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Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #4 - Des Moines, IA 08/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread
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Posted on 08/05/2007 5:29:36 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture

Republican Presidential Candidate Debate #4 – Des Moines, Iowa 08/05/07 - Official Discussion Thread

ABC News will be conducting a debate to be aired on This Week. The nine announced GOP presidential candidates meet in a campaign debate at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. George Stephanopoulos is the moderator; Des Moines Register political writer David Yepsen poses additional questions. Debate starts at 8 am CT (9 am ET/ 6 am PT) * check local stations for broadcast time in your area *

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
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To: mnehrling
Paul is attacking Cheney. Ron Paul should run for spokesman for Daily Kos. He’s their favorite and I think he’s an A-Hole.
201 posted on 08/05/2007 8:37:05 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: Man50D; Principled; overtaxd

FairTax Question ping!


202 posted on 08/05/2007 8:38:06 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country. Right-Wing Conspirator and Friend of Fred)
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To: mnehrling
After hearing that we(conservative sites) are as bad as the left on C-Spam this morning nothing surprises me..figures.. if they ever use party platforms as a basis for electing a candidate they(the left) know they will lose every time.
203 posted on 08/05/2007 8:38:28 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: CenTexConfederate
Paul is in no way the 'darling' of old school Republicans. Old School Republicans don't blame the US for nutjob terrorists. Old School Republicans don't believe in sticking their heads in the sand in relation to threats to our nation. Old School Republicans don't parse words over 'war' versus 'force' when you have a madman tyrant shooting at our fighter jets, gassing his people, and shooting rockets at our allies. Old School Republicans don't scold everyone else for pork and say it's Unconstitutional while, at the same time, requesting millions for trolleys and wetland preservation in his own district.

Paul isn't an old school Republican, Paul is an opportunist Libertarian who has a lot of people tricked into thinking he is a Constitutinalist.

204 posted on 08/05/2007 8:38:52 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan

You are correct.

If Fred doesn’t enter....the party will totally emplode, handing the election to the ‘The SMUG ONE...Hillary.’


205 posted on 08/05/2007 8:40:07 AM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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To: mimaw
He is pulling the same leftist conspiracy that Cheney is pulling the strings on a Bush puppet.. all we need now is to hear him say that it is all part of a NWO conspiracy and he can officially be the candidate of the tin foil crowd (if he isn’t already..)
206 posted on 08/05/2007 8:40:11 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: rodguy911

“I just voted for Hunter but someone is really skewing it bad for Paul”

I can’t get to the poll from the posted link. I get a half screen with no way to vote.

Can anyone post a hot link to the poll?


207 posted on 08/05/2007 8:40:14 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: mnehrling
Could you post the link for us.

BTW, if it's skewed enough towards one candidate they will throw out the poll.

208 posted on 08/05/2007 8:41:07 AM PDT by 1035rep
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To: ClarenceThomasfan
I’m keeping an open mind, there are several candidates I could vote for including Hunter or Fred pretty much my main choices, or even Rudy or Romney my second tier choices.I think the world of Tancreado but you have to be realistic.
209 posted on 08/05/2007 8:41:27 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: MNJohnnie
That is why they spend ALL their time sniping their own side in the back. They don't want to be in the majority where they can actually get things done. They just want the excuse to sit around and bitch and whine about everything. Sorry but the future of this country is way more important then the Perpetually Pouting Dinocon choir getting the chance to spend the next 8 years gratifying their over developed egos.

Let me translate this nonsense for you....

< translate> You're all backing losers!! We shouldn't even have debates except between candidates I (and the RNC only if they agree with me) deem ACCEPTABLE! To think for yourself means by default you support HILLARY. To point out inconsistencies in the stances of the Suit and/or St. Rudy means you support Democrats DEEP DOWN. Just get behind the most electable candidate and shut up. Because in the end that's what's most important to me. Who cares what they stand for. They could be crackheads AFAIC!! If the public likes them, that's who we should support. Forget trying to change minds, you're just supporting Democrats if you do something as subversive as THAT!!! < /MNJohnnie TRANSlation>

Please feel free to take and use as needed anytime YOU want to make a comment about the Presidential debates....BECAUSE that statement is exactly WHAT (dang computer still in MNJohnnie mode...drop computer..bang, there that fixed it) you're saying....

210 posted on 08/05/2007 8:41:35 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: The Pack Knight

Rudy: The FairTax is better than the current tax, but its too hard to change, so I don’t want to do it.


211 posted on 08/05/2007 8:41:36 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country. Right-Wing Conspirator and Friend of Fred)
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To: mimaw
I think he’s an A-Hole.

Paul is the one candidate on our side who I think would actually be dangerous if elected. I'm afraid he is the type of person who, if faced with someone firing a nuke at us, wouldn't retaliate because he couldn't find the words 'red phone' or 'football' in the Constitution.

212 posted on 08/05/2007 8:41:46 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: MNJohnnie

“I have to conclude that deep down the Freeper Fringers REALLY want Hillary to win and the Democrats to control Congress after 2008.”

I am starting to agree with you. They want a President Hillary in order to “punish” the GOP in some sort of sick maschocistic way.

I want the GOP to win BIG in 2008. I intend to support the GOP nominee wholehartedly no matter if it is Fred, Mitt or Rudy. I will be giving part of my paycheck every month and my time to our candidate. I don’t want to see the White House under the control of the corrupt Clintons ever again.


213 posted on 08/05/2007 8:41:56 AM PDT by ClarenceThomasfan (I want President Bush to run for a third term!)
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To: All

Time for Duncan Hunter to spank Mrs. Paul!


214 posted on 08/05/2007 8:42:43 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: CounterCounterCulture

Do you think George would intend to feed into the lemming mentality?

I’m glad DUNCAN HUNTER went ahead and jumped in with facts.

Lord knows he can’t wait for Steph to ask him a question.


215 posted on 08/05/2007 8:42:48 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue-it is the business of all humanity.)
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To: The Pack Knight

questions from Clinton’s policy advisor 5 months before the Iowa Caucus, that’s their own fault.

Now I may have a disagreement with you about the star quarterback, but absolutely agree with you about George Stephanopoulos. Who’s next, James Carville?

I will take your star quarterback over Rudy any day.


216 posted on 08/05/2007 8:43:59 AM PDT by rineaux (the powers that be are laughing at us)
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To: Beagle8U

Don’t know if this will work but maybe.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Decision2008/popup?id=3436820


217 posted on 08/05/2007 8:44:46 AM PDT by texasgil (-Most people think everything is just what they assume.-)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

More “3 state solution” nonsense from Brownback....as Hunter once said, that would be taking down a DULY ELECTED GOVERNMENT.


218 posted on 08/05/2007 8:46:13 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: 1035rep

Here you go..
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Decision2008/popup?id=3436820


219 posted on 08/05/2007 8:46:42 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: mnehrling
'Paul isn't an old school Republican, Paul is an opportunist Libertarian who has a lot of people tricked into thinking he is a Constitutinalist.'

Thank you for saying that. I am surprised, almost daily, at the freepers that seem to support him!

220 posted on 08/05/2007 8:46:56 AM PDT by mathluv (Never Forget!)
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