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NRO: Fusion Candidate (Ron Paul)
National Review Online ^ | August 01, 2007 | Todd Seavey

Posted on 08/01/2007 7:00:48 AM PDT by George W. Bush



Fusion Candidate


The congressman from Texas has something for all conservatives.

By Todd Seavey

John Derbyshire is wrong to resist the Ron Paul Temptation. Embrace it. Embrace it: conservatives, libertarians, pro-lifers…Right-minded Americans, all.

Sure, Paul, currently hovering in the single digits in polls, looks at first glance like a textbook case of a fringe candidate. And that’s unfortunate, because he ought instead to be our next president — and would be if he made it to the general election, since in a one-on-one match-up with likely Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, he could fare remarkably well.

That means Paul’s greatest obstacle is the Republican primary process. Since he wants to do virtually everything conservatives have long dreamed of with the office of the presidency, what’s stalling his chances is a herd-like desire to vote for the candidate who already seems likely to win the primaries. Democrats won’t keep him from the White House; it would be tragic, then, if Republicans stopped him themselves.

Recall, first, the big issue that likely cost the Republicans control of Congress in 2006 and turned George Bush into a lame duck: the Iraq War. Now, thanks largely to testy comments from his fellow candidate Rudy Giuliani, Paul is known as the sole antiwar Republican candidate. I realize how strongly many of his fellow Republicans disagree with him on that issue — I’m not as isolationist on military matters as Paul either (almost no one is) and have long hoped that the Iraq effort will turn out better than expected.

But it now appears that even the unambitious goal of stopping frequent bombings in Baghdad is proving to be, shall we all admit, tricky. And since the pro-war position is widely regarded as the thing dragging Republican congressional candidates down in ’06 and prospective Republican presidential candidates down in the polls for ’08, it would be a delightful turn if antiwar sentiment ended up redounding to the advantage of conservatives, in the form of Ron Paul’s election.

And think of the undeserved riches that would then be ours: Paul is an across-the-board libertarian on economic issues. He wants to abolish most Cabinet agencies (aside from State, Justice, and a radically whittled-down Defense). He has tried (unsuccessfully) to return the U.S. to the gold standard and has made clear his desire to dismantle the IRS immediately

And for those who say it can’t happen, here’s the beauty part: Get Paul through the primaries, to the Republican nomination, and he has the tools to take on Hillary. He plainly gets the libertarian swing voters that the Republicans lost in 2006, he should garner most conservative votes when contrasted with Hillary, and — here’s the clincher — he gets a huge share of the bourgeoning antiwar vote to boot. Think about it: Clinton has already alienated the substantial antiwar faction of the Democratic party, while Ron Paul has inspired a supportive banner even at an anarchist rally full of hippies and punks, urging people to join the Ron Paul “love revolution.”

But don’t let that fool you into thinking he’s some flower-child. A seventy-two-year-old conservative Texan, Ron Paul is also one of the most pro-life members of Congress, wants better border enforcement, and, as a doctor, prefers to allow the states to manage the war on drugs, rather than praising drugs, as some less cautious libertarians are prone to do.

Presto! The much-lamented divide between social conservatives and fiscal conservatives, which has seemed to be widening lately, is eliminated. As has oft been said, Republicans tend to fare best when they pursue the program (pioneered by National Review and praised last year by Ryan Sager in his book Elephant in the Room) called “fusionism,” yoking together social conservatism and the libertarian desire to shrink government. Both Giuliani and McCain, for example, have some fusionist qualities, sounding tough on military matters and fiscal matters — but no one’s more fusionist than a pro-lifer who genuinely wants to dismantle the entire welfare state. And if you’re nervous about Paul’s “going too far,” keep in mind the president only executes the laws — he doesn’t make them. There are limits to what even a president can do, but it’d sure be nice to have one pushing in a small-government conservative direction for the first time since Reagan, and arguably the first time since Coolidge.

