Repeatedly, when making any arguments at all in gun related threads, I have met up with people who are so utterly irrational and knee-jerk that even if they just don’t recognize what I am saying as typical, they attack me as being a liberal, or anti-2nd amendment.
Even when what I am saying is profoundly pro-2nd amendment.
While it may give a satisfactory emotional release, such bizarre behavior does nothing to promote the cause of gun rights and liberties. For that you have to think, not just assume that everyone not reciting words you are used to is the enemy.
My comments began with what I thought was an utterly uncontroversial point, that everyone would benefit if gun manufacturers included an inexpensive and elaborate DVD about their products, full of information about gun safety, maintenance, and lots of other useful information.
This was responded to by a comment to the effect that gun knowledge is useless without training “young people” to kill people they see as a threat.
Uh, no. That’s a different subject entirely, and the lack of it has nothing to do with gun safety and maintenance. That is not to say that it is bad, just different.
To which the next comment said that “most Americans” would be “dumbfounded” by the idea of using guns to defend their liberties, other than self-defense.
Which really had nothing to do with what I was talking about.
I responded by saying that I didn’t think “most Americans” would be unwilling to defend their liberties, but thankfully in our society it is seldom that we need to use guns to do so. Most people are so unafraid that they don’t even bother to carry guns.
I think this really started the whole kookiness.
Eaker decided go off at that point. While I was arguing on behalf of the social contract in a polite society, to him that seemed to say that I wanted to take his guns away, with the “cold, dead fingers” remark and the Ben Franklin quote.
Squantos jumped in at that point with something strange.
Along with another snipe by Eaker.
At this point I was getting frustrated. Eaker sounded like a complete kook, ready to dispense gun justice in any or no particular direction, for little cause. And thus my remark, since he seemed to equate getting his way with liberty.
As I said, everyone must surrender a *little* liberty, just to get along. As a husband can argue with his wife or children without drawing guns. That is surrendering a little liberty to get along.
It has nothing to do with the government or gun control.
And neither do manufacturer DVDs promoting proper use and safety.
Well, the bottom line is that in future, if I have a comment about guns, anything about guns, I will refrain from posting it to Freep. As while I post on endless other topics, I guess some subjects are just too programmed for discussion.
I will leave you all to your mutual doctrine society.
They do that, but in a more accessible printed form. It's called the owner's manual. If you lose yours, or buy a gun secondhand, gun manufacturers will send you one, free! You don't even need to own a computer to learn gun safety tips, and proper care and operation of your gun!
Damn you can bloviate and still say nothing of value.
You seem to equate intentional murder with planned self defense which is just plain stupid and displays your ignorance.
Further, have you noticed that NOBODY has agreed with you? There is a reason for that.
You cannot tell the difference between a God given right and a social contract.
Finally, you said that you will not post your bs anti-gun dogma on FR.
Good, as it is neither appreciated nor valued.