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Guys, I don't care who you have supported in the 2008 race up to this point, but Spencer Abraham is bad news. At the very best this guy is incredibly weak on the WOT, and at worst is part of the problem. This is a terrible choice for Fred Thompson, and if it hurts him, well, it was his bad choice.
1 posted on 07/26/2007 11:00:59 AM PDT by The 9 11 Generation
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To: The 9 11 Generation
I say we have at least 30 posts on this today...

Give everyone a chance to act a fool...

Oh yeah, I’ll start.

Fred is DOOMED!

No he’s not!

Yes he is!

Etc.

Etc.

Etc....

2 posted on 07/26/2007 11:04:50 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Fred Thompson has cooties, neener neener neener...)
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To: The 9 11 Generation

the lebanese part has been scrubbed from more than a dozen of his bios online.

But not from HERE:

Lebanon Awards
“The National Order of the Cedar”
to Spencer Abraham,
U.S. Secretary of Energy
http://www.arab-american-affairs.net/archives/spencer-abraham-lebanon.htm

In fact, here’s the link as a cache, in case this one disappears, too.
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:e6LHpiCyXzwJ:www.arab-american-affairs.net/archives/spencer-abraham-lebanon.htm+%22spencer+abraham%22+bio+lebanon&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a


3 posted on 07/26/2007 11:06:35 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: The 9 11 Generation

I doubt Fred would formulate WOT policies based on this guy’s opinions alone. A campaign manager is not the same as a policy adviser. If Abraham can deliver states like Michigan to Fred, then he’s a good choice. Time will tell.


4 posted on 07/26/2007 11:10:23 AM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: The 9 11 Generation
I have a problem with Spencer Abraham because of his views on immigration (ironically, him and Thompson did but heads on the issue in the senate, and they did vote against each other more then once), that said, the guy is not a muslim, is not a terrorist sympathizer and is one of the founding members of the federalist society.

He is not a problem, I would rather he not be part of the campaign (Its odd to me why he was chosen, personal relationship?), but this article is just a hit piece in disguise.

5 posted on 07/26/2007 11:11:59 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: The 9 11 Generation
From what I understand Spencer Abraham is of Arab Christian descent. Kind of hard for Arab Christian to back radical Muslims if you ask me.
8 posted on 07/26/2007 11:18:34 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear..on this good earth... I bid you stand! Men of the West!)
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To: The 9 11 Generation
I like Fred Thompson, he's my favorite prospect for President. However, I do agree that this was not a wise move. Fred Thompson has in part inspired excitement among conservatives because of his excellent articulation - and blunt speaking manner - about the war that has been declared upon us by Islamic jihadists.

Obviously, those of us who believe strongly in the need for America to prosecute this war aggressively and effectively would have to wish that Thompson would surround himself with aides who share that passion to win the war decisively.

9 posted on 07/26/2007 11:23:08 AM PDT by Impeach98 (Anti-war protestors should try holding rallies in Damascus and Tehran!)
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The more crap they print about him the more obvious it becomes just how terrified of him they really are. Pathetic dog squeeze, every one of them.


12 posted on 07/26/2007 11:24:50 AM PDT by stm
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In defense of Debbie Schlussel... I think alot of FReepers who have commented here have broadbrushed her concerns as being that he is Lebanese. But that's not what she said. She cited a few examples of instances where Spence Abraham raised eyebrows among those who want to aggressively fight back in the war the jihadists declared on the United States.

In my book that doesn't disqualify Fred Thompson - he's still my guy - but it does offer a legitimate issue to discuss.

I like George Bush's Supreme Court picks... but that didn't mean I didn't howl vociferously when he nominated Harriet Miers who I felt was a very poor choice.

So, we shouldn't be afraid to have these discussions. They are healthy for Fred's campaign to hear from the base -- because it will obviously become clear to us that there's nothing to be concerned about, or else if there is, then our discussions will help to nudge Team Fred to be more acutely aware of bad decisions and rectify them or not repeat them.

