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Leading lawmaker dismisses US scholars' upbeat report on Iraq [Murtha said on CNN......]
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Posted on 07/31/2007 10:54:41 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

Leading lawmaker dismisses US scholars' upbeat report on Iraq Jul 31 01:18 PM US/Eastern

A top Democratic lawmaker Tuesday dismissed the findings of two longtime Iraq war critics, who cited a dramatic improvement in the situation there following the infusion of thousands of additional US troops.

"I dismiss it at as rhetoric," said US Representative John Murtha, a former marine, congressional heavyweight on military matters, and outspoken Iraq War critic.

"I don't know where they were staying. I don't know what they saw. But I know this: that it's not getting better," Murtha said on CNN television.

"It's over-optimist. It's an illusion," the Pennsylvania lawmaker continued.

Independent Brookings Institution analysts Michael O'Hanlon and Kenneth Pollack, who often have criticized US Iraq policy, on Monday said they noted a marked improvement on their last visit earlier this month to the war-torn country.

Pollack and O'Hanlon returned from eight days of meetings with US generals, diplomats and Iraqis saying they were more hopeful than they had expected.

"We saw considerably greater progress on the security side than I would have expected," Pollack said at a press conference Monday, adding that economic and political strides were evident at local levels.

The two scholars warned however that on the national level, the Iraqi government was making "zero" progress.

Their analysis came around seven weeks before a crucial report is due to be delivered on the surge by US commander in Iraq, General David Petraeus, which is being seen as a crucial moment for US policy in Iraq.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: brookings; defeatists; iraq; kennethpollack; michaelohanlon; murtha; murthawatch; nytimes
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1 posted on 07/31/2007 10:54:44 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

IOW....don’t confuse me with facts...my mind is made up!


2 posted on 07/31/2007 10:56:33 AM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Sub-Driver

I urge Freepers to call these surrender morons. I just called Pelosi and Reid’s offices in DC and told them that they’re reprehensible; their surrender rhetoric is emboldening our enemies; and they have our soldiers’ blood on their hands because they give comfort to the enemy. Murtha is next on my list to call.


3 posted on 07/31/2007 10:56:43 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Sub-Driver

So where exactly is Murtha getting his information on the level of progress in Iraq?


4 posted on 07/31/2007 11:00:29 AM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: Sub-Driver
heavyweight on military matters
Much like Michael Moore.
5 posted on 07/31/2007 11:00:47 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Sub-Driver

Murtha is a joke....”I don’t care if you tell me the sky is blue, I know it to be black and anything else is rehtoric”!


6 posted on 07/31/2007 11:01:18 AM PDT by vigilence
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To: Sub-Driver

This guy is a disgrace to the uniform he once wore. He ought to get his fat ass over to Iraq and talk to the troops that he is not supporting. On the other hand, they would probably strand him in some unsavory neighborhood of Baghdad...another reason for him to go.


7 posted on 07/31/2007 11:01:52 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: Sub-Driver

Dear Jack:

You’ve successfully managed to avoid investigation for all the defense contracts you routed to your brother. You can stop dissing the war now, we still won’t “retaliate.”


8 posted on 07/31/2007 11:03:30 AM PDT by nina0113 (If fences don't work, why does the White House have one?)
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To: Sub-Driver

I guess we should believe Murtha over two independent people who have actually been there several times.

What a tool!

I am concerned that they believe the national government is making zero progress. On the other hand, our government is making zero progress here, and we’re still stuck with it.


9 posted on 07/31/2007 11:04:03 AM PDT by henkster (The dems have reserved your place on the collective farm.)
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To: Don Corleone

Did he take one in the head while serving? That may explain some of it.


10 posted on 07/31/2007 11:05:26 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Good ("A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Freud)
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To: Sub-Driver

The Pennsylvania voters sold their souls for congressional pork!


11 posted on 07/31/2007 11:05:36 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: Sub-Driver

Mr. Murtha sure is miserable about something. I wonder what it is?

God, it must be Hell to be John Murtha.

But he’s still a putz.


12 posted on 07/31/2007 11:06:44 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: Sub-Driver

And then ‘old fart-face’ went on to say “And get the hell off my lawn! Godamnit anyway. What are all you people doing in my closet? Hey! That Mary Pickford is a real dish, huh? Where’s my mommy? Quagmire!”


13 posted on 07/31/2007 11:06:53 AM PDT by Spruce
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To: Sub-Driver

Rush is having a good time slapping this turd around with his own comments.

Its akin to clubbing baby seals, I know, but it is fun to hear.


14 posted on 07/31/2007 11:08:06 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: Sub-Driver

Think I’ll call Murtha and ask for this week’s lotto numbers. And maybe to talk to my deceased grandmother. After all, if he doesn’t know the facts but still knows “that it’s not getting better,” he must be psychic.

Or delusional. Or just a lying sack of #### traitor. Take your pick...


15 posted on 07/31/2007 11:11:21 AM PDT by piytar
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To: Redleg Duke

The Pennsylvania GOP did nothing to help Diane Irey defeat this a-hole Murtha.

We PA voters have been repeatedly screwed by the GOP, both state and national.


16 posted on 07/31/2007 11:11:31 AM PDT by airborne (ATTENTION PA FREEPERS !! https://contribute.gohunter08.com/contribute.asp)
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To: Sub-Driver

“I dismiss it at as rhetoric,” said US Representative John Murtha..”

It would be stupid for Al-Qaeda to do anything drastic in the US at this time.

Why expend the lives of your terrorists when you have people like Murtha and other leftists do the work for you without soiling your name? Just hope and wait until they occupy the WH and the whole country will become ripe for the picking.


17 posted on 07/31/2007 11:12:39 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Sub-Driver

This poor man. Why can’t he just retire to that comfy chair before the fire.


18 posted on 07/31/2007 11:13:29 AM PDT by tanuki (u)
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To: Sub-Driver
Call Murtha at:

800-289-2642 from Western PA
(or)
814-535-2642
(or)
202-225-2065 (DC)

19 posted on 07/31/2007 11:13:49 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: the_devils_advocate_666
So where exactly is Murtha getting his information on the level of progress in Iraq?

He's making it up.

20 posted on 07/31/2007 11:14:33 AM PDT by ConservativeofColor
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