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The YouTube Debate: Send In The Clowns
Townhall.com ^ | July 29, 2007 | Ken Connor

Posted on 07/29/2007 3:56:43 AM PDT by Kaslin

George Washington. Abraham Lincoln. Franklin Roosevelt. John F. Kennedy. Ronald Reagan. Who among these men would answer, with a straight face, a question posed by a snowman?

One wonders about the seriousness of a nation that considers the YouTube debate hosted by CNN a success and a triumph. Countless commentators have fawned over how refreshing it was to replace those stuffy old reporters with videos of real people with real concerns. Michael Finnegan and Matea Gold of the LA Times gushed, "Free-wheeling video questions from ordinary citizens put a fresh spark into the staid ritual of presidential debates this week, with everything from a talking snowman to a guy cradling a rifle he called 'my baby'." The reporters then said the debate was more like American Idol than Meet the Press. The implication was that this is a good thing.

The entertainment value of the format for the debate received high praise. A Philadelphia Inquirer editorial praised the debate, saying, "...a debate is entertaining, more people will watch—and that's a good thing."

It is certainly a good thing for American citizens to take an interest in the political process, and many were celebrating because they were more entertained than usual. A Boston Globe editorial declared that the old way of debating was a "recipe for dull television." The new way: "engaging" and "lively"! But is new always good? Do we undermine serious discourse when the emphasis is on entertainment? When questions are posed by animated snowmen, men holding automatic weapons, and lesbian couples playing "gotcha" do we somehow trivialize the process and, perhaps, the of fice of President itself?

Have Americans become so obsessed with being entertained, that fewer and fewer of us are willing to tolerate sober-minded political debate and reflection. Do we now require a circus; something happening in all three rings, with a freak show on the side?

If so, will there come a day when the American people, deadened by entertainment culture, are simply no longer mature enough to take seriously their civic obligations? Will we, in time, become so addicted to entertainment and pleasure that the hard work of political discourse will be beyond us? Will our attention span be so short that we start to zone out after fifteen seconds unless a talking snowman catches our attention?

And what about the dignity of the office of President of the United States? In the YouTube debate, there appeared to be a lack of seriousness looming over the whole event. Presidential campaigns are becoming less and less dignified as candidates do anything and everything for attention and approval. Some of the video questions amounted to little more than rants issued from the computer user's basement. The first question of the night began, "What's up! I'm running out of tape, I have to hurry!" There was little decorum or restraint in many questions; the attitude was "let it all hang out."

Thoughtful, Meet the Press type debates have been belittled over the last few days by many commentators who were enchanted by this entertaining show. One popular sentiment was that candidates will be forced to take real people's problems more seriously when confronted by the widow of a fallen soldier, or a homosexual couple, or a person dying of cancer. While it is undoubtedly true that these human encounters do change the feel of a debate, that's not necessarily always a good thing. Sometimes mature and strong leadership needs to step back from the immediacy of an individual's suffering and see their problem in the context of the larger whole, with a mind toward the common good. Let's be honest. The President's job is not to be there to tend every Alzheimer's patient, teach every child, and arbitrate every labor dispute. The President is not supposed to solve every problem in America. Families, local communities, and local governments are often better equipped for dealing with personal tragedy.

When standing before an image of someone who is suffering, the natural reaction is to say, "Listen, I want to help you. Here's what I can do," even when on careful reflection one realizes that may not be good national policy. It is tempting for politicians who can wield the levers of power, to see themselves as the Savior who will wipe away every tear and heal every hurt. But, lest we forget, a government that is big enough to heal every hurt and right every wrong is one that is big enough to dictate every aspect of our existence.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: demdebates; hillary; obama; youtubedebate
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1 posted on 07/29/2007 3:56:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
The YouTube Debate: Send In The Clowns

In the Rats case:

But where are the clowns? Quick, send in the clowns.

Don't bother, they're here."
2 posted on 07/29/2007 3:59:21 AM PDT by Kozak
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To: Kaslin

If you haven’t seen it already, get the movie “Idiocracy” which is about this happening in the future...


3 posted on 07/29/2007 4:00:59 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well after suffering through 8 years of the morning press conference during the Clinton years....nothing surprises me.


4 posted on 07/29/2007 4:10:18 AM PDT by leenie312
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To: Kaslin
The reporters then said the debate was more like American Idol than Meet the Press. The implication was that this is a good thing.

Why not have naked, wrestling lesbians give the questions?

