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Regarding Bill O'Reilly's attacks on FR: The best defense is a good offense
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Posted on 08/02/2007 3:20:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Edited on 08/02/2007 3:29:30 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Hey, Bill!

You've got a tough job up there in the clouds riding herd over the folks. Apparently you're having problems with the folks speaking out against the America hating left. But that's ok. Just keep your eyes closed, ears plugged and your jaws flapping. Eventually the folks will tune you out and we'll all be better off for it.

FReepers:

We're taking flak so we know we're over the target. Fire at will! Fire for effect!


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"Pass me the loofah."

81 posted on 08/02/2007 4:03:44 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Jim Robinson
Just wanted to follow up on Larry Lucidos' comment.

Presidential candidate Barack Obama,wannabe CIC,who wants to invade a ally,says flak is spelled ‘flack’;)

P.S.,bill,here at FR we NEVER FORGET anything.

82 posted on 08/02/2007 4:03:58 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free)
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To: Chani

self ping..not afraid of going blind


83 posted on 08/02/2007 4:06:33 PM PDT by Chani (Happy cows make good cheese.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bill had to pick somebody to counter his “fair and balance” motto when he was after Nasty kos, unfortunely he did not do his “due diligence” before he attacked Free Republic because if he had, he would see that we are NOT a right wing hate site” as he claims, we are just very conservative and stick to our principles as evidenced by our outrage against George Bush for what he did to the country on the immigration issue. If Bill had actually taken some time (a week would suffice) and hung out here like Rush does, I guarantee you that he would now be chastising the producer (or whoever it was) that fed him this fase information about Free Republic being a “right wing hate site”. Like and old hero of mine once said “trust but verify”....Bill O’Reilly has been had.

Semper Fi’
Jarhead


84 posted on 08/02/2007 4:07:01 PM PDT by Buffettfan (3rd Battalion, 6th Marines - 1971 - 1974)
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To: Lancey Howard
O’Reilly should wear a red nose and clown suit besides being Amerika’s Minister Of Disinformation and Moral Indignation, he’s the only ‘entertainer’ who reports ‘news’ using body language babes, and don’t get me started on his ‘pop culture’ quizzes.
85 posted on 08/02/2007 4:07:55 PM PDT by dgallo51 (DEMAND IMMEDIATE, OPEN INVESTIGATIONS OF U.S. COMPLICITY IN RWANDAN GENOCIDE!)
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To: Mr. K
O’Reilly is just making the same mistake a lot of (bad) journalists make- relying on what he has heard about FR and not his own research.

O'Reilly doesn't research much of anything that he reports/bloviates/pontificates about. Whenever Medea Benjamin or any other Code Pink traitors is on the show with him, he tosses marshmallow questions at them.

Either he is supremely stupid, supremely ill-informed, supremely ill-prepared or he is thinking about how he can hit on the Pinko broads.

86 posted on 08/02/2007 4:08:04 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: Jim Robinson
You know, Jim, I have a hunch that we're going to be here long after O'Reilly is manning a news anchor desk for the Public Television station in Fargo, North Dakota. OK, assistant anchor.

It really isn't all that difficult to check into FR and O'Reilly hasn't done it, and all the blowhard nonsense he can spout can't cover the fact. Not sure he'd do all that well here.

87 posted on 08/02/2007 4:08:16 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Jim Robinson; JeanS; smithone; All
Transcript From the July 31 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

"From the July 31 edition of Fox News' The O'Reilly Factor:

O'REILLY: In the "Impact" segment tonight, as we've been reporting, the hate website Daily Kos has intimidated the Democratic presidential candidates with the exception of Senator Biden. So they are speaking at the Kos convention this coming weekend. There's no question that the most vile stuff imaginable is posted on this hate site and others like it.

Now, some on the left justify the garbage by pointing to right-wing websites like FreeRepublic.com, whose postings can get nasty as well.

With us now in the studio -- former Democratic Congressman Harold Ford Jr., now a Fox News analyst, and from Washington, Kristinn Taylor, a spokesperson for the Free Republic.

Mr. Taylor, I have to say, you know, we pulled a bunch of stuff off your website today and it's pretty vile; it's pretty awful. You've got some pretty sick people posting -- a couple of examples: "Homosexuals are dogs." "I hate blacks." "Hillary Clinton should be assassinated." "A stray bullet should kill her" -- and on and on and on.

TAYLOR: Well, Bill, all those things --

O'REILLY: You know, this is all on your website today.

TAYLOR: Well, all those things that you said violate our posting guidelines, and if we find them, we will remove them. That's not what we're about.

O'REILLY: What do you mean, if we find them?

TAYLOR: If we find them. We --

O'REILLY: This is what I don't understand. I found them, and it wasn't hard. And I went back and we did a trace just on me and some of the stuff that has been posted about me on your website, and it's just unbelievable. But when you say, "if we find them," shouldn't there be somebody there supervising this website?