I say let's have these discussions - just so long as we're constructive about them.

19 posted on 07/26/2007 11:52:46 AM PDT by Impeach98 (Anti-war protestors should try holding rallies in Damascus and Tehran!)
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Maybe I’m slow, but I thought it was Fred Thompson who is interested in running for President.

What’s Spence Abraham running for?

Nothing?

Oh, right. Then this is nothing more than an attempted drive-by guilt by association. Debbie Schlussel should be ashamed of herself.


23 posted on 07/26/2007 12:04:20 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: The 9 11 Generation

Michigan may be a very important early primary state.

http://www.redstate.com/blogs/rightmichigan_com/2007/jul/26/michigan_pres_primary_gets_interesting_its_time_to_play_the_family_feud


24 posted on 07/26/2007 12:05:49 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Nothing is better than eternal happiness. A ham sandwich is better than nothing. Therefore...)
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To: The 9 11 Generation

Stupid move on Thompson’s part. If he’s not onto the Lebanese by now, he ain’t no promising candidate for president. This is nearly as good as Mrs. Clinton’s live-in a-rab lady. NEXT!


26 posted on 07/26/2007 12:37:41 PM PDT by twonie (Keep your guns - and stockpile ammo.)
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This is a terrible choice for Fred Thompson, and if it hurts him, well, it was his bad choice.

You have that right. Open borders Spencer Abraham is the original border quisling. If there's anyone in the GOP who has been worse than Dubya on immigration, it's Spencer Abraham.

36 posted on 07/26/2007 7:33:12 PM PDT by Pelham (Johnny Sutton, jailer of the Border Patrol and friend to drug smugglers.)
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To: The 9 11 Generation

Abraham wasn’t hired to advise Fred on immigration or any other policy. He was hired to set up a competitive campain organization in Michigan, something he is very adept at doing.

Don’t belive anything that comes from a grown woman named “Debbie.”


41 posted on 07/27/2007 6:39:52 AM PDT by Josh Painter ( "This is our home and we get to decide who gets to come into our home." - Fred)
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To: The 9 11 Generation; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; alisasny; ...
PING!

Activist upset at Thompson's choice of campaign manager (One News Now article)

Chad Groening
OneNewsNow.com
August 13, 2007

An Arab Christian and staunch critic of Islam says she cannot support Fred Thompson if the former Tennessee senator enters the presidential race.

Recently Thompson's communication director announced that former Michigan senator and U.S. Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham has joined Thompson's team in a major role that would be considered campaign manager.

Brigitte Gabriel is founder and president of the American Congress for Truth. She says as a senator, Abraham was a water-carrier for extremist Islamic groups. She says Abraham opposed profiling of Arabs and the use of secret evidence against Muslims, and he attempted to repeal the Clinton counter-terrorism package.

“He refused to fund computer tracking of students and other foreign aliens, giving millions in our tax money right to Hezbollah. And he is the one who put the Council on American-Islamic Relations on the map on Capitol Hill," says Gabriel.

Gabriel says this is not someone Fred Thompson should pick to run his campaign.

"How can we support a guy like Fred Thompson who picked this man to head up his team?” she asks. “Either Thompson is clueless about Abraham, which should immediately disqualify him for the White House and frighten all of us about how he makes decisions -- or he knows about Abraham and went with him anyway."

Thompson, who has not yet officially entered the race, reportedly might make a formal announcement around Labor Day.

42 posted on 08/14/2007 7:20:05 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Will I be suspended again for this remark?)
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To: The 9 11 Generation

Debbie is a shill for the Rutard, but she has a point here on Spence, who, btw, I was mistaken for when I was 30 lbs. heavier.


45 posted on 08/14/2007 7:28:33 PM PDT by Clemenza (Rudy Giuliani, like Pesto and Seattle, belongs in the scrap heap of '90s Culture)
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