Posted on 08/05/2007 5:34:39 PM PDT by Lovebloggers
CALLER: I want a complete, impartial, and totally independent investigation of the events of September 11, 2001 . I’m tired of this bogus garbage about terrorism. Ask Michael Meacher about how he feels about this bogus war on terrorism. Can you comment on that please?
HON. DR. RON PAUL: Well, that would be nice to have. Unfortunately, we don’t have that in place. IT WILL BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER NOW WITH THE DEMOCRATS NOW IN CHARGE OF OVERSIGHT. But you know, for top level policy there’s not a whole lot of difference between the two policies so a real investigation isn’t going to happen. But I think we have to keep pushing for it. And like you and others, we see the investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on.
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Shorter SJackson: Accusations of vote fraud are crazy...except when my guy loses.
Who cares?
Certainly not Ron Paul.
No, accusations of vote fraud are crazy when not supported.
Vote fraud is a crime you know. So it's a serious charge, one that should be supportable in some manner.
If the Paul supporters have a credible reason to believe Diebold will be engaging in vote fraud in Iowa, they need to bring the matter to the attention of the authorities immediately.
Barring that, it's just another bit of left wing lunacy a segment of his supporters buy into.
After re-reading my post I can see where you got the wrong idea. I was referring to the commies and socialists in the DEMOCRATIC PARTY like Comrade Hillary Clinton, Mullah Muhammed Barack Obama and Madame John Edwards. They are SOCIALISTS. PURE SOCIALISTS.
As much as we have our recent differences with our French friends prior to Sarkozy's election, at least we can agree that they are smart enough and honest enough to call their left wing candidates what they are...SOCIALISTS.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I hope this clarifies things. We have only a few closet Socialists like Olympia Snowe to go to rid the party of the fetid breath of tyranny. King Bloomberg (if he's a right wing "Republican" than I'm John the Baptist) has already removed his own puss filled pimple off of the ass of freedom known as conservatism/libertarianism. It's much easier when the garbage takes itself out.
Well, you can relax, because there were no accusations of vote fraud. There was a press release trying to raise awareness of the potential for vote fraud, so that supporters could show up to look for evidence of it, but no accusations of the actual thing.
If the Paul supporters have a credible reason to believe Diebold will be engaging in vote fraud in Iowa, they need to bring the matter to the attention of the authorities immediately.
If actual evidence is found, I'm sure that will happen.
Barring that, it's just another bit of left wing lunacy a segment of his supporters buy into.
More like a lack of reading comprehension.
Well, also I have younger ones who aren’t allowed to watch it, but it is hard to shield them from it when it is on. The younger ones do think cartoons are cartoons. Of course, they like the potty humor on SP — which I don’t care for. I would have been perfectly happy with the 9/11 conspiracy show w/o the urinal deuce.
Nope, no fraud accusation at all.
Spin, spin, spin.
I suspected that, but Ron Paul won't be confronting them.
Yes.
and that poll watchers are needed to conduct an "exit poll"
Uh huh.
to assure that what happened to Pat Buchanan, fraud, doesn't happen again.
Oh, and you were doing so well. Pat Buchanan wasn't mentioned in that release. In fact, no actual incidents of vote fraud were mentioned at all.
Spin, spin, spin.
No need. You're doing fine on your own.
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EF - I’d like to turn your attention to propaganda, and state-sanctioned mind control. It is common knowledge that the CIA and military have conducted mind control experimentation on American citizens. The most notorious case was Project MK Ultra in which Goldwater sat in on the Senate Hearings against the accused. Each time these agencies have been caught performing experiments, they shrug it off and say the activity was done a few decades ago, and that they have subsisted. Yet, more evidence surfaces, and we become aware that the mind control projects went on at least until the eighties. Now, when we hear rumors that the government has abducted children or sponsored sex slavery, we don’t want to believe it, but we must not discard it because of the government’s past history. Do you believe that members of our government are still actively involved in individual mind control experimentation?
RP - Probably, but the tragedy is I don’t know. The tragedy is that I’m in the Congress, and even when those bills come up you can’t get much information. I would assume to some degree they are. You know, what is official and what is not official? Some of the CIA gets caught trading drugs and financing some corrupt regime, which they have been caught. That individual, “We don’t even know who you are, buddy.” They disown you. And, that’s why the CIA in particular is a very, very dangerous organization.
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=90&contentid=1659&page=2
Dude — sex slavery, child abduction? Thank goodness the Democrats are in charge of oversight now.
That statement sort of cuts through the 545 other posts and gets to the heart of the matter doesn't it? Why do you (and I don't mean to pick on you but you just happen to be here) think that libertarians like me and Ron Paul who believe in limited government and free markets wouldn't, couldn't, shouldn't consider left wing Socialists their sworn enemies and not confront them?
If you want to resort to the lowest common denonminator of political discourse and bring up pot, weed, stoners etc. in order to avoid an intellectual argument than it is your constitutional right to plead the 5th Amendment and avoid prosecution. (I haven't touched that crap since the first Bush admin in 91, it never agreed with me)
There are indeed some similarities between liberals and libertarians. (for instance, hearing the words "penis" and "vagina" on the air doesn't offend either). But the differences are so broad and wide as to be irreconcilable. That's why you find libertarians here.
I didn't bring up pot, weeds, or stoners, or penis or vagina, or the 5th amendment, or any of the things you mention in your post.
I did bring up truthers, racists, and antisemites. The last two are evil imo, the first a bit off.
Ron Paul is more than welcome to confront the socialists in the Democratic Party as a Libertarian or a 3rd party candidate.
IMO, he won't be doing it as a Republican.
Oh no, he wasn't.
No, No, No, No, No, Pat wasn't mentioned, was vote fraud.
Take it slow, I know it's difficult, read the release. It says (my bold)
- one tells what happened at the Ames Straw Poll in 1995. One (A House without Doors) tells about the proven vote fraud against Pat Buchanan in the 1996 Iowa Presidential Caucuses, and how it was done. See you in Ames? (Letter slightly edited.)
Good grief, at least read before you post.
Fair enough. I skimmed and got busted. Not that it matters at any rate. The point is, you're trying to claim that Paul supporters are preemptively crying "vote fraud" in the upcoming straw poll. That's not happening.
Interesting — GWB has a tagline about Iowa and youtube also. Why are you guys so fixated on those two aspects, which are least likely to be scientifically representative? Oh wait, I just answered my own question. Nevermind!
Eye-popping, isn’t it?
Because it’s the first Beauty contest. Build the big MO
LOL! I don’t see how a straw poll — which is essentially comes down to whomever can stack his people there — means anything.
How old are you??
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