TAYLOR: We do have volunteer moderators.

O'REILLY: Volunteer.

TAYLOR: However, now, there are thousands upon thousands of comments that are posted to the site every day. We don't exercise prior restraint. We rely on the good sense of people that are posting there, and 99 percent of them are good people who stay within our guidelines.

O'REILLY: OK.

TAYLOR: You also have people that come on the site deliberately to post things to make the site look bad.

O'REILLY: That's right.

TAYLOR: We used to have people that would post hardcore pornography pictures.

O'REILLY: But here -- let me give you -- let me give you some advice. That's the same argument that the left-wing Nazi hate sites make -- that it's not really them; it's others. Don't you have an obligation to the country to have not volunteers, but to have a professional person sit there and enforce some kind of standards for your website?

TAYLOR: It costs money, Bill. It costs money. Free Republic operates on donations.

O'REILLY: You got a lot people -- you know what? I bet you if you asked for donations for that, you would be able -- because as you said, most people are good people who come in. They would give you money so that they wouldn't have to be besmirched by these sick people. And they're sick.

But you're right, a lot of it's planted. And a lot of it is just crazy people who are surfing. But I believe you have an obligation, Mr. Taylor, to clean this thing up. It doesn't do you any good, because that's what they seize on.

TAYLOR: We do. I agree with you, Bill, and whenever we find it -- if I find it -- I report it to our moderators and they take care of it.

O'REILLY: All right. Well, you should do a better job because just today this is vile, hateful stuff.

Now, Harold Ford Jr. was the subject of some of this when you ran the last time around. But I have to say, and this is absolutely my opinion, I looked at Free Republic and I looked at Daily Kos, and Daily Kos is far worse. They revel in this kind of stuff.

The cartoon last night we showed of President Bush and Joseph Lieberman -- way beyond anything of free speech. It's hate. It's hate.

Now, you as an African-American, and you as somebody who's been subjected to hate, I mean, why aren't the Democrats distancing themselves from this?

FORD: Well, let me be clear. I'm not here to represent Daily Kos or Free Republic. I'm a believer and a supporter of free speech.

Nonetheless, there comes a time in political debate when one would hope it would be elevated to discussing the big, big issues. I'm the chair of a group called the Democratic Leadership Council. We've been subjected to untrue and awful and malicious things by a number of different websites.

We just continue to move forward and trek ahead. I do think that there's a lot to be said for providing resources and people who support these sites, the good people who may believe in -- what I don't understand is what Free Republic, frankly, believes in, because if you feel comfortable enough to post "I hate blacks" on a website -- you don't find people posting that on a Fox News website. So, there must --

O'REILLY: No, you don't, because we have standards. And that's what I told Mr. Taylor, that he's got to be more vigilant and hire somebody professionally to regulate it......"

What O'Reilly said relative to the links provided by his producer are not mere mischaracterizations, they are out and out lies. Nothing in the bold was an accurate description of the posts here.

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Links provided by O'Reilly Factor Producer

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O'Reilly Factor Provides Free Republic Offending Comments Links

I received an e-mail today from the Fox News producer who booked me for the O'Reilly Factor last night. The links have been forwarded to Jim Robinson for review.

Jim asked me to start a thread with the links so that Freepers, and everyone else, could see for themselves what the fuss is about.

The Hillary Clinton stray bullet assassination comment was a very bad joke comment that someone posted two days ago. It was flagged last night after the O'Reilly Factor broadcast and was removed by a moderator. It is available for the time being in Google cache:

To: Virginia Ridgerunner I like my scenario better:

After eight years of the economy faltering, interest rates are 19%, 900,000 people are dead in Iraq since we left, taxes have gone up by 60% and Chile, Bolivia and Columbia are now Communist regimes, a stray bullet at a NARAL rally catches President Clinton and kills her.

As they take away Cindy Sheehan she screams why did she have to remove the troops? We were winning.

The next day the dow goes up 2000 points and closes at 2150.

4 posted on 07/30/2007 11:00:43 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The Democrat Party: "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal then others.")

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Don't even bother trying to defend that one. Assassination jokes have no place on Free Republic. Yes, Cindy Sheehan has written of her fantasizies about killing President Bush--and she's not joking, but that's her problem. We're better than that.

The "homosexuals are dogs" comment is taken out of context. The actual quote is "Homosexuals are the modern day dogs in the manger." That was in reference to an article about proprieters in the U.K. not being allowed to deny hotel accomodations to homosexual couples on account of religious belief.

The American Heritage online dictionary gives this description for the phrase: dog in the manger, NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. dogs in the manger. One who prevents others from enjoying what one has no use for oneself. ETYMOLOGY: From a fable in which a dog prevented an ox from eating hay he did not want himself.

That comment was posted two days ago and has also been removed by the moderators. It is available for now in Google cache.

