they will conduct themselves. But it's too busy playing a vicious, high stakes game of political "Gotcha" while enacting even more legislation that directs the bureaucrats to write even more regulations. And virtually every new regulation take a bite out of someone's liberty.

The list of abuses and abusive attitude could go on to near infinity, but the real question is, "How did it get this way?" The Founding Fathers put together a government meticulously designed to prevent what we have. What happened?

What happened was the standard ingredients of politics, greed and corruption. Late in the 19th Century, the Power Brokers and Robber Barons saw the federal government as a cow that could be milked for power, prestige and cash, but the Senators, who took their marching orders from their respective Legislatures kept blocking them. After a number of years of manipulation, apparent bribery and really dirty politics, we got the 17th Amendment which took the power of appointment away from the State Legislatures and moved it over to general election.

The result was predictable and inevitable. When the Senators were dependent on the Legislatures for reelection, the individual legislators and the Legislature as a whole, had enormous clout. When your reelection depends on only 80, 90, 100 people, you pay very close attention to what they want. When it was shifted over to the entire population of the State, the electing units were so large no one at home had any clout. This is exactly what the manipulators wanted, because the Senator's attention and loyalties switched to those who could help assure reelection, the Power Brokers. And that's where they still are today.

We were supposed to have a Senate made up of Statesmen who would be immune to public opinion and popular causes, vigilant guardians of our individual rights and liberty. Instead, we have a Senate composed of 100 free agents, free to follow their own agenda, which they do with impunity and immunity; answerable only to their political party, special interests, the mainstream media and their campaign contributors; responding with legislation to every popular cause that comes along, often inventing one just to get face time on TV; perfectly willing to eradicate everyone's rights simply because a few might or have abused them and have turned the United States Senate into an arena for an ongoing, seemingly never ending political food fight. It's disgusting and we deserve better.

The answer, the solution, is to repeal the 17th amendment so we have at-home control over what they do or do not do and we can get that done if we put our mind and resources to the effort. Put the appointment of Senators back where it belongs, with the Legislatures and that's exactly what we're going to do..

"Whaat," you wail, "you want to take away my right to vote for Senators." If putting it back where it belongs, with the State Legislatures, means taking it away from you, Yes, we do. We're taking away ours too, so you haven't been singled out. But be realistic. That vote is only symbolic. It is meaningless, simply because the only time a person has power in the ballot box is when he can exercise some control over the actions of his "servants" and the only way to have control is to be able to talk to them directly, not just to their staff. Can you call your Senator and get him on the Phone? The Party Bosses can. Milton Megabucks can. The media can. The lobbyists can. But you can't. Face it. We're just a mass of nameless faces in the crowd they have to shmooze every six years just enough to persuade us to keep them in office.

So, the choice is yours. You can hang on to your symbolic vote, or you can take positive steps to help change it. Millions of men have put themselves in harm's way to preserve our freedom with their blood staining the world's battlefields. We have not served them well by allowing this to happen. It's time to make amends and giving up your symbolic vote is a small price to pay compared to what they sacrificed.

We have a solid, three step plan to get it done. It's been hailed as "Brilliant," "Outstanding" with an 80% to 90% probability of success by some pretty savvy people who have been trying for years to get Congress to exercise some self restraint, trying to make them understand that they have been granted responsibility rather than power.

Constitutional historians rate the 17th Amendment as the biggest mistake we have ever made. Our success will be hailed by future historians as the greatest advance of liberty in the 21st Century.

Individual liberty and smaller government are our objectives, but it goes beyond that. We have wounded men and women languishing in miserable conditions in VA Hospitals and there are 1,252,188 members of Disabled American Veterans who are not receiving adequate care, partly because of the bloated, inefficient, dollar consuming bureaucracy but primarily because Congress has proven itself to be the world's most profligate spendthrift to the point where there's no money "left over" to take care of them properly. When we can cut the bureaucracy down to size and get some control over the Senate we will be able to provide some better care for these wounded warriors. We owe it to them and they have earned it.

If you want to be a part of it, contact us at the Email address below or at http://hometown.aol.com/repealthe17th/ROAR.html

ROAR (Restoring Our American Republic, Inc) 2975 Elizabeth Lane Snellville, GA 30078 Voice: 770-978-1913 FAX: 770-978-1064 RepealThe17th@aol.com http://hometown.aol.com/repealthe17th/ROAR.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 17thamendment; constitution; repealthe17th
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1 posted on 08/05/2007 7:51:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Save.


2 posted on 08/05/2007 7:57:13 PM PDT by Eagles6
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To: Jim Robinson

..an interesting idea - but what makes us certain that such a move would make the senate more (not less) responsive to the public will? What happens if it just turns them into more dedicated liberals/globalists?


