Posted on 08/01/2007 10:56:57 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson
Mark Eichenlaub interview with LT Buzz Patterson
“al-Qaeda #2 Ayman al-Zawahiri’s trip to Baghdad in 1998 (in which he received $300,000, possibly from Saddam Hussein himself), Abu Musab al-Zarqawi’s medical trip to Baghdad in 2002 and the terrorist training that took place in the Salman Pak camp.”
Dr. Mylroie received her Ph.D. in Political Science from Harvard University and her B.A. from Cornell. She was an Assistant Professor in Harvard's Political Science Department, before becoming an Associate Professor in the Strategy Department at the U.S. Naval War College. Subsequently, she was a member of the staff of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. She also served as advisor on Iraq to the 1992 Clinton presidential campaign and has worked as a consultant on terrorism to the Departments of Defense and Energy; ABC News, the BBC, and Newsweek; as well as several law offices. She is presently an adjunct fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and publisher of Iraq News.
911 commission
Statement of Laurie Mylroie to the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States July 9, 2003
"Following the 9/11 attacks, there was much speculation about Iraq's possible role. I won't address those points, although some information, like the claim of two Iraqi defectors that Iraqi intelligence trained non-Iraqi Arab militants to hijack airplanes at Salman Pak deserves more attention than it has received. That is particularly so, because when U.S. Marines took Salman Pak, they captured such individuals and learned from the interrogations that they were training as terrorists."
Mansoor Ijaz
Mansoor appears regularly on a variety of financial and political news programs for CNN, CNNI, Fox News, BBC, Germany’s ARD TV, Japan’s NHK, ABC and NBC. He has commented for PBS’ Newshour with Jim Lehrer and ABC News Nightline with Ted Koppel. Ijaz has been featured twice in BARRON'S Currency Roundtable discussions. He has also contributed to the editorial pages of London’s Financial Times, The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Los Angeles Times, The Washington Post, The International Herald Tribune, Newsweek International, The Christian Science Monitor, The Weekly Standard, National Review, USA Today and the Times of India.
As a private American citizen, Ijaz negotiated Sudan's counterterrorism offer to the Clinton administration in April 1997 which was an attempt to broker a hand-over of Osama bin Laden from the government of the Sudan to the U.S.
Mansoor Ijaz #2
Fox News Special Report with Brit Hume The Connection Between 9/11 and Iraq Thursday, September 11, 2003
HUME: Well, certainly that makes pretty good circumstantial evidence on the attacks on those embassies. And it does suggest from what you have said that there have been contacts at a high level, important level, between al Qaeda and the Iraqi regime of Saddam Hussein. But what about something that would suggest a connection to 9-11, is there evidence there of any consequence?
IJAZ: Absolutely, and now let's take it a step further after the 1998 bombings. We then know there was a training camp called Salman Pak, which we've been able to identify the aircraft that they trained, the hijackers on. We've been able to identify other contacts between Iraqi intelligence services and directly with the 9-11 hijackers.
People would love to shove that evidence under the carpet, but the fact of the matter is that the meetings did take place, planning was going on. The Iraqi diplomatic pouch was the tool of choice to pass al Qaeda's messages around the world in different parts of the world.
PBS Gunning for Saddam
PBS Gunning for Saddam Sabah Khodada interview
A captain in the Iraqi army from 1982 to 1992, he worked at what he describes as a highly secret terrorist training camp at Salman Pak, an area south of Baghdad.
So did you find out what kind of training was going on?
I don't necessarily know what kind of training they do, but they were trained exactly at the same locations, and they were trained by the same teachers who were training ... [the fighters for] Saddam. Training includes hijacking and kidnapping of airplanes, trains, public buses, and planting explosives in cities, sabotaging villages, sabotaging houses, assassinations.
And the training also included how to prepare for suicidal operations. For example, they will train them how to belt themselves around with explosives, and jump in a place and explode themselves out as part of the suicidal training. I think the trainings of the Arabs was much harsher, and much stricter, than the training of the Iraqis.
Crude Drawing from Sabah Khodada
Here is the Satalite photo of Salman Pak
Who was eager to debunk Salman Pak?
The answer is Saddam loving Scott Ritter
In a BBC article Monday, 9 September, 2002, 23:23 GMT 00:23 UK titled
Reporters visit suspect Iraqi sites
“He said there was obviously no terrorism training taking place there - a site he said the US was ready to go to war for.
"If there is a time and a place to go to war I will be there," he said.
"But I am not going to go to war based on a fabrication, especially from politically motivated Iraqi defectors who intend to misuse the tragedy of 11 September by saying somehow those who perpetrated that crime were trained here."
The former UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter accompanied the journalists to Salman Pak.
Let us not forget Scott Ritter who produced the now infamous "documentary" favorable to Saddam.
He was funded by $ 400,000 from a Detroit area arab businessman who was the recipient of some of Saddam's OFF siphon money. U.N. Oil For Food
U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Vincent Brooks
April 7, 2003, 12:48AM
Marines find site of terror training
U.S. forces earlier had captured Syrians, Egyptians and Sudanese who said they had trained in the Salman Pak camp southeast of Baghdad.
