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Attack on Pregnant Woman Should be Double Murder Attempt - Catholic Women's League
LifeSiteNews ^ | 8/3/07 | Hilary White

Posted on 08/04/2007 9:42:56 AM PDT by wagglebee

DARTMOUTH, Nova Scotia, August 3, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Alan Bryan the Dartmouth man who assaulted his pregnant 28-year-old former girlfriend, Charlene Marie Knapp, should be charged with two counts, not one, of attempted murder says Canada's largest Catholic charitable organisation.

The president of the Nova Scotia branch of the Catholic Women's League, Shirley MacDougall, told the Halifax Chronicle Herald, "From our point of view, a foetus is a life. It should be a double attempted murder."

Alan Bryan is charged with one count each of attempted murder, aggravated assault and assault with a sword. He has been ordered to undergo a 30-day psychiatric assessment at the Nova Scotia Hospital

Knapp is in hospital and listed in serious condition after she was discovered in the small hours of Tuesday morning with multiple stab wounds and deep cuts from knee to neck. Bryan and Knapp lived for about three months in a Dartmouth apartment together with Ms. Knapp's six-year-old daughter who was not present during the attack.

In Canada, no legal protection or recognition whatever exists for a child before birth, including the right to protection from assault. Under the current law, some court cases have allowed a child to sue for injuries incurred while in the womb, but only after the child is born and acquires legal existence. The law also allows an unborn child to be named as heir to an estate, but no legal repercussions will occur if he is killed by abortion.

Last year, an unborn victims of violence bill brought forward by Conservative MP Leon Benoit, was squelched in the committee at the behest of Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Benoit plans to bring forward another bill in the next parliament.

C-291 proposed making it a separate offence to kill or injure an unborn child while committing a violent crime against its mother.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; canada; catholic; moralabsolutes; prolife
The president of the Nova Scotia branch of the Catholic Women's League, Shirley MacDougall, told the Halifax Chronicle Herald, "From our point of view, a foetus is a life. It should be a double attempted murder."

It is not just a point of view, it is the truth.

1 posted on 08/04/2007 9:42:59 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 08/04/2007 9:43:33 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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3 posted on 08/04/2007 9:43:59 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 08/04/2007 9:44:31 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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5 posted on 08/04/2007 9:44:53 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Mmm! absolutly agree but the question arises as to why murder for one person is not murder for another? Either killing an unborn child is murder or it aint and the law should apply equally to the abortionist as the killer...theoretically.


6 posted on 08/04/2007 9:49:29 AM PDT by fieldgate
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To: wagglebee

Not so long as abortion is the law of the land. If *any* mother has the right to kill her fetus, then no one can logically be convicted of murdering a fetus. The girls have been having it both ways for far too long.


7 posted on 08/04/2007 10:04:15 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland
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That is exactly my point of view. If I were ever on a jury trying the death of a fetus due to an assault on the mother, I could not in good conscience vote to convict on the murder charge when thousands of abortionists walk around free to ply their evil craft.


8 posted on 08/04/2007 10:56:58 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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IMHO, that sounds like you are giving in to the abortionists rather than standing up for the women that actually want their babies. I see it all as murder.

I’m about to give birth to our fourth child. My kids already talk about their brother Thomas. He has his own room and toys. He has been with us for 9 months now. My parents and in-laws are anxiously awaiting his arrival, as well as all the aunts, uncles, cousins and friends. He is very much a person to us. If something happened to me and this child I pray that folks like you are not on the jury. It would definitely be a loss of more than one and my family would deserve that justice.


9 posted on 08/04/2007 11:38:41 AM PDT by samiam1972 (http://imrunningforpresident.blogspot.com/)
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Of course it is all murder, but we ought to be consistent about it. If a criminal causing the death of one fetus can be convicted, why does the abortionist get a free pass to kill thousands? What if a pregnant woman were on her way to the abortionist’s clinic when the assault occured? BTW, I likely would not get on such a jury, because I would make my views known during voir dire.


10 posted on 08/04/2007 11:51:37 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (Islam is a despotism so vile that it would warm the heart of Orwell's Big Brother)
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I’d never make it on a jury, either! ;0)


11 posted on 08/04/2007 12:01:01 PM PDT by samiam1972 (http://imrunningforpresident.blogspot.com/)
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12 posted on 08/04/2007 1:36:57 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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An unborn baby in Canada has fewer protections than an animal, and how convenient: last April saw the introduction of Bill C-373 which would strengthen Canada’s animal cruelty laws. According to animal rights activists:

1. There is currently no definition of animal, and under C-373 animal would be defined as any “vertebrate” except humans.

2. Under the old but still current law protections differ depending on the kind of animal involved. C-373 protections would apply to all vertebrates equally whether they are owned or unowned and includes special provisions for the protection of law enforcement animals.

3. Currently, cruelty to an animal is a property crime. C-373 would change that to make such crimes separate from other property offences to reflect animals are sentient beings.

4. A violation now requires proof of “willful neglect” . It is almost impossible to prosecute and punish crimes of neglect under this standard. Under C-373, the standard for proving neglect of an animal would be evidence of “departing markedly from the standard of care that a reasonable person would use.”

5. Under current law wild or stray animals can be killed for any reason. C-373 would make it an offence to kill any animal without a lawful excuse. Lawful excuse would include hunting, fishing, farming, euthanasia and protection of life and property.

6. The current legislation does not address brutally or viciously killing an animal as a form of violence. Currently, there must be proof of unnecessary pain and suffering by the animal. Under C-373 it would be an offence to kill an animal with brutal or vicious intent, whether or not the animal dies immediately.

7. The current legislation does not make it an offence to train animals to fight other animals, nor to receive money for the fighting of animals. C-373 makes it an offence to train an animal to fight and receive money for animal fighting and training.

So what does this mean?

It means that you better not even THINK about aborting your dog’s unborn puppies, but it’s quite ok to murder an unborn human baby because after all, it’s the “woman’s right to choose”.

Ohhhhhh Canada. :(


13 posted on 08/04/2007 5:24:11 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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It means that you better not even THINK about aborting your dog’s unborn puppies, but it’s quite ok to murder an unborn human baby because after all, it’s the “woman’s right to choose”.

Sick, isn't it?

14 posted on 08/04/2007 5:25:54 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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It is indeed. And there will be a Day when the souls of each and every one of the countless millions upon millions of aborted babies will confront their killers, and Almighty God will Judge.


15 posted on 08/04/2007 5:30:00 PM PDT by mkjessup (Jan 20, 2009 - "We Don't Know. Where Rudy Went. Just Glad He's Not. The President. Burma Shave.")
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To: mkjessup

Very true.


16 posted on 08/04/2007 5:35:58 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

PRO-LIFE BUMP!


17 posted on 08/04/2007 6:06:52 PM PDT by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: wagglebee

**Attack on Pregnant Woman Should be Double Murder Attempt - Catholic Women’s League**

Agree wholeheartedly!


18 posted on 08/04/2007 9:14:06 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Pray for the conversion of America!

19 posted on 08/04/2007 9:15:37 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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