3 posted on 08/05/2007 7:58:56 PM PDT by Old_Mil (Fred Thompson isn't the second coming of Reagan; He's the second coming of Dole.)
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To: editor-surveyor; Paul Ross; stephenjohnbanker; Czar

ping & bump


4 posted on 08/05/2007 8:03:58 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share.")
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To: Jim Robinson

We need more than that. We need a voters’ bill of rights starting with runoff elections to guarantee minimally that nobody need ever fear to vote his first choice at least on a first ballot, and nobody ever holds any elective office with less than 50% of the vote. We need absolute ironclad guarantees against voter fraud which to me says there has to ultimately be a way to connect a name to every vote ever cast, and we need a none-of-above option on every election in the land. And, if that none-of-above option ever wins, the other candidates should be barred for life from running for any public office, and the parties sponsoring them should be barred for 20 years from running candidates for that particular office. The penalty for running dead wood for public office should be huge.


5 posted on 08/05/2007 8:06:07 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: Jim Robinson

Wow this blows my mind. There’s some heavy stuff being brought up here.On the one hand do we let government “State Legislatures” choose more government “US Senate” or do we decide for ourselves who represents us? It’s not an easy question to get a handle on !!!


6 posted on 08/05/2007 8:08:04 PM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, you have hit the mail squarely on the head! Somewhere in the past couple of years I came to the same realization....


7 posted on 08/05/2007 8:09:52 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Jim Robinson

When I Firefox/Googled the web site it came up as a bad address.

The 17th Amendment debacle is, indeed, a major source of our present political disaster. Add in the infamous “Executive Order”, pioneered by TR and you have a situation which the FR community, and lots of others, will be busy trying to correct for quite a while.


8 posted on 08/05/2007 8:13:47 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim is absolutely right. We also need term limits, and limits on the power of the unelected Congressional staffers who actually write the bills and provide the members with vital information which governs how they vote.

Staffers have way too much power.

9 posted on 08/05/2007 8:14:25 PM PDT by Liberty Wins (Not only does Fred Thompson cut taxes, he cuts tax collectors.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree with the facts here, and the goals, but wonder how it would work out in some states.

In my state, the dems manage to cover up all their scandals.

Independent news agencies get squashed very quickly.

Election fraud, FBI investigations of legislators, and endless dirty politics are kept out of the papers, or spun into Republican witch hunts. Votes are ignored when they don’t like the outcome, and all kinds of ingenious rules are discovered to make undesirable votes go away. There is alot of corruption.

I don’t trust the dem machine here with choosing senators. I am not saying the 17th amendment shouldn’t be revoked, but I do see my senators occasionally now. I can’t imagine all the backroom deals that might go on here as they negotiate who to send to DC.


10 posted on 08/05/2007 8:14:31 PM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue-it is the business of all humanity.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I have been saying for years that the 17th Amendment was when and where it all started going to hell in a hand basket.


11 posted on 08/05/2007 8:18:55 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Jim Robinson

This is the first I’ve heard of ROAR, how long have they been around?


12 posted on 08/05/2007 8:20:07 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Jim Robinson

RepealThe17th@aol.com http://hometown.aol.com/repealthe17th/ROAR.html


13 posted on 08/05/2007 8:21:56 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: Jim Robinson

I keep saying its not gun control or abortion or even illegals that are the top issues, its the tyranty of our own government.

Until we get rid of the tyranty nothing else really matters in the long run.

John


14 posted on 08/05/2007 8:23:57 PM PDT by Diggity
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To: Jim Robinson

Excellent. This state is hopelessly blue, but there’s hope for others.


15 posted on 08/05/2007 8:26:24 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ( “A nation without borders is not a nation.” —Ronald Reagan)
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, after announcing his retirement, Senator Zell Miller introduced a constitutional amendment (S.J. Res. 35) that would repeal the Seventeenth Amendment, arguing that it gives too much power to Washington's special interests and was an attack on federalism.
16 posted on 08/05/2007 8:26:24 PM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: Obie Wan

As Jim says, we already have a representative in the House. The purpose of the legislative elected Senate was to make the senators beholden to the States and not special interests. As he said, can you call your senator and get him on the phone? The newspapers and television stations can and the lobbyists with big bucks can.

If the senators were not beholden to the public, they would not be swayed by public opinion. Hopefully, our state legislatures will be motivated by the shear gree of the federal goverment.


17 posted on 08/05/2007 8:26:43 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: GladesGuru

It worked for me. But, right now, all you get at the web site is a plea for money.


18 posted on 08/05/2007 8:26:47 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: processing please hold; Neil E. Wright; Congressman Billybob

We just met Sterling when he attended our recent online VetsCor board meeting. I thought he had some interesting arguments for repealing the 17th, so asked him if I could post this material. I’m hoping he’ll come on to the thread to answer questions and continue the debate.


19 posted on 08/05/2007 8:27:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: GladesGuru

http://hometown.aol.com/repealthe17th/ROAR.html

it works fine pasted into the address bar


20 posted on 08/05/2007 8:28:27 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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