Brig.-Gen. Vincent Brooks said Marines raided the empty complex using information obtained from captured foreign fighters. It "reinforces the likelihood of links between this regime and external terrorist organizations,"
Iraq Survey Group
Iraq Survey Group final report M14, Directorate of Special Operations
Richard O. Spertzel member of the Iraq Survey Group
“HAVE WAR CRITICS EVEN READ THE DUELFER REPORT?”
“It is asserted that Iraq was not supporting terrorists. Really? Documentation indicates that Iraq was training non-Iraqis at Salman Pak in terrorist techniques, including assassination and suicide bombing. In addition to Iraqis, trainees included Palestinians, Yemenis, Saudis, Lebanese, Egyptians and Sudanese.”
Richard O. Spertzel member of the Iraq Survey Group
CIA Director George Tenet
CIA Director George Tenet told the Senate Intelligence Committee: "Iraq has in the past provided training in document-forgery and bomb-making to al Qaeda. It also provided training in poisons and gasses to two al Qaeda associates; one of these [al Qaeda] associates characterized the relationship as successful. . . . This information is based on a solid foundation of intelligence. It comes to us from credible and reliable sources. Much of it is corroborated by multiple sources."
U.S. Department of State website
The Iraqi regime has also long conducted an active program of terrorist training and organization — much of it based around an area known as Salman Pak. Moreover, strong evidence suggests that al Qaeda terrorists escaping from Afghanistan have found refuge inside Iraq.
Question to Vice President Dick Cheney about Salman Pak during an interview with NBC's Meet the Press Tim Russert, December 9, 2001
“And this from James Woolsey, former CIA director: 'We know that at Salman Pak, on the southern edge of Baghdad, five different eyewitnesses -- three Iraqi defectors and two American U.N. inspectors have said, and now there are aerial photographs to show it -- a Boeing 707 that was used for training of hijackers, including non-Iraqi hijackers trained very secretly to take over airplanes with knives.' And we have photographs. As you can see that little white speck -- and there it is, the plane on the ground in Iraq used to train non-Iraqi hijackers. Do you still believe there's no evidence that Iraq was involved in September 11?"
White House website
“Former Iraqi military officers have described a highly secret terrorist training facility in Iraq known as Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi Arabs receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in cities, sabotage, and assassinations.”
Joseph Shahda Patriotic translator that worked on the Docex project
Docex Project- millions of captured documents that had sat deep within a warehouse. These documents have shed light on links between Saddam and Al Qaeda. They were originally headquartered in Doha, Qatar. Released by John Negroponte for volunteers to translate.
Page 3 Translation from captured Iraqi document ISGZ-2004-031613.pdf
In The Name of God the Most Merciful The Most Compassionate
Directory of General Security
Directory of Security Ninevah Province
No: 10106
Directory of General Security/ Director Section 1
Subject: Information
Date: 24/8/2002
The confident (1253) declared the following:
1.On 21/8/2002 an American delegation who is visiting the Northern Region has paid a visit to the headquarters of the Iraqi communist party in Shaklawa. The representative of the communist party made presentation accusing the Iraqi government of hiding members of Al Qaeda organization in the region of Salman Pak in addition to members of the Turkish Workers party and the Iranian Moujahidee Khlak and that they are trained to use chemical weapons and that Iraq will use them in case there is military strike directed against it.
End of translation.
The confident means the agent source that the Iraqi intelligence is using and his is identified only by his number 1253.
Excellent, and I will be very happy to supply the translated Iraqi documents related to this issue.
bttt
I’ll have to check it out. I’ve been following Salman Pak for many years, and am puzzled as to why so few talk about it. I was starting to believe that it was an anti-terrorist training camp....
It seems to be the very first and only video on youtube strictly devoted to the Salman Pak terrorist traing camp in Iraq.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong
There was a lot of politics involved in the wording of that report leaving many confused.
Scott Ritter was one of the people involved in producing an argument that Saddam was only using that camp as counterterrorism .
Bump
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock040703.asp
Deroy Murdock
April 7, 2003, 12:00 p.m.
At Salman Pak
Iraq’s terror ties.
“The AP’s Ravi Nessman added: “The passenger plane’s sun-bleached fuselage lay alone in a large, barren field. A fire engine sat at one intersection. Elsewhere, the twisted metal wreck of a double-decker bus stood near three decrepit green and red train cars.” These latter details bolster charges that Salman Pak also showed terrorists how to seize buses and trains.”
Original story
http://www.semissourian.com/story/print/105991.html
Marines capture suspected Iraqi terror training camp
Monday, April 7, 2003
By Ravi Nessman, The Associated Press
Apparently Salman Pak was one of three training camps in Iraq.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/006/550kmbzd.asp
Saddam’s Terror Training Camps
What the documents captured from the former Iraqi regime reveal—and why they should all be made public.
by Stephen F. Hayes
01/16/2006, Volume 011, Issue 17
The secret training took place primarily at three camps—in Samarra, Ramadi, and Salman Pak—and was directed by elite Iraqi military units. Interviews by U.S. government interrogators with Iraqi regime officials and military leaders corroborate the documentary evidence. Many of the fighters were drawn from terrorist groups in northern Africa with close ties to al Qaeda, chief among them Algeria’s GSPC and the Sudanese Islamic Army. Some 2,000 terrorists were trained at these Iraqi camps each year from 1999 to 2002, putting the total number at or above 8,000. Intelligence officials believe that some of these terrorists returned to Iraq and are responsible for attacks against Americans and Iraqis. According to three officials with knowledge of the intelligence on Iraqi training camps, White House and National Security Council officials were briefed on these findings in May 2005; senior Defense Department officials subsequently received the same briefing.