Continuing conservative support for the Iraq war is certainly an issue (note that Paul voted for the Afghan war, so he’s not a complete pacifist), but surely it’s not the be-all and end-all of conservatism. As popular support for the war fades, and if we do not meet with the successes forecast by the architects of the “surge,” might not even the most pro-war conservatives be willing to budge a bit on that possibly doomed and politically damning issue? Hawks may be reluctant to shift, but for many conservatives it may well be worth it to have a president with true conservative values.

Do conservatives not really want all the things Paul has to offer? Then why do we fight at all? If it’s merely for power and mainstream acceptance, one might as well support Hillary Clinton or wait until after November 2008 and support whoever comes out on top. But if we want a radically smaller government — precisely that thing that a Republican Congress neglected to do for the last twelve years, which has created the current mood of conservative frustration — we must support Ron Paul. Remember how small government was at the nation’s founding and consider how perhaps even conservatives have since then become de facto socialists, accepting the leviathan state as inevitable. But it’s not inevitable if they vote against it when history hands them that chance.

Todd Seavey lives in New York City and blogs at ToddSeavey.com.



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To: Petronski

Just out of curiosity, did you find Seavey’s reasoning so cogent you can’t argue with it?

I mean, if you despise Paul that much, you must have something to say to the actual thesis of the article.


41 posted on 08/01/2007 8:02:51 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: Oberon
And not wanting to send troops to every third-world hellhole with muzzie bombers on the loose isn't isolationism

..and saying that its our fault that nut job muzzie bombers hate us and letting rogue dictators shoot at our planes and arm the nut job muzzie bombers who want to kill us and our allies isn't conservative nor is it putting the 'protect' in protect and serve on a high priority.

42 posted on 08/01/2007 8:03:45 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: Petronski
More delicious Wyler's beverage for you? Rumor is, it's Berry day at the L.Ron compound!

L. Ron Compound. Ouch! And ... a healthy LOL. Much needed this morning. :O)

43 posted on 08/01/2007 8:04:31 AM PDT by jdm
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To: Petronski
It is a fanciful distinction without a difference.

To which I respond: The federal government is not America.

It is scary that you personally identify with the federal government and believe it is the sum total of America.

44 posted on 08/01/2007 8:05:14 AM PDT by John Farson (Ron Paul for president)
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To: Wallace T.
There is a bit of hypocrisy among those who condemn the pork barrel spending of, say, John Murtha or Denny Hastert, yet defend that of Ron Paul.

Not at all. There are regular earmarks (congressman asking for certain projects to be funded before the relevant federal agency is allowed to divide the remainder as it sees fit) and there are egregious earmarks, indulged in by members of both parties.

Remember the 19 Flake amendments, trying to strike down the Bridge To Nowhere and the Iowa rainforest? Those are truly bad earmarks. You notice that Flake did not go after all earmarks? No. Only the really bad ones. Many FReepers still don't seem to understand what Flake was doing and why. He was making a tiny dent in the vast waste and failed even that. Now, other conservative favorites like Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo submit earmarks and they make deals and vote for earmarks (Duncan voted against all the Flake amendments). Nevertheless, many RP fans hold Duncan in high regard and it may be that Duncan knows his own district quite well and has certain very specific projects that he knows his communities need. And, provided he really is representing his district in that way (and not in some giant porkfest), most of us RP supporters have no big bone to pick with him on the issue.

Ron Paul says that eliminating earmarks altogether won't really solve the fundamental problem since all the funds used for earmarking are already allocated in the budget prior to any earmarking. You have to take the authority and the spending away from Congress and the bureaucrats and give it back to the states (not Gingich-style block grants, just abolish it). Remember, the federal bureaucracy takes its cut for overhead, plays socialism with wealth redistribution, creates a one-size-fits-none program for everyone, then sends the money back to the states but generally without fully funding it, requiring the states to spend even more and conform to federal requirements, even more overhead costs.

