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Russian sub plants flag under North Pole
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Posted on 08/02/2007 6:52:18 AM PDT by nuconvert

Russian sub plants flag under North Pole

By Guy Faulconbridge

Russian explorers dived deep below the North Pole in a submersible on Thursday and planted a national flag on the seabed to stake a symbolic claim to the energy riches of the Arctic.

A mechanical arm dropped a specially made rust-proof titanium flag onto the Arctic seabed at a depth of 4,261 meters (13,980 ft), Itar-Tass news agency quoted expedition officials as saying.

Russia wants to extend right up to the North Pole the territory it controls in the Arctic, believed to hold vast reserves of untapped oil and natural gas.

But Canada mocked Russia's ambitions and said the expedition was nothing more than a show.

"This isn't the 15th century. You can't go around the world and just plant flags and say 'We're claiming this territory'," Canadian Foreign Minister Peter MacKay told CTV television.

Under international law, the five states with territory inside the Arctic Circle -- Canada, Norway, Russia, the United States and Denmark via its control of Greenland -- have a 320 km (200 mile) economic zone around the north of their coastline.

Russia is claiming a larger slice extending as far as the pole because, Moscow says, the Arctic seabed and Siberia are linked by one continental shelf.

"Then Russia can give foundation to its claim to more than a million square kilometers of the oceanic shelf," said a newsreader for Russia's state news channel Vesti-24, which made the expedition their top news story.

"It was a soft landing," Tass quoted expedition leader Artur Chilingarov as saying from on board one of the submersibles.

The rest of the expedition team, floating on a support vessel between the giant ice sheets of the Arctic, broke into applause when news came through the mission had been completed.

"There is yellowish gravel down here. No creatures of the deep are visible," said Chilingarov, 67, a veteran Arctic explorer and parliament deputy for the pro-Kremlin party.

ARCTIC ADVENTURE

Expedition leaders have said their main worry is to resurface at the ice hole where they dived as the mini-submersibles are not strong enough to break through the North Pole's deep ice cap.

One of the aims of the expedition is to allow oceanographers to study the seabed and establish that Russia and the North Pole are part of the same shelf.

"The aim of this expedition is not to stake Russia's claim but to show that our shelf reaches to the North Pole," Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters in Manila, where he is attending a regional security conference.

The Mir-1 submersible reached the seabed at 1208 Moscow time (4:08 a.m. EDT).

A second Russian submersible, manned by Swedish businessman Frederik Paulsen and Australian adventurer Mike McDowell, reached the seabed 27 minutes later. It reached a depth of 4,302 meters.

Soviet and U.S. nuclear submarines have often traveled under the polar icecap, but no one had reached the seabed under the Pole, where depths exceed 4,000 meters (13,100 feet).

(Additional reporting by Christian Lowe in Moscow and David Ljunggren in Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada)


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: arcticcircle; canada; energy; environment; geopolitics; northpole; russia
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1 posted on 08/02/2007 6:52:20 AM PDT by nuconvert
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To: nuconvert

I guess is ours, then.


2 posted on 08/02/2007 6:53:48 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: nuconvert

I guess the MOON is ours, then.


3 posted on 08/02/2007 6:54:03 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: nuconvert

Let the Russians have it — we have too many environmental kooks to ever be able to get at the resources anyway.


4 posted on 08/02/2007 6:54:50 AM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: CodeToad

lol. Don’t you hate when your brain works faster than your fingers?


5 posted on 08/02/2007 6:55:40 AM PDT by nuconvert ([there are bad people in the pistachio business] (...but his head is so tiny...))
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To: CodeToad
We owned the Arctic as of 1955, then.
6 posted on 08/02/2007 6:56:08 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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7 posted on 08/02/2007 6:57:08 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: nuconvert
If they can patrol it and develop the resources there, then I don't see why their claim shouldn't be valid.

If they are just going to make a symbolic claim so they can try and get others who develop the resources to pay them money, then the claim should be ignored.

He who invests the resources to secure those resources and develop them should reap the benefits.

8 posted on 08/02/2007 6:59:47 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: nuconvert

I hope there’s video soon, part of me wonders if they’re just making all this up.


9 posted on 08/02/2007 7:00:11 AM PDT by mutley
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To: mutley; tx_eggman

you DO realize all the hundreds of square miles of endangered polar bear habitat that were destroyed by their ice-breakers to reach the pole, don’t you?!?!

Where’s the outcry!


10 posted on 08/02/2007 7:02:57 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (Islam... if ya can't join 'em, beat 'em.)
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To: nuconvert

bump


11 posted on 08/02/2007 7:07:50 AM PDT by fso301
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To: SpinnerWebb
you DO realize all the hundreds of square miles of endangered polar bear habitat that were destroyed by their ice-breakers to reach the pole, don’t you?!?!Where’s the outcry!

We're all doomed by global warming anyway, so why get upset about a little hastening.
12 posted on 08/02/2007 7:08:30 AM PDT by mutley
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To: Bushwacker777
Let the Russians have it — we have too many environmental kooks to ever be able to get at the resources anyway

Surely the kooks will be up in arms about Russia's plans to exploit that pristine area of the globe.

13 posted on 08/02/2007 7:08:38 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: nuconvert
I would think that a person would actually have to set foot on the place to plant their flag...........Okay, Ivan, you get out there and plant the flag...........
14 posted on 08/02/2007 7:11:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: mutley

I can see the video now. They had a robot post a flag on the National Geographic plate on the ocean floor that says “North Pole Here.”


15 posted on 08/02/2007 7:13:18 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (I am not from Vermont. I lived there for four years and that was enough.)
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To: nuconvert

so did they open up the hatch while underwater to plant the flag? and did they stick it upside down into the bottom of the ice?


16 posted on 08/02/2007 7:18:23 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (CLYBURN: Well, that would be a real big problem for us, no question about that.)
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To: Bushwacker777

In the fight between Soviet whalers and Greenpeace, where Greenpeace would use boats to get in front of whales, weren’t the Russians shooting harpoons anyhow, as well as water and steam hoses? I suspect that Putin holds anti-Russian Leftist protesters in low regard.


17 posted on 08/02/2007 7:18:43 AM PDT by jonascord (Hurray! for the Bonny Blue Flag that bears the Single Star!)
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To: CodeToad
I guess the MOON is ours, then.

No oil.

18 posted on 08/02/2007 7:19:21 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: nuconvert

All of your poles are belong to us!


19 posted on 08/02/2007 7:25:39 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Lazamataz
I guess the MOON is ours, then.

No oil.

Lots of Helium 3, Oxygen, Titanium, Aluminum and lots of solar energy - even better than oil.

20 posted on 08/02/2007 7:35:28 AM PDT by anymouse
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