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Short of barring infanticide, this sounds like an excellent law.
1 posted on 08/04/2007 1:14:42 PM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 08/04/2007 1:15:16 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 08/04/2007 1:16:38 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 08/04/2007 1:19:42 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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This will make all these guys think twice before they get an underage girl pregnant. She can’t get an abortion without his signature, which is an admission of guilt. And if she has the baby, DNA will prove it is his.


5 posted on 08/04/2007 1:24:21 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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I agree. Fathers should have a say. If I knew a baby of mine was aborted, I would be crushed.


6 posted on 08/04/2007 1:24:31 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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Supreme Court ruled a few weeks back that the Congress could write and pass lawas regulating abortion. Now we get a chance to see if it’s OK for state legislatures to do so.


7 posted on 08/04/2007 1:25:52 PM PDT by muawiyah
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although I agree, this could end up backfiring where a mom wants the child and dad wants the abortion. Than what would happen? Dads take mom to court to make her have an abortion? Who knows. I’m all for any and all ways to stop abortion, but not sure if this is the way to go.


10 posted on 08/04/2007 1:49:04 PM PDT by Halls (Vote for a Constitutionalist!!!!!!)
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I don't see how this one will stand. Either the father has veto power or he doesn't. The courts aren't going to give them that veto power.

And what if the woman isn't married? Is anyone going to do a paternity test first to establish that the person giving consent is actually the father? (What about inside a marriage??)

I'll assume that there are some excemptions for when Daddy's a rapist or Bill Clinton (oh, but I repeat myself).

13 posted on 08/04/2007 1:52:53 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a Liberal when I married her.)
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About time. If either parent wants to not murder the unborn child, then the kid’s life is spared. It’s not quite as strong/right as simply defending the kid no matter who finds him/her inconvenient, but it’s a step in the right direction. Neither parent is secondary.


17 posted on 08/04/2007 2:12:48 PM PDT by ProCivitas (Duncan Hunter '08: Pro-Family + Fair Trade = Pro-America)
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If a man is responsible for paying the bills in perpetuity of a woman chooses to have a child, I don’t see why he shouldn’t be brought in early on in the decision-making process.


19 posted on 08/04/2007 2:38:57 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Unapologetic Republican)
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The Supreme Court ruled in the Danforth case that spousal consent statutes are unconstitutional if the statutes allow the husband to unilaterally prohibit the abortion in the first trimester.

This may be revisited...
20 posted on 08/04/2007 2:42:21 PM PDT by Mikey_1962 (The last Americans to allow unchecked immigration...... were Native.)
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ise Mackura, the head of Ohio Right to Life, told the newspaper the bill is a good idea because it highlights how fathers are left out of the abortion process.

Careful, some of the more militant anti-male feminists might have another idea of how the father could be included in said process.

22 posted on 08/04/2007 2:45:41 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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I can’t see this as having overwhelming support from men. The leading cause of death among preganant women is murder by husband or boyfriend. I’ve known exactly one man, a Roman Catholic, who was upset his former girlfriend had an abortion and didn’t tell him at the time she was pregnent. But since he, at work, would openly refer to her as his ball and chain, one could suppose she hadn’t much expectation of a joyful acceptance of fatherhood.


27 posted on 08/04/2007 3:32:48 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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first degree misdemeanor.

Needs work

28 posted on 08/04/2007 3:51:10 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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"I'm really pleased that this has been proposed for one reason -- it draws attention to the fact that many men are concerned and care for their unborn children," she said.

I haven't seen caring men, when I am praying in front of PP. I see them do the 'drop and run'...they hand them the cash to pay for killing the baby, and drop them at the door. More considerate ones walk in with them, and THEN run. They never stay, IF they come along at all. I have seen more men pressuring women to abort. I guess I am in the wrong place.... I would love to see there be a way to hold the men accountable. The post-abortive women who go to counseling for the most part were in relationships where they were left or pressured to kill the baby. How often do the counselors really hear about a supportive, caring man? I am not being cynical or sarcastic...I truly would like to know. I see the opposite of what this woman claims.

The other thing that comes into play...it will make a good issue to bring up, but will it be good stewardship of time and money if it is going to be unconstitutional?! Just a thought, not a criticism.

29 posted on 08/04/2007 6:36:28 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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