The "I hate blacks" comment was nowhere to be found in the other threads referenced.

The threads are about crime in the black community, gangsta culture and Jesse Jackson. Two of the threads are in the Smoky Backroom.

Homosexuals+are+the+modern-day+dogs+in+the+manger

Time for the Truth About Black Crime Rates

Jesse Jackson interview about Imus

Sagging Pants May Have Contributed To Fatal Shooting

stray+bullet+at+a+NARAL+rally+catches+President

88 posted on 08/02/2007 4:09:03 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Jim Robinson

I have a confession to make...

I have NEVER liked that man. He comes off as a phony, and there has been much controversy regarding the possibility of him being a pervert. Why would I take my news and/or opinion from such a person?

There, I said it, and I feel better.


90 posted on 08/02/2007 4:10:07 PM PDT by papasmurf (<<<<< Click there to see my dogs! Oh, and I have FRed one liners, too.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I tuned him out some time ago.


91 posted on 08/02/2007 4:11:17 PM PDT by DejaJude
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To: mkjessup
Yup it has. Worth posting every day
92 posted on 08/02/2007 4:11:47 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: y'all
I'm afraid many do not realize how much more important BOR is than you and I. Just ask him. I mean he does talk for a living and we merely have jobs in industries such as health care, engineering, hi-tech careers, running small businesses, the countless military service men and women...the list is endless.

So when he deems your expressions against the ruling elite and liberal left as "hate speech," don’t forget that he knows best—he’s a talker. Oh, he likes to blab on the telephone too, I understand.

93 posted on 08/02/2007 4:12:30 PM PDT by Dysart
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To: doorgunner69

Hey don’t forget he also thought Peter Jennings was a great guy.


94 posted on 08/02/2007 4:14:07 PM PDT by Plains Drifter (If guns kill people, wouldn't there be a lot of dead people at gun shows?)
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To: Larry Lucido
(And who is Will?)

Well, according to Wikipedia, Bill O'Reilly's legal name is William...

LOL!

95 posted on 08/02/2007 4:14:11 PM PDT by tgslTakoma
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To: period end of story
As far as I can tell MM seems to have nothing but paid staffers posting on their site.

Then you can't "see" very "far," evidently. I post there, and am not paid anything to do so.

96 posted on 08/02/2007 4:14:21 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("Proudly keeping one iron boot on the necks of libertarian faux 'conservatives' since 1958!")
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To: Jim Robinson

Go Jimbo Go....

Does he even have a radio show anymore? It got pulled in the S.F. Market (of course they had him on opposite Rush, who leads the time slot even in THIS cesspool of socialism.


97 posted on 08/02/2007 4:15:08 PM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Bill O’Reilly

Haranguing the right just to be "Fair and Balanced" to the left.

98 posted on 08/02/2007 4:16:23 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: Jim Robinson

Bill O’Reilly has just demonstrated that the MSM doesn’t like what FR does and will do what they can, no matter how dishonest and underhanded, to attain/retain their superiority. The FR has displayed over and over again that the material presented by the MSM needs policing more so than this website, which can be policed by itself with dialog that the MSM outlets do not have. MSM articles and news from TV have no balance and with which no one to answer. The FR allows the public to challenge the veracity and truth of news from the MSM sources...which they obviously do not like. Bill O’Reilly has just with his act vindicated the fact that he is not fair and balanced and just another member of the slanted MSM.


99 posted on 08/02/2007 4:17:23 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Jim Robinson
O’Reilly only skims the surface of the real issues happening around America. We in the Northwest have a true hero in the sex predator problem hitting our communities. He is my friend and neighbor, Anatoly Kalchik, the uncle to the 12-year old Zinna Linnik who was raped and murdered on the 4th of July. He is working to change things. You would think that O’Reilly, the self-claimed crusader of Jessica’s Law, would have Anotoly Kalchik on his show. Instead, we saw Michelle Malkin defending Kalchik for Geraldo’s falsehoods against him. O’Reilly has yet to have Kalchik appear.

This case has much to do with U.S. Immigration policy. As we become flooded with cultures from all over the world, our public safety is being threatened. The Seattle Post-Intelligencer reported: “Zina’s uncle was angry that the suspect had not been deported after being convicted in a sex crime. “We are all immigrants, but we come legally,” Anatoly Kalchik said of his family. He added that the adults all cleared a criminal background check. ‘If someone is a sex offender, or any kind of offender, he has no business being in America,’ he said.”

O’Reilly appears like one that goes around stirring the pot and not seeking real change—the heat of the kitchen thing. In fact, O'Reilly would be one to say that this sex predator problem is an example of a need for more control of the Internet. I hope O'Reilly's interns read this post instead of the altered state in the dark side: the Daily Kos.

100 posted on 08/02/2007 4:18:42 PM PDT by jonrick46
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