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Beslan video disproves official version -relatives
reuters ^ | Sat Jul 28, 2007

Posted on 07/29/2007 10:00:28 AM PDT by spanalot

BESLAN, Russia, July 28 (Reuters) - Previously unseen film proves that the bloody end to the 2004 Beslan siege was caused by security forces firing on a school crammed with hostages, not by blasts from within, a victim support group says.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: beslan; caucasus; globaljihad; govwatch; russia; terrorism
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To: spanalot
Image hosted by Photobucket.com iirc, in that shot, she was lying on a stretcher praying.
21 posted on 07/29/2007 11:25:07 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: 2111USMC

“You don’t negotiate with terrorists. You kill them.”

Negotiation is used to wear down the terrorists and provide the time to effect a proper plan to target the terrorists.

Attacking a school building full of hostages with tank fire and other antipersonel ordinance is lunacy.


22 posted on 07/29/2007 11:25:42 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: BrooklynGOP
...not to mention the refusal to accept foreign help when it came to saving the sailors on Kursk.

Most Katrina Aid From Overseas Went Unclaimed

Report details US refusals of foreign aid after Katrina

23 posted on 07/29/2007 11:31:37 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: spanalot
There is also ample evidence that the FSB purposely let the terrorists in across the border so that this could all be staged and allow Putin to grab more power.

Are you a truther? Do you believe in LIHOP or MIHOP for 9/11?

24 posted on 07/29/2007 11:35:04 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: spanalot
No - it appears that the Russians ACTIVELY worked to make this tragedy happen.

So you are a MIHOP person. Your derangement is parallel to those who think President Bush, sorry -- the BFEE, made 9/11 happen so he could institute fascism in the US. It is nonsense on both sides.

25 posted on 07/29/2007 11:39:05 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Chode

Wonderful - its fortunate that one of the 7 Russian tank rounds or grenades or flame throwers did not kill her as they killed so many of the hostages.


26 posted on 07/29/2007 11:39:50 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot

bookmark


27 posted on 07/29/2007 11:40:11 AM PDT by DocRock (All they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 ... Go ahead, look it up!)
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To: spanalot
Civilized countries often resolve these hostage situations by negotiation.

Such as at the Branch Davidian compound in Waco? Or the negotiations that freed the hostages on 9/11?

28 posted on 07/29/2007 11:42:22 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls
"Are you a truther? Do you believe in LIHOP or MIHOP " What do you mean, no soap - radio? ................................................... "According to victims' relatives, the local authorities are the real culprits—guilty for having allowed the terrorists to infiltrate the building months before it was taken over—and the incompetent central government, which allowed Special Forces to storm the school without making any real attempt at mediation thus triggering the massacre." It might help to read the links here and see what the locals in Beslan are claiming. And Putin seems to be ignoring their inquiries.
29 posted on 07/29/2007 11:44:01 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Beslan info.


30 posted on 07/29/2007 11:46:55 AM PDT by Rushmore Rocks
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To: FreedomCalls

I suppose you would have preferred these Americans came back in caskets.

http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&svnum=10&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=iran+hostages&btnG=Search+Images


31 posted on 07/29/2007 11:59:11 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: Chode

i have an image that includes that picture on my website

http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312


32 posted on 07/29/2007 2:15:26 PM PDT by pacelvi (Islam is the acid that will dissolve the nation-state and led to the total breakdown of civilization)
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To: Chode

33 posted on 07/29/2007 2:16:37 PM PDT by pacelvi (Islam is the acid that will dissolve the nation-state and led to the total breakdown of civilization)
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To: spanalot
It might help to read the links here and see what the locals in Beslan are claiming. And Putin seems to be ignoring their inquiries.

Bush is ignoring the truthers too. Does that make them right about 9/11 being an inside job of the BFEE?

34 posted on 07/29/2007 5:19:29 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

Whats your problem - there is already court testimony where the officials admit that the Russian tanks fired 7 rounds into the school in Beslan - probably killing more than the terrorists.

Are you saying Bush strafed the 86th floor of the WTC while it was burning?


35 posted on 07/29/2007 5:35:57 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: spanalot; Chode

I always wondered about the authenticity of this image.

Why would a hostage disable a hand by wrapping it in the hand like this.

Also, the grit under the nails indicates that this person was clawing thru something - if so, how did the cross emerge pristine and otherwise not ripped off the chain. Mine has broken with a few pounds of pressure.<<<<

If the owner of that hand had a desire to live, when the attack began, they took that cross off their neck and put it in their pocket, to wear it proudly, would have been instant death.

A guess on my part, but it would explain why it is clean and unbroken.

The Families of Nord Ost Theater hostage taking, have also tried to get information and it is denied to them.


36 posted on 07/29/2007 7:39:28 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Today is a good day for working on some heavy praying. The world needs God to hear them.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

now THAT(NOT), was a botched job if i ever saw one...


37 posted on 07/29/2007 7:44:42 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist)
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To: BrooklynGOP

The interests of the government are often at odds with the interests of the individual.

In this case, the Russian government decided that beating the terrorists was paramount, even at the cost of innocent lives. This is not unusual for most governments: the imperative is “rule at all costs”.

This is why our Founding Fathers revolted.


38 posted on 07/29/2007 7:45:59 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: FreedomCalls

Fortunately, the Branch Davidians inflicted so much damage that the government achieved only a Pyhrric victory, and was motivated to return to more civilized ways.


39 posted on 07/29/2007 7:49:09 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: spanalot; All

Struwwelpeter has just posted a transcription [in part] of the tape, it is here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1853040/posts?page=2306#2306

This link should lead to other transcribed reports on Nord Ost and Beslan:

http://nord-ost.org/kratkie-novosti/dyirka-v-stene-ne-ot-etogo-vzryiva.html

“The hole in the wall is not from that explosion”

By Alan Tsukurbayev (Vladikavkaz)
27.07.2007
Gazeta.ru


40 posted on 07/29/2007 7:50:17 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( Today is a good day for working on some heavy praying. The world needs God to hear them.)
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