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So... Move...(In CA, "Millionaires Who Don't Feel Rich")
Federal Review ^ | Sunday, August 05, 2007

Posted on 08/05/2007 11:06:00 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: Filo
Until then, it’s the Sillycon Valley salt mines for me! :D

*CRACK*

Back to work with you, slacker!

= )

21 posted on 08/05/2007 12:05:23 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: EggsAckley

“...a few million doesn’t go as far as it used to...”

That happens to be true. Being a millionaire has long been perceived as being THE threshold for the truly rich. A million dollars is still a lot of $$, but now its barely enough to retire on. In CA, NY, & NJ, many homes that aren’t incredibly upscale cost over $1M. With many people making over $100K now, getting to be a millionaire isn’t as tough as it used to be. It may sound bizarre, but thanks to inflation, its true.

If this guy wants to keep on working, more power to him. Bill Gates kept on working hard well after he became a billionaire.


22 posted on 08/05/2007 12:11:08 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Hey with their communist/socialist friends like Obama, Edwards, Hitlery & Co who’re drooling at a tax hike, should’nt they be GLAD to be living in Kalifornia “The land of the socialist & hollyweird elites”.


23 posted on 08/05/2007 12:21:44 PM PDT by prophetic
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To: kittymyrib

You beat me to it...


24 posted on 08/05/2007 12:29:49 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
My heart bleeds for Mr. Stieger. I live in central Oklahoma. My 3 br 1.5 bath house cost me about $50K a decade ago. My neighbor’s house went for $68K two years ago. I can get gas for under $3 a gallon. It’s a 20 minute drive to work.

Yeah, there isn’t much beach here. Nor much in the way of mountains. On the other hand, lots of people live just fine here on under 50K a year. He should do what I did over 30 years ago. Move. I also traveled around a bit before settling, courtesy of Uncle Sam, and I’m quite happy here. Even if my dad now calls me a flatlander. ;)

25 posted on 08/05/2007 12:32:27 PM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: FightThePower!
I’m an X er. I figure that for me to live a comfortable retirement I need the equilivant of $200,000 per year in income. Today, you need 4,000,000 in T-bills to pay for that risk free. By the time I retire I figure I’ll need at least 10,000,000, to have a decent retirement.

I agree with your financial estimates. Fortunately, it is not that daunting if you don't inflate your lifestyle and let your investments roll and compound. Also don't get divorced. A sage once said "if it floats, flies, or f***s, don't buy . . . rent!"

26 posted on 08/05/2007 12:42:24 PM PDT by Maynerd (Bush is trying to sell a "War on Terror" against a "Religion of Peace." Confusing isn't it?)
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To: STONEWALLS

I;m working on retiring with ~2.5M in the bank. By that time, it should net me a lower class lifestyle. (I’m under 35.)


27 posted on 08/05/2007 12:53:37 PM PDT by Maigrey (The wand chooses the wizard, as much as the wizard chooses the wand... Mr. Ollivander)
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To: Daralundy
“Of course, in many cases, these people have let their expenditures get out of whack. Too fancy houses to keep up,expensive yacht, too many cars, very expensive schools for their kids etc.”

I don’t disagree wth what you say, but in fairness a 1.3 million dollar house in silicon valley is the equivalent of a $200,000 - 300,000 house lots of other places. The cost of living there is completely out of whack (I don’t live there). There are lots of places in California that a 1600-1700 square ft. condo/townhome costs $600,000 - 700,000 or more. And that’s not necessarily ocean front (those condos are often in the millions). This guy should consider himself very fortunate, but if he wants to get off the treadmill it’s time for him to move from silicon valley. Unfortunately, living the ‘California lifestyle’ has taken on such mythical stature that many people are willing to waste their lives holding on to this and giving everything working to stay there. I moved.

28 posted on 08/05/2007 1:00:08 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

California is about to implode, IMHO.

The ongoing giddy sense of paradise, and raging prosperity in the Golden State for the last decade has been fueled by exploding real estate equity.

The economy isn’t really getting better here. But a lot of people have been given access to a lot of money, which they otherwise would not have. It was almost a decade of unexpected free money.

People who bought homes a decade ago for rational prices, become millionaires almost overnight. All that equity in a rising home market, drove a torrent of home-equity driven spending, which in turn fueled spending and kept generating higher taxes for the state.

That of course kept pressure off the state government (including the current Gov) to control spending, since it was being funded unexpectedly well by increasing revenues.

Well. Guess what...


