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Republican Voters Still Don't Know Rudy Giuliani Supports Abortion
Life News ^ | 8/3/07 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 08/04/2007 9:18:34 AM PDT by wagglebee

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A new poll shows that over half of Republican voters can't identify that Rudy Giuliani is the lone GOP presidential candidate who supports abortion. However, the new Pew survey finds that pro-life voters and those who are paying more attention to the presidential race are more likely to know that fact.

Among all self-identified Republican voters, just 41 percent are aware that the former New York City mayor is only Republican in the race to favor legalized abortion.

Awareness of Giuliani's position is higher among Republican voters who have given a lot of thought to the candidates as 58 percent correctly identify his pro-abortion stance.

Only 40 percent of those who have given "some" attention to the presidential race know Giuliani is pro-abortion and just 25 percent of those who have paid little or no attention can cite that fact.

There also is an ideological divide as conservatives (who tend to be more pro-life) are more likely to identify Giuliani as pro-abortion than moderate or liberal Republicans (who are more likely to be pro-abortion) by a 47-30 percentage point margin.

The Pew survey found that, among voters in both parties, 39 percent can identify Giuliani has pro-abortion. That's an increase of two percent over the 37 percent found in Pew's June poll.

As more Americans focus on the presidential elections and as abortion has been a big issue for debate regarding Giuliani over the last few months, more Republicans appear to be favoring other candidates.

Pew found Giuliani leading the race with the support of 27 percent of GOP voters nationally, but that is down 5 percent from last month. Fred Thompson, who is pro-life, has jumped eight percent to 18 percent, John McCain has lost seven percent to drop to 16 percent overall, and Mitt Romney went up two points to 10 percent.

Other polls show that Giuliani's pro-abortion position is hurting him among Republicans.

A June Harris Poll found that the more conservative the Republican the more likely Giuliani's pro-abortion views are off-putting.

Some 26% of adults agree that his positions on issues such as abortion make them unable to vote for him -- and the percentage is high enough to make his road to the White House more difficult.

Another 43 percent say his pro-abortion position isn't a deciding factor and 31 percent are not sure, meaning his stance could still prompt them to oppose his candidacy.

While about one-quarter of Republicans say Giuliani's pro-abortion views would cause them to vote for someone else, this percentage rises to 35 percent when self-identified conservative Republicans examine his views.

That could be a huge factor in early primary states like Iowa and South Carolina where conservative Republicans dominate the elections there.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; prolife; rudygiuliani
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We need to make people understand how leftist Roody is.
1 posted on 08/04/2007 9:18:38 AM PDT by wagglebee
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To: cgk; Coleus; cpforlife.org; narses; 8mmMauser

Pro-Life Ping


2 posted on 08/04/2007 9:19:18 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee
Something I’ve been saying for a while.. it will be hard for the real Conservative candidates to beat Rudy because of 1. The Pop Culture Vote, 2. The Uninformed Vote, 3. The Terrorism First Vote.

This is even further challenged when the Conservatives split up their primary votes among 2-3 good candidates, that could hand the nomination to Rudy.

I know many good, strong Conservatives who support Rudy because they think he is the only one who can win.

Sad, yes, but it is also a lesson that we shouldn’t predict anything based solely on the feeling we get from reading posts here. Get out and educate.

3 posted on 08/04/2007 9:23:22 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: wagglebee

That’s because the liberal media isn’t talking about it. They want Rudy to get nominated first so they can bring it up (and all of Rudy’s other skeletons) then and hope conservatives stay home (which most of them will).


4 posted on 08/04/2007 9:25:09 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: mnehrling
We should not take the same “he is only one who can beat [insert demo candidate name] we did that in 2000.
5 posted on 08/04/2007 9:26:08 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: wagglebee

Never underestimate how dumb the electorate is.


6 posted on 08/04/2007 9:27:03 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Very true.


8 posted on 08/04/2007 9:31:53 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: AGENT_MOULDER
You are looking at that wrong..

LEGAL votes are 99% of the electorate (the remaining 1% are dead people Dems dig up.) Why should anyone (RNC or DNC) pander to illegal voters..

This isn’t about Caucasian or Hispanic or whatever race/culture.. it is about legal vs illegal.

9 posted on 08/04/2007 9:36:09 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: wagglebee
“We need to make people understand how leftist Roody is.”

Personally, I think we need to know just exactly who they are surveying.

10 posted on 08/04/2007 9:40:06 AM PDT by Old Student (We have a name for the people who think indiscriminate killing is fine. They're called "The Bad Guys)
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To: wagglebee

AND they have no idea Rudy dresses up like a woman and then marches in gay pride parades....


11 posted on 08/04/2007 9:50:15 AM PDT by Fred (Democrat Party - "The Nadir of Nihilism")
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To: AGENT_MOULDER

That’s an interesting obsession you have there


12 posted on 08/04/2007 9:51:37 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (“Serious-minded people have few ideas. People with ideas are never serious.” Paul Valery)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Rudy doesn’t believe in abortion but also believes it is not the government’s business. To me, that’s core conservatism.


13 posted on 08/04/2007 9:54:53 AM PDT by scheuber (Life happens because it can, not because it's supposed to.)
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To: wagglebee
I honestly think that to many traditional Republican voters abortion is not a deciding issue regarding a candidate. Obviously this is not true of the Christian right.

As someone who supported Rudy earlier in his campaign I can tell you that I gave up on him more for the fact that he is a product of an ultra leftist political machine (NYC), than for his abortion stand. In other words New York politicians, GOP or Dem, do not think like the people in the country they would represent.

Now I do believe it’s good that anybody to whom abortion is their overriding issue be told the facts about Giuliani. I just don’t think it will hold as much sway with other Republicans as some here might think.

14 posted on 08/04/2007 10:02:54 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Cindy Sheehan for Congress! Because...well...just because!)
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To: Artemis Webb
I honestly think that to many traditional Republican voters abortion is not a deciding issue regarding a candidate.

As time goes on, I think you're right. Rudy's getting the nomination would confirm that abortion has lost the importance it had for the last few decades. I know I'll never vote for him, I'd rather have Hillary, which would give us back a strong Republican Congress in both houses in 2010.

15 posted on 08/04/2007 10:10:16 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: wagglebee
As a pro life conservative, I made a tactical decision in this years primary. I want a leader who will continue the War on Terror regardless on hurting someones feeling. Calling them out, and naming them Terrorists is # 1 priority for me. And as of today Rudy fits the bill. I am not naive, nor are any of the Rudy supporters that I have met or talked to. We really, really, honestly know his stance on the social issues, we have just decided that War on Terror will be our #1 issue. We are not asking for permission, nor are we asking to be "informed", and for the most part, with the exception of explaining why we back him, we aren't necessarily looking for recruits (although anyone who weighs the pro's and cons and sides with us are welcome).

I, personally, think that although I would love a world where abortion didn't exist, where homosexuals couldn't marry, and religious freedom was truly a concept embraced by all, when that day comes I want to be able to Thank God, and not praise alah.

16 posted on 08/04/2007 10:24:06 AM PDT by codercpc
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To: wagglebee

If true, this doesn’t say much good of the GOP constituency. Rudy’s stance on abortion isn’t a secret, nor is it ambiguous.

If the stereotype of the GOPer as a dull-witted, ignorant rube accurate?


17 posted on 08/04/2007 10:25:20 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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To: hunter112
I'd rather have Hillary, which would give us back a strong Republican Congress in both houses in 2010.

Don't be so sure.. If Hilldog wins, and the dems hold the house and senate, then they will be in power during a crucial time, the 2010 census. Although drawing district lines is a State issue, the influence of the federal government in power has great influence over how the lines are drawn. Other issues would be potential judicial nominations, of which many are for life. An election is far more than one person, it is about a system and setting in place events that will last long beyond their term(s).

No matter how much I dislike Rudy, if the general comes around and it is him vs. Hilldog/Obama, I will vote Rudy. The alternative is unacceptable.

18 posted on 08/04/2007 10:28:15 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: wagglebee

He could probably change his position and declare himself against abortion...and most people would never know, that’s the quality of the electorate.


19 posted on 08/04/2007 10:28:27 AM PDT by Swordfished
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To: wagglebee

I’m forwarding this to non-freepers. Rudee & Judee for prez? NO THANKS!


20 posted on 08/04/2007 10:29:16 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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