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Republican Voters Still Don't Know Rudy Giuliani Supports Abortion
Life News ^
| 8/3/07
| Steven Ertelt
Posted on 08/04/2007 9:18:34 AM PDT by wagglebee
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We need to make people understand how leftist Roody is.
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posted on
08/04/2007 9:18:38 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
To: cgk; Coleus; cpforlife.org; narses; 8mmMauser
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posted on
08/04/2007 9:19:18 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
Something I’ve been saying for a while.. it will be hard for the real Conservative candidates to beat Rudy because of 1. The Pop Culture Vote, 2. The Uninformed Vote, 3. The Terrorism First Vote.
This is even further challenged when the Conservatives split up their primary votes among 2-3 good candidates, that could hand the nomination to Rudy.
I know many good, strong Conservatives who support Rudy because they think he is the only one who can win.
Sad, yes, but it is also a lesson that we shouldn’t predict anything based solely on the feeling we get from reading posts here. Get out and educate.
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posted on
08/04/2007 9:23:22 AM PDT
by
mnehring
(Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
To: wagglebee
That’s because the liberal media isn’t talking about it. They want Rudy to get nominated first so they can bring it up (and all of Rudy’s other skeletons) then and hope conservatives stay home (which most of them will).
To: mnehrling
We should not take the same “he is only one who can beat [insert demo candidate name] we did that in 2000.
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posted on
08/04/2007 9:26:08 AM PDT
by
tiger-one
(The night has a thousand eyes)
To: wagglebee
Never underestimate how dumb the electorate is.
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posted on
08/04/2007 9:27:03 AM PDT
by
Saundra Duffy
(Romney Rocks!!!)
Comment #7 Removed by Moderator
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
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posted on
08/04/2007 9:31:53 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: AGENT_MOULDER
You are looking at that wrong..
LEGAL votes are 99% of the electorate (the remaining 1% are dead people Dems dig up.) Why should anyone (RNC or DNC) pander to illegal voters..
This isn’t about Caucasian or Hispanic or whatever race/culture.. it is about legal vs illegal.
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posted on
08/04/2007 9:36:09 AM PDT
by
mnehring
(Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
To: wagglebee
“We need to make people understand how leftist Roody is.”
Personally, I think we need to know just exactly who they are surveying.
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posted on
08/04/2007 9:40:06 AM PDT
by
Old Student
(We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
To: wagglebee
AND they have no idea Rudy dresses up like a woman and then marches in gay pride parades....
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posted on
08/04/2007 9:50:15 AM PDT
by
Fred
(Democrat Party - "The Nadir of Nihilism")
To: AGENT_MOULDER
That’s an interesting obsession you have there
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posted on
08/04/2007 9:51:37 AM PDT
by
Oztrich Boy
(“Serious-minded people have few ideas. People with ideas are never serious.” Paul Valery)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Rudy doesn’t believe in abortion but also believes it is not the government’s business. To me, that’s core conservatism.
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posted on
08/04/2007 9:54:53 AM PDT
by
scheuber
(Life happens because it can, not because it's supposed to.)
To: wagglebee
I honestly think that to many traditional Republican voters abortion is not a deciding issue regarding a candidate. Obviously this is not true of the Christian right.
As someone who supported Rudy earlier in his campaign I can tell you that I gave up on him more for the fact that he is a product of an ultra leftist political machine (NYC), than for his abortion stand. In other words New York politicians, GOP or Dem, do not think like the people in the country they would represent.
Now I do believe it’s good that anybody to whom abortion is their overriding issue be told the facts about Giuliani. I just don’t think it will hold as much sway with other Republicans as some here might think.
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posted on
08/04/2007 10:02:54 AM PDT
by
Artemis Webb
(Cindy Sheehan for Congress! Because...well...just because!)
To: Artemis Webb
I honestly think that to many traditional Republican voters abortion is not a deciding issue regarding a candidate. As time goes on, I think you're right. Rudy's getting the nomination would confirm that abortion has lost the importance it had for the last few decades. I know I'll never vote for him, I'd rather have Hillary, which would give us back a strong Republican Congress in both houses in 2010.
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posted on
08/04/2007 10:10:16 AM PDT
by
hunter112
(Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
To: wagglebee
As a pro life conservative, I made a tactical decision in this years primary. I want a leader who will continue the War on Terror regardless on hurting someones feeling. Calling them out, and naming them Terrorists is # 1 priority for me. And as of today Rudy fits the bill. I am not naive, nor are any of the Rudy supporters that I have met or talked to. We really, really, honestly know his stance on the social issues, we have just decided that War on Terror will be our #1 issue. We are not asking for permission, nor are we asking to be "informed", and for the most part, with the exception of explaining why we back him, we aren't necessarily looking for recruits (although anyone who weighs the pro's and cons and sides with us are welcome).
I, personally, think that although I would love a world where abortion didn't exist, where homosexuals couldn't marry, and religious freedom was truly a concept embraced by all, when that day comes I want to be able to Thank God, and not praise alah.
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posted on
08/04/2007 10:24:06 AM PDT
by
codercpc
To: wagglebee
If true, this doesn’t say much good of the GOP constituency. Rudy’s stance on abortion isn’t a secret, nor is it ambiguous.
If the stereotype of the GOPer as a dull-witted, ignorant rube accurate?
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posted on
08/04/2007 10:25:20 AM PDT
by
HitmanLV
("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
To: hunter112
I'd rather have Hillary, which would give us back a strong Republican Congress in both houses in 2010. Don't be so sure.. If Hilldog wins, and the dems hold the house and senate, then they will be in power during a crucial time, the 2010 census. Although drawing district lines is a State issue, the influence of the federal government in power has great influence over how the lines are drawn. Other issues would be potential judicial nominations, of which many are for life. An election is far more than one person, it is about a system and setting in place events that will last long beyond their term(s).
No matter how much I dislike Rudy, if the general comes around and it is him vs. Hilldog/Obama, I will vote Rudy. The alternative is unacceptable.
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posted on
08/04/2007 10:28:15 AM PDT
by
mnehring
(Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
To: wagglebee
He could probably change his position and declare himself against abortion...and most people would never know, that’s the quality of the electorate.
To: wagglebee
I’m forwarding this to non-freepers. Rudee & Judee for prez? NO THANKS!
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posted on
08/04/2007 10:29:16 AM PDT
by
lilylangtree
(Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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