The photographs and documents on Iraqi training camps come from a collection of some 2 million “exploitable items” captured in postwar Iraq and Afghanistan. They include handwritten notes, typed documents, audiotapes, videotapes, compact discs, floppy discs, and computer hard drives. Taken together, this collection could give U.S.
intelligence officials and policymakers an inside look at the activities of the former Iraqi regime in the months and years before the Iraq war.
The discovery of the information on jihadist training camps in Iraq would seem to have two major consequences: It exposes the flawed assumptions of the experts and U.S. intelligence officials who told us for years that a secularist like Saddam Hussein would never work with Islamic radicals, any more than such jihadists would work with an infidel like the Iraqi dictator. It also reminds us that valuable information remains buried in the mountain of documents recovered in Afghanistan and Iraq over the past four years.
What was the name of the Iraqi general that met Attah at the airport in Czechoslovakia in 2000? I have seen the video, but forget his name.
Where did Ramsey Usef get his explosives training, and what passport did he carry? Iraq(i) I believe.
Who did Terry Nichols meet in Manila in 1993? Usef?
Who is John Doe number 2 who's drawing looks like Jose Padillia?
Where are all the Iraqis who lived in Oklahoma City in 1995 now?
Where did the U.S. finally stash that 2.1 metric tons of uranium hexafluoride they flew out of Iraq on July 17 2003?
Why is Scott Ritter not in jail for being a sexual predator?
I have more, but I've got to go take a shower now...
5.56mm
I am having a hard enough time presenting people with information and getting them to understand Saddams terrorist connections. I do remember on Fox News reports of Terry Nichols visiting Yemen and questions about why he went.
Time will sort things out
I did not see the name of the others terrorist training camps in the Iraqi documents that I read, however three documents clearly talked about the training of the "Arab Feedayeens" who are the foreign Arab terrorists.
Document: Saddam Regime Training and Using Foreign Arab Terrorists As Suicide Bombers. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1600367/posts
2003 Document: Saddam Ordered To Treat The Arab Feedayeen Terrorists The Same As Iraqi Soldiers http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1618519/posts
Document: Iraqi Intelligence To Train Arab Feedayeen Terrorists In the Year 2000 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1617431/posts
I looked at eyespysomething’s last post. Looks like he was busy with his work.
I hope when he returns back we could still use his ping list.
I looked at eyespysomething’s last post. Looks like he was busy with his work.
I hope when he returns back we could still use his ping list.
I hope so. Eyespysomething is a “she” :)
Sorry eyespysomething
Joseph thank you for the correction
I feel like Chris Farley when doing the interviews on SNL
LOL... :)
Thank you so much for referencing Salman Pak which confirms that I was not insane after all. Something you might be interested in: I ended a 15 year stint as Scoutmaster of our small town Troop in Texas a couple of years ago. We averaged 15—22 boys Troop strength. We’ve had six former Scouts, four of which are Eagle Scouts, go into the Military since 9/11, ALL of the six have served a tour (sometimes two) in Iraq; three Marines, one Army (Infantry), one USAF (FAC, attached to the Army in Iraq during one tour) and one USCG. Our Airman (SSG) Coastie and Soldier (SSG—CIB) are still serving, the soldier still in Iraq (2nd deployment).
“My” three Marines were in the first push up through the East flank, fought at An-Nasariyah, well hell, all the way to Baghdad. ANYWAY, they shed a bit of light about Salman Pak, how ‘bout that? Love those boys, all of ‘em good to ride the river with, anywhere, anytime, they WILL watch your back I guarantee you.
No, the quality of young men (and young women, our little town was represented by a couple of outstanding young women within the Medical field—who also served in Iraq/Afghanistan) is SECOND TO NONE. They have shamed the COWARDS in Congress many times and I will continue singing their praises until my last breath. There, I feel better now! ...and thanks again!
We had many reasons for attacking Iraq. These have been laid out in Joint (House and Senate) Resolutions in 2002 and 1998(!). Terrorism was one reason. Saddam Hussein was into terorrism big time. The presence of a Boeing 707 used for high-jack training at Salman Pak should send shivers down the spine of anyone who reflects on the events of September 11th 2001. To top it off, Hussein had a connections to Al Qaeda. If that were not enough, our greatest adversary in Iraq today is “Al Qaeda in Iraq.” As President Bush recently said, it is the same Al Qaeda as attacked the United States on 9/11.
When I get home from work tonight I want to send you a link from another video Futuref22pilot and I worked on that in a way relates to your post.
Thank you for your kind words
There are parts of Europe that must really be sheltered from the news over in Iraq.
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