5 posted on 07/29/2007 4:10:43 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Lurker
"Free-wheeling video questions from ordinary citizens put a fresh spark into the staid ritual of presidential debates this week, with everything from a talking snowman to a guy cradling a rifle he called 'my baby'."

Ahem....

So, Lurker, I'm just curious...

6 posted on 07/29/2007 4:12:04 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: johnny7

Because real lesbians don’t look like the actresses in porno movies.


7 posted on 07/29/2007 4:12:49 AM PDT by conserveababe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone told me that movie was kind of pro-left-wing. Was she wrong?


8 posted on 07/29/2007 4:14:15 AM PDT by conserveababe
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To: Kaslin; All
Well, whatever value debates may have had it the past, all I see nowadays is Kabuki Theatre, staged so the chattering classes have something to yap about.

They serve no useful purpose anymore, and have not for some time. We'd do better without this nonsense.

9 posted on 07/29/2007 4:21:43 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Kaslin

My .357 is my baby. It fits into the drawer by my bed.


10 posted on 07/29/2007 4:22:17 AM PDT by conserveababe
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To: conserveababe
Because real lesbians don’t look like the actresses in porno movies.

Don't matter... it beats a snowman.

11 posted on 07/29/2007 4:24:28 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Kaslin
The "YouTube Debate" was as useful as learning about Billy Clintoooooooon's underwear or that he kept Astroturf in the back of his pick up truck!

The seriousness and responsibility of selecting the President of the United States has diminished into being a prop for the pimps of the Election Industry, principally the Main Stream Media!
12 posted on 07/29/2007 4:24:35 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: conserveababe

Somewhat (what Hollywood film doesn’t?) but it still shows the path we are heading for, and the dumbing-down of society.


13 posted on 07/29/2007 4:26:27 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: conserveababe

She’s right to a degree. It’s to be expected given the intended audience (college kids, who, like, are so, like smart and stuff) and that the writing was only slightly less stupid than the characters themselves. If you do watch it, do so with a college kid (who’s, like, so, like smart and stuff) in the room .... and watch them watch it. It’s an experience.


14 posted on 07/29/2007 4:29:33 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (You do not have the plug-in required to view this tagline.)
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To: johnny7

The image of Tammy Bruce jumped into my minds eye.

What an image that would be....oh ya


15 posted on 07/29/2007 4:31:11 AM PDT by ThreePuttinDude ()...temporarily out of service ....()
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To: johnny7
Why not have naked, wrestling lesbians give the questions?

There is nothing that would prevent the modern liberal from welcoming such a degradation.

As they drag us toward Sodom in the culture war, the spectre of such an event will actually become plausible.

16 posted on 07/29/2007 4:33:40 AM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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To: Kaslin
Countless commentators have fawned over how refreshing it was to replace those stuffy old reporters with videos of real people with real concerns.

The only way to get some semblence of "fairness" in these debates is to allow a group of "Republican" supporters to pose questions - and also a "Democratic" group of reporters.

With this recent juvenile "debate" posed by CNN, the ratio of liberal-based questions to conservative-based questions was 15-1 (Talk show host Hugh Hewitt did a devastating analysis last week in which he demonstrated the premise of each so-called "unbiased" questioner which was CHOSEN -- emphasis on CHOSEN -- by CNN staffers.)

Heck, all those CHOSEN questions were simply a proxy for Republican hating CNN.

17 posted on 07/29/2007 4:41:39 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: Kaslin
The first paragraph of this article is very striking. And true. Unfortunately, the dumbing down of America continues at an exponential rate.

Much of You Tube is helping.

“Reality” (boy, there’s a misnomer) TV is helping.

Insipid, vapid TV shows like “Age of Love,” “Big Brother,” "American Idol," etc. are helping.

A real shame.

18 posted on 07/29/2007 4:49:37 AM PDT by upchuck (The Hildabeaste fears Fred.)
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To: ThreePuttinDude
The image of Tammy Bruce jumped into my minds eye.

Quite acceptable... and intelligent as well. I'd even let her answer her own question.

19 posted on 07/29/2007 4:54:33 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Kaslin
The extreme leftist domination of Youtube (many leftists spend all their time planting leftist propaganda on Youtube) works seamlessly to further reinforce the nihlism that has poisoned our culture since the sixties.

Youtube is an exceptionally profane and vulgar site reflecting the godless anti-American drug culture of the left which is defined by sex-obsession, narcissism and the inability to identify and reject what is shameful.

20 posted on 07/29/2007 4:56:29 AM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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