However, the Constitution does not grant the Federal government the authority to buy buses or dredge ship channels, certainly not from a strict constructionist viewpoint, which Paul claims in other matters.

The Framers saw two primary federal responsibilities: defense of the Republic and bridge/highway building to create a commerce system. You can look at most of his earmarks and see those are the biggest ones. Of the remaining, the earmarks committee is going to toss out things like renovating the old Edna theater so it can be the new lair of the Chamber of Commerce because they know Ron Paul just submitted it but would never want it funded. As for the others listed, they are only likely to be funded by Congress if other members also want such programs in their districts (things like funding nursing training). And for those items which are struck out by the earmarks committee, the money will go to the bureaucrats in the relevant agency and they will know that there is a certain demand for a project in that district and they can, if they choose, fund that project themselves; it might make the difference in choosing between funding two different projects if they know there is local support for one project and the other has none.

Paul is less of a Constitutional purist than he claims to be.

Neither were the Framers who, once elected, used earmarks as well. This is a practice that goes back to the Founders.

Ron Paul cuts no shady earmark deals. He doesn't vote for them because they always have unconstitutional programs in them, not because the earmarks themselves are in any way unconstitutional.

If you're pure enough, you can never be elected or serve. This is politics as well as governance. The Founders were not such naive idealists and created our checks/balances in federal government to curb the worst abuses.

[Sorry for the long post but the trolls are trying to deceive everyone about RP's record. They also don't understand earmarks and the federal budget process very well or they've chosen to be dishonest just to bash Ron Paul.]
45 posted on 08/01/2007 8:05:42 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: Xenalyte

I don’t despise L.Ron. I find him to be a laughably pathetic creature, commendably pro-life but damnably anti-American and isolationist regarding the Battle of Iraq specifically, and national security in general. This would be bad enough without his flaky “gold v. fiat money” fetish.


46 posted on 08/01/2007 8:07:20 AM PDT by Petronski (imwithfred.com)
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To: mnehrling
He didn't say it was your fault. He faulted those who authored bad policy.

I realize nuance isn't your strong suit. Either that, or you willfully misrepresent and deceive.

47 posted on 08/01/2007 8:07:27 AM PDT by John Farson (Ron Paul for president)
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To: John Farson
It is scary that you personally identify with the federal government and believe it is the sum total of America.

It is scary that you repeat that lie.

American foreign policy is set by our President, whom you and L.Ron dismiss as a "policymaker."

48 posted on 08/01/2007 8:09:06 AM PDT by Petronski (imwithfred.com)
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To: George W. Bush

ping


49 posted on 08/01/2007 8:09:28 AM PDT by Austin Willard Wright
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To: George W. Bush
Ron Paul just submitted it but would never want it funded.

He opposed it before he supported it.

50 posted on 08/01/2007 8:10:56 AM PDT by Petronski (imwithfred.com)
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To: Petronski
The President is not America either. I can blame the President without blaming America.

To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.
—Theodore Roosevelt

1918, following Woodrow Wilson's sweeping crackdown against dissent after the American entry into WWI


51 posted on 08/01/2007 8:13:01 AM PDT by John Farson (Ron Paul for president)
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To: Migraine

That’s scary because the last guy who did gave us 8 years of BJ and HRC.”

Seems to me that it is more true to say that the guy who gave us BJ was actually named “George Bush.” Seems like the guy who might well give us Hillary is also, coincidentally, named “George Bush.”

The point being: don’t blame the third party candidates. Blame the failure on the part of leaders who necessitate third party candidacies.

Now, all that said, Paul won’t run as a third party.


52 posted on 08/01/2007 8:13:48 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Petronski

So why don’t you address Seavey’s arguments, instead of posting cutesy and overdone graphics?


