scare pop-pop-whatever.
Posted on 08/04/2007 10:30:58 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
scare pop-pop-whatever.
You might want to read up on the history of the Russian gulags and work camps. A light bulb or two might click on.
Thank you UncleGunner.
Nice Redhawk. Sweet revolver.
Repeatedly, when making any arguments at all in gun related threads, I have met up with people who are so utterly irrational and knee-jerk that even if they just don’t recognize what I am saying as typical, they attack me as being a liberal, or anti-2nd amendment.
Even when what I am saying is profoundly pro-2nd amendment.
While it may give a satisfactory emotional release, such bizarre behavior does nothing to promote the cause of gun rights and liberties. For that you have to think, not just assume that everyone not reciting words you are used to is the enemy.
My comments began with what I thought was an utterly uncontroversial point, that everyone would benefit if gun manufacturers included an inexpensive and elaborate DVD about their products, full of information about gun safety, maintenance, and lots of other useful information.
This was responded to by a comment to the effect that gun knowledge is useless without training “young people” to kill people they see as a threat.
Uh, no. That’s a different subject entirely, and the lack of it has nothing to do with gun safety and maintenance. That is not to say that it is bad, just different.
To which the next comment said that “most Americans” would be “dumbfounded” by the idea of using guns to defend their liberties, other than self-defense.
Which really had nothing to do with what I was talking about.
I responded by saying that I didn’t think “most Americans” would be unwilling to defend their liberties, but thankfully in our society it is seldom that we need to use guns to do so. Most people are so unafraid that they don’t even bother to carry guns.
I think this really started the whole kookiness.
Eaker decided go off at that point. While I was arguing on behalf of the social contract in a polite society, to him that seemed to say that I wanted to take his guns away, with the “cold, dead fingers” remark and the Ben Franklin quote.
Squantos jumped in at that point with something strange.
Along with another snipe by Eaker.
At this point I was getting frustrated. Eaker sounded like a complete kook, ready to dispense gun justice in any or no particular direction, for little cause. And thus my remark, since he seemed to equate getting his way with liberty.
As I said, everyone must surrender a *little* liberty, just to get along. As a husband can argue with his wife or children without drawing guns. That is surrendering a little liberty to get along.
It has nothing to do with the government or gun control.
And neither do manufacturer DVDs promoting proper use and safety.
Well, the bottom line is that in future, if I have a comment about guns, anything about guns, I will refrain from posting it to Freep. As while I post on endless other topics, I guess some subjects are just too programmed for discussion.
I will leave you all to your mutual doctrine society.
bttt
They do that, but in a more accessible printed form. It's called the owner's manual. If you lose yours, or buy a gun secondhand, gun manufacturers will send you one, free! You don't even need to own a computer to learn gun safety tips, and proper care and operation of your gun!
Thank you for posting this (#63). To think that state's rights may impose on our Constitution when in conflict with one or more of it's provisions (limitations on government) does not, a conservative make. It reminds me of one in search of paper to stoke a fire and, finding none, reaches for this 'parchment' (with many signatures) and proceeds to light it and toss it into the stove.
The notion that states could undo protections galvanized in the union to which they voluntarily subscribed is anything but conservative. I'll gladly join you in shoving this fact in the faces of those who continue to perpetuate this fraud.
I like the people who rip on you for thinking you were serious when your name is “humblegunner”. Good stuff, it’s concerning how many people can’t get sarcasm over the interwebs.
The Contract was signed when the constitution was signed. All other 'contracts' are null and void.
That poses a real dilemma for the government. Who are they gonna get to disarm us? They know we've got the guns, and therein lies their dilemma. It will never happen without a lot of dead people and it more than likely will be some of the government folks who ordered it.
That is why one old question is worth asking again. It is this: What if the Second Amendment is for real? Is it possible that it should it be revered, just like the First Amendment?
And the answer? It should be more revered. It keeps all the others in force. Without the 2nd, It would become very easy for some to ignore the Constitution alltogether.
Thanks. It's a 45, took me a bit of time to find it in that caliber.
Me too, especially I end up on the wrong end of it!! That's why I have several and I constantly practise, practise and more practise.
I dunno. Ask actor Ving Rhames? His two Mastiffs just ate his own gardener a few days ago. That's the good thing about guns, they don't kill anybody you don't specifiy by your own actions in pulling the trigger.
Tell that to the citizens of New Orleans.
I have three, one that was a .44 that has been re-chambered into a 5-shot .475 Linebaugh, a .41 MAG and a .357. The .357 and .41 are pretty uncommon, they exist, but folks who have them don't want to part with them.
The most fundamental right of every living creature is the right to self-preservation. No government can take this right away, even if it imposes laws that forbid it. If it does, the laws are invalid.
Refuse to be a victim of vicious predators and well-meaning but misled politicians. Protect yourself with deadly force if necessary.
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