Posted on 07/26/2007 10:56:25 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA
Three female mountain gorillas and a male silverback gorilla were found shot dead this week inside a national park in the Democratic Republic of Congo, a conservation group said Thursday.
The bodies were discovered inside Virunga National Park but it was unclear who killed them and why, the International Gorilla Conservation Program said in a statement.
"Just over 700 mountain gorillas survive in the wild today, and none exist in captivity," the group said. "For such a small population, the unnecessary and indiscriminate killing of four mountain gorillas is a huge loss."
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Re: even if they are poachers—are worth more than the animals they are killing.
Nonsense.
Are you telling me a gun toting thug is worth more than a guide dog who lovingly helps his crippled master?
Or a poacher is more valuable than an endangered shark he is killing for fins?
This is simply IMMORAL:
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20021012/bob10.asp
Someone had hauled in the 6-foot gray reef shark, sliced off all its fins, and then tossed it overboard. To cover up the act, the plunderer had tied a 15-pound piece of coral to what remained of the tail to ensure the carcass would sink.
The grotesque load represents the slaughter of at least 30,000 sharks and the discard of some 1.28 million pounds of fish, observes Paul Ortiz, a senior marine-fisheries-enforcement attorney with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
Well said. Amazing that everyone cannot agree on that as a simple baseline.
gambling debts? drug deal gone bad?
your fellow humans, who—even if they are poachers—are worth more than the animals they are killing.
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What bookstore did you find the animal pricelist at? I’ve been looking everywhere for one, but they are sold out at Barnes and Noble and Borders.
Or are animals just like the dollar store - where everything is priced the same.
Re: And yet the beef industry is still a thriving, multi-billion dollar business.
Not because of me.
However, by the same token, using your reasoning, why stop there? Should there be a ban on pig flesh (pork)? Pigs are more similar to humans than fish, cattle, or even dogs (that's bound to cause something of an uproar in the dogs' rights crowd: eating dogs, disgusting).
As it is, sufficiently reducing chimpanzees' lifespans (or the time it takes for them to reach maturity) would be difficult enough--it's more of a hypothetical issue. Though if they could--and if restarted eating meat--would eat a chimpanzee steak as much as would eat a beef one (taking into account cost and availability, etc., of course).
It is conceivable that a robot could be created with an intelligence far (FAR) surpassing even the most intelligent human creature. That wouldn't give the robot [inherently] more of a right to life than a squirrel (or a gorilla). It is because of the robot's usefulness that gives the robot the 'right' to stick around.
This could seem callously cruel, but animals, including gorillas, are in the service of man. Mankind has a duty to be a good steward (such as not wantonly killing animals on a whim), but it comes down to usefulness.
For the great apes, since their ecological niche is (somewhat) already taken by humans, from a 'cold' and rational viewpoint, it is not vital to keep them alive. That is not to type that they should be killed without reason or that humans should not try to keep their species alive--within reason. But if they do go extinct, given the current information about ecology, the world will keep on going without great apes in the picture.
“Is there no difference between a gnat and a gnu in your belief system?”
He answered the question. The answer was “no difference”.
Well, if the conservation people were smart they would be tagging and getting genetic samples from as many of these gorillas as possible.
Seems to me that that would include anything that's helpless, child or animal.
Don't put words in other people's hands. (mouth).
Right on. There is no country that these people have control of that is run in any sort of decent or orderly way. And Bermuda doesn’t count.
Thank you, Red, thank you. Needed to be said, and bears repeating.
You are pathetic.
Perverted and weird. No wonder the churches are empty in this modern age.
You two should be ashamed of yourselves.
I and my kids just returned from a missions trip to Swaziland. The comments from both of you are disgusting.
You have never looked into the eyes of another human being—no matter how poor, how sick, how different from you—that does not matter to God.
I saw more humanity in the grandmothers on the poorest homesteads in Motjane, struggling to feed their grandkids, than in either of you.
You two should be ashamed of yourselves.
I and my kids just returned from a missions trip to Swaziland. The comments from both of you are disgusting.
You have never looked into the eyes of another human being—no matter how poor, how sick, how different from you—that does not matter to God.
I saw more humanity in the grandmothers on the poorest homesteads in Motjane, struggling to feed their grandkids, than in either of you.
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