53 posted on 08/01/2007 8:14:20 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: John Farson
I think I found a new job for you, see post #37.
54 posted on 08/01/2007 8:14:53 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: trisham
That’s a very low blow, and unworthy of you.

I was giving an honest opinion. You should see some of these threads we get any more. People advocating complete socialism. Not just RP threads either.

I hate to break it to you but FreeRepublic has a number of Bush-era big-government conservatives. These are persons who would have been banned out of hand in the pre-Bush pro-Gingrich era. That's just how it was.

So I don't think it was a low blow at all. Just an honest description.

In the pre-primary seasons, we should generally be more principle-over-party. Once our primary has selected a nominee, most of us may have to accept a party-over-principle candidate. Certainly, that's what I try to do.

The real objection I have is the effort to exclude Ron Paul the only likely Reagan-Gingrich type Republican from the race (after the others drop out or likely become irrelevant after Ames). And if Duncan or Tom pulls off a surprise in Ames and RP gets a Big Nada, I'll be glad for Duncan or Tom to still be in the race. Because they're both good candidates to help push the entire GOP field to the Right and their borders/illegals leadership is very valuable.

Our goal is to choose the most conservative electable candidate. But we will clearly have to push them to the Right and get them to commit to conservative policy.
55 posted on 08/01/2007 8:15:22 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: 88keys

I hear you, bro ... and believe me, I have a pretty wide streak of realism when it comes to politics and hopeless causes.

I guess I’m just sayin’ ... I’m not yet willing to reduce the whole argument (for instance) to how best to spend the Department of Education budget, when the whole thing and the philosphy behind it is blatantly unconstitutional and destructive of liberty.

And yes ... Rep. Paul is the only one I’m hearing who is challenging the beast. I like Hunter, too, but he voted for the dadgum prescription drug bill for goodness sake. I like some things about Thompson, but I’m under no illusion that he desires a significant change in the big government culture.

At some point, to achieve victory we must first seek it. I’m not saying Paul is the answer ... but I’m glad he’s getting a platform to raise the questions.


56 posted on 08/01/2007 8:15:49 AM PDT by Oliver Optic (Never blame on strategery that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.)
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To: Petronski
So, what I'm reading here..
He opposed it before he supported it... His statements are nuanced.. He just talks over our head...

Wow, we have John Kerry all over again..

57 posted on 08/01/2007 8:17:03 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: mnehrling
..and saying that its our fault that nut job muzzie bombers hate us and letting rogue dictators shoot at our planes and arm the nut job muzzie bombers who want to kill us and our allies isn't conservative nor is it putting the 'protect' in protect and serve on a high priority.

I agree. Point out the candidate that said it, and I'll be sure not to vote for him.

58 posted on 08/01/2007 8:21:10 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Xenalyte
Arguments? Or pie-eyed hagiography?

And for those who say it can’t happen, here’s the beauty part: Get Paul through the primaries to the Republican nomination,

Impossible. He's an anti-war isolationist who loves blaming America.

... and he has the tools to take on Hillary.

Hillary would carry 50 states and DC against L.Ron.

He plainly gets the libertarian swing voters that the Republicans lost in 2006

How many are they? Are we even talking six digits?

...he should garner most conservative votes when contrasted with Hillary...

A third-party conservative would get those, or we'd stay home.

...and — here’s the clincher — he gets a huge share of the bourgeoning antiwar vote to boot.

Absurd. The left is not going to vote for a pro-life pro-gun candidate when they can have their socialized-medicine heroine Hillary.


This article, like most praise of L.Ron, is blissfully, purposely separated from reality.

59 posted on 08/01/2007 8:23:55 AM PDT by Petronski (imwithfred.com)
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To: Oberon
"They attack us because we've been over there,"... "We've been bombing Iraq for 10 years...

If you can explain his nuance and what he really means well enough, a new job is waiting for you (see post #37).. but be warned, you will be busy.

60 posted on 08/01/2007 8:26:14 AM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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