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Merchants: AK-47s good for business; Critics fear powerful rifles might land in wrong hands
herald online ^ | 07/26/07 | Adam O'Daniel

Posted on 07/26/2007 8:46:27 AM PDT by holymoly

The same type of gun commonly used by Iraqi security forces is legally being sold to civilians in Rock Hill.

Surprised? Don't be. It's been happening for years in York County, and more stores are offering AK-47 assault rifles as their popularity grows among collectors since federal restrictions on their sales were lifted in 2004.

But law enforcement officials say they've found shell casings at crime scenes recently, and gun-control advocates claim the guns weren't designed for retail sale.

Take a drive along Cherry Road, and you'll see David's Pawn Shop advertising the weapons on its marquee, "AK-47s Now In Stock." Owner David Dresner said he started selling the Romanian-made weapon recently, and it's been a big hit with collectors and for those taking target practice. Some individuals also use the guns for hunting, he said.

David's is one of the first pawn shops in the area to start selling the guns, he said. Larger gun dealers including Nichols Store southeast of Rock Hill and the Sportsman in Newport have been selling the weapons for years, clerks at both stores said.

"We've sold a bunch of them," Dresner said, estimating he sells four or five AK-47s each week. "I've been surprised at how well they've sold."

Dresner said the AK-47 he sells is a semi-automatic rifle just like the ones used by Iraqi police allied with U.S. troops in the Middle East. It looks similar to the famed Russian AK-47, a fully automatic machine gun made popular during the Cold War. Those guns, however, are only sold to individuals specially licensed by the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, he said. And they carry a $25,000 price tag.

Priced from $550 to $800

The assault rifles Dresner and other local dealers offer are priced between $550 and $800. State law also requires a mandatory background check before the gun can be sold -- just like any other gun sale -- that takes between 20 minutes and three days.

From 1994 to 2004, a federal ban on assault weapons, including AK-47s, limited the kinds of guns dealers could sell. Dresner said the AK-47 was still sold, but only with magazines that held three rounds or less. The ban expired in 2004 and the guns can now be purchased with up to 100 round drums, Dresner said.

And they can be fired "as fast as you can pull the trigger," he said.

That's the main reason gun-control advocates are concerned about the sale of assault weapons. They claim the guns were manufactured for killing people, not any other reason.

"AK-47s should not be available for sale. There's really no argument," said Zach Ragbourn, a spokesman for the Brady Campaign, the nation's leading gun-control lobby. "They're designed to attack people, period. They're not