29 posted on 08/05/2007 1:05:50 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (D is for Defeatism. R is for Reconquista.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
You can be financially secure but in San Francisco, you run out of a few million dollars very quickly.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

30 posted on 08/05/2007 1:06:07 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
About 20 years ago, I knew a man from Las Vegas who was very high up in a company that built hotels and apartments. I visited him when he was being put up in a condo right on the water in Huntington Beach, CA, while he oversaw construction of some condo buildings. He was living a lifestyle some people dream of, but he vented to me about how much he hated California and was counting the minutes until he could return to Vegas. It wasn't just the loud surfers under his window every day at 5 a.m. (he told me he expected to snap one morning and shoot them all), it was the government.

He said California had been run by liberal morons for so long (remember, he was from the home of Libertarianism) that they had made the place unliveable. Their idiotic restrictions on landlords, developers and property owners had resulted in housing being so sparse and expensive that he already had his entire condo project leased out, and they hadn't even broken ground yet. He'd had to spend a year just cutting through red tape, and he said his wife thought he was crazy because he'd been offered a $25,000 bonus for doing such a good job, and he told them to keep it, at least until he got back to Vegas. He said with California taxes, he'd be pushed into a higher bracket and end up paying more than $25,000 in taxes if he took it. He ranted that the socialist nutjobs in Sacramento had managed to think of every way possible to punish anyone who tried to do anything remotely productive.

Again, that was 20 years ago. I shudder to think what it's like to live there now if you aren't a social parasite or a limousine liberal with a trust fund of money earned by someone else.

31 posted on 08/05/2007 1:15:37 PM PDT by HHFi
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

in Arizona they call them $35,000 millionaires...people that kept flipping up or refiancing to have a better lifestyle. All while holding down 35k jobs.


32 posted on 08/05/2007 1:17:46 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
What, exactly, is stopping him from selling the house, moving someplace cheaper, and retiring (or finding a job that doesn't require him to work so many hours)?

Being an idiot probably has a lot to do with that. When he gets to the point that the hoary fingers of death are just around the corner, he'll even waste the last days/months/years of his life wondering why he blew all of his young healthy time keeping to this track instead of kicking back and spending time with the wife or bouncing some grandkids on his knees...

33 posted on 08/05/2007 1:23:45 PM PDT by Axenolith (The Market is a harsh mistress...)
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To: STONEWALLS

Understand and agree — for the private sector. People working for the state govt or Feds are in a differenct position, having guaranteed benefits for life. Their retirement is worth over $1,500,000 but they have no idea how good they have it.

I often see folks at work who make $12-$20/hr. They don’t seem to understand that there is no automatic retirement. They buy new cars w/ loans. They don’t make their own lunches. They buy daily Starbucks lattes. When they get to their mid-50s they are in for a rude awakening.

Wheras, the folks at work who make the bigger bucks, they bring their own lunches and buy used cars, etc.


34 posted on 08/05/2007 1:25:40 PM PDT by Kay
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To: jcon40
How do I get to keep, in today’s dollars, what I’ve earned ?

You don't, you convert it into hard value assets that always rise in the aggregate in dollar value. Paper is crap, and just a promise. Turn as much of it as you can into gold, silver, copper, guns, long life durable goods, airable land, ammo, etc...

35 posted on 08/05/2007 1:26:35 PM PDT by Axenolith (The Market is a harsh mistress...)
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To: kittymyrib

amen


36 posted on 08/05/2007 1:44:06 PM PDT by Disciplinemisanthropy (...and that, friends, is what grinds my gears.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

My description of the Bay Area:

Those that have $10,000 are jealous of those who have $100,000.

Those that have $100,000 are jealous of those that have $1,000,000.

Those that have $1,000,000 are jealous of those that have $10,000,000.

Those that have $10,000,000 are jealous of those that have $100,000,000.

Hence, the social hierarchy is defined by a bunch of zeroes.


37 posted on 08/05/2007 1:45:21 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: glorgau

“Hence, the social hierarchy is defined by a bunch of zeroes.”

Point, set, and match!


38 posted on 08/05/2007 1:50:12 PM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: glorgau

There is a lot of truth to that, especially in the suburban parts of the Bay Area. People tend to be stiffer, angrier, and less friendly than in just about any other part of the country that I have been in - probably because they are stressed out by trying to live beyond their means.


39 posted on 08/05/2007 1:54:48 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Axenolith
Turn as much of it as you can into gold, silver, copper, guns, long life durable goods, airable land, ammo, etc...

I've put some of my stock earnings into stainless steel...S&W stainless. Just last week I noticed that the S&W 686+ I purchased in 1999 for $437 now seels for $830. The same has happened with the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Stainless..$439 now sells for $830. The firearms arms have appreciated while having intrinsic value beyond a blob of precious metal. I live in an area where a good rifle can put food on your table without the need to travel great distances.

40 posted on 08/05/2007 1:57:27 PM PDT by Myrddin
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