Paul’s active service member donations get noticed (the Troops support Ron Paul)

The Hill ^ | August 3, 2007 | By Klaus Marre

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Paul’s active service member donations get noticed
By Klaus Marre
August 03, 2007

Rep. Ron Paul (Texas), the anti-Iraq war candidate for the Republican presidential nomination and darling of the Internet, said his colleagues have taken notice that he has raised more money from active service members than any other GOP White House hopeful.

"Lots of military people turned out to be aware that our campaign got more donations from soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines than any other," said Paul in a statement on his website. "Funny, that made a big impression in Congress too. Many of my colleagues were amazed and encouraged that you can be against this unconstitutional and disastrous war, and get military support."

While campaign spokesman Jesse Benton did not name names, he said that "two southern Republicans" recently approached Paul. They noted that his success in getting money from members of the active military is "turning some heads."

Paul said it is "an outrage that we are accused of not supporting the troops" and called it a "scam when the warmongers claim to be pro-soldier."

Despite his popularity on the Internet and a surprisingly strong second quarter fund-raising effort, which saw his campaign haul in $2.4 million, Paul is universally considered as a long shot candidate for the nomination.

However, he told supporters that he is "cautiously optimistic" about next week’s Iowa straw poll.

Paul also noted that he has received some good press about being frugal with his campaign contributions.

"I treat every donation with care, since it comes from a good American who shares our hope for the future, and who had to work hard to earn that money," Paul said.

Benton added that the prudence in spending is a sign of what is to come.

"The way he runs his campaign is a microcosm of how he would run the country," said Benton of his boss. He added that Paul would spend money where it needs to be spent but would otherwise be careful not to waste a penny.

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RON PAUL supports the Troops...

Ron Paul is the RIGHT Candidate for National Defense and Foreign Affairs.

• Ron Paul voted for the National Missile Defense Act. (source)
• Ron Paul is one of only two co-sponsors of H. Res. 123, for the establishment of a Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs to "conduct a full investigation of all unresolved matters relating to any United States personnel unaccounted for from the Vietnam era, the Korean conflict, World War II, Cold War Missions, or Gulf War, including MIA's and POW's." (POW-MIA InterNetwork)
• Ron Paul supports a strengthened Coast Guard and increased port security, and increased benefits for veterans.
• Ron Paul advocates United States withdrawal from the United Nations and withdrawal from the World Trade Organization. Says Ron Paul: "We don't need CAFTA or any other international agreement to reap the economic benefits promised by CAFTA supporters, we only need to change our own harmful economic and tax policies. Let the rest of the world hurt their citizens with tariffs; if we simply reduce tariffs and taxes at home, we will attract capital and see our economy flourish." (source).
• "Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country." --U.S. President Ronald Reagan

...And the Troops support RON PAUL!

It has been no surprise that the contributions from the US Navy, US Army, US Air Force, and US Veterans tends to favor the Republican Party but what might be a little surprising is that Congressman Ron Paul leads the pack overall with more contributions than even Senator John McCain:
Ron Paul is the US Military's #1 Choice

[ejonesie22]

Bingo! We have a winner...

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Coming from the person who started this thread with an article followed by numerous links to "Stuff that other people have said about Ron Paul" is beyond caricature. Your incompetence at this kind of thing is hilarious, but I feel like I'm kicking a cripple.

You began your entire argument on this thread with a puerile "Appeal to Ridicule" Logical Fallacy.

I have treated you like the logical infant that you are, ever since.

[ejonesie22]

Damn, beat me to it. Must have been a helluva party at the bunker last night

[Darkwolf377]

What is there among Ron Paul’s policy prescriptions that the young William F. Buckley would have disagreed with? ~~http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDkyYzdkNDNjM2QzMmI1NGEzZmEzYWRjYzQ0OTgxNmU=&w=MA==

So I post MULTIPLE examples of what your candidate has said...and I'm posting what other people say.

YOU post an article about him and...

Why am I talking logic to someone who supports a Libertarian John Birch-type who thinks 9-11 was brought on by the US, wants to retreat in the face of islamofascism, and who appears on Alex Jones' radio show?

[ejonesie22]

No, you are right. From the officers on down...

[Chi-townChief]

Again - who’s your pastor? What’s his theory on “the just war”?

[mutley]

OMG one you wade through the Ron Paul websites and get to the source you note that is is indexed by dollar amount. DOLLAR AMOUNT, not # of individuals.

I just wasted my time doing the same thing. It is not related in any way (zero, zilch, nada) to military support. Less than $7,000.00 out of the entire armed forces, is notable?

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

His idiot supporters who, when someone RIGHTLY points out Paul's position on the war, calls him a supporter of terrorists.

Here are the facts:

The ruling Islamic Theocracy of Iraq (which defines Christianity as a Second-Class Religion) is dominated by the psychopathic gang of murderers known as the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (SCIRI) and the Islamic Al Dawa Party, who are the very same Islamic Terrorist Parties which bombed the US & French Embassies in Kuwait, and murdered 241 United States Marines in Beirut in 1983. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, of the Al Dawa Party, was the Bureau Chief of the Al Dawa Party's terrorist "Jihad Office" in Damascus in the 1980s and was thus heavily responsible for Al Dawa operations in Beirut, while parliament member Jamal Jafaar Mohammed of his ruling coalition is one of the "Kuwait 17", still under a Kuwaiti death sentence (in absentia) for his direct involvement in the vicious attack on the US Embassy in Kuwait!

So, tell me -- WHY do you believe that the US Federal Government should give Military and Financial support to these Terrorist Scumbags?

Why is it that you support these American-Murdering Terrorists, Wolf?

Please do explain.

[Darkwolf377]

You began your entire argument on this thread with a puerile "Appeal to Ridicule" Logical Fallacy.

Someone's read a couple of big words.

No--I began by telling the truth about your candidate. Your attempts to pretend you know big words (you're misusing them, too, btw) only make you look really, really silly.

You can't handle debate without quotes and typographic silliness, and you call people who point out Paul's position terrorist supporters. Go back to watching your cartoons, Bircher.

[Lovebloggers]

I read that article. Nice cherry picking.

“We-e-ell. We all have nits to pick, though we wouldn’t all pick the same ones. The gold standard? Wasn’t it going off the gold standard that gave us full control over the wilder swings of the business cycle? Which was, like, a good idea? I am by no means as willing to surrender to the collective wisdom of modern economists as Bryan Caplan wants me to be, but — the gold standard? Come on. And stopping the War on Drugs? Where would that take us? — Philip Morris brands of crack cocaine available over the counter at Walgreens? You pick your own nits.”

.....

“Imagine, for example, President Ron II trying to push his bill to abolish the IRS through Congress. Congress! — whose members eat, drink, breathe and live for the wrinkles they can add to the tax code on behalf of their favored interest groups! Or imagine him trying to kick the U.N. parasites out of our country. Think of the howls of outrage on behalf of suffering humanity from all the lefty academics, MSM bleeding hearts, love-the-world flower children, Eleanor Roosevelt worshippers, and bureaucratic globalizers!

Ain’t gonna happen. It was, after all, a conservative who said that politics is the art of the possible. Ron Paul is not possible. His candidacy belongs to the realm of dreams, not practical politics. But, oh, what sweet dreams!

Reality. Keep throwing your support behind candidates and platforms who don’t have a snowball’s chance of winning anything. Then complain how the Republican party left you because they can’t get anything done. How many times have we heard “grow a pair” with regard to GWB? please.

Ronnie Reagan understood and excelled at the art of political compromise. It sucks, but it is the only way things will get done. Abolishing the DOE and IRS is just never going to happen. I hope you understand that

[thepresidentsbestfriend]

I notice your name, Orthodox Presbyterian.

I was raised in such a Church, and I was on the wrong path until I became a Pentecostal...

The Presbyterian Church that I am familiar with, are for abortion/homosexuality, not to mention that they simply failed to actually invite Jesus into their lives. This was my experience with the Presbs.

[LibLieSlayer]

As always... you are the BEST!

LLS

[Chi-townChief]

I'm still waiting for some eleaboration on "Ron Paul believes in Christian Just War Theory", Paul's comments on this as well as the Presbyterian position.

[Cyclops08]

“...you may want to consider that military personnel and their families are just voting with their donations.”

Or it could be that other candidates don’t count military donation separately from other donations.

Personally, I believe its an outright lie. Ron Paul polls at the bottom of every poll ever taken anywhere. The big babies who support him, seem to overlook the logical quandry thus presented: If RP polls at the bottom, why would he be first in military support?
The answer is obvious, RP is NOT first...this is a lie.

[leadpenny]

I’d think the spouse could use the servicemember’s name and rank if it’s a joint account. But, I don’t know. I haven’t donated to a political candidate since Lazio ran against Hillary.

[Lovebloggers]

They most certainly cannot do that. Where it states “occupation” it means the party contributing.

[Cyclops08]

“I’m still waiting for some elaboration on “Ron Paul believes in Christian Just War Theory”, Paul’s comments on this as well as the Presbyterian position.”

I can help you there. It means that Ron Paul will NOT defend this country. Nor will he uphold our military alliances. In short, Ron Paul will stab our friends in the back, and support our enemies. He will do NOTHING in Iran and sit idly by while Israel is nuked.

[leadpenny]

“...this is a lie.”

Again, you don’t know that, and name calling those who support RP is childish.

[ChessExpert]

Have to give Ron Paul his proper dues (props?) on this one.

[leadpenny]

I’ll take your word for it but I’m sure there are ways to get around it, especially over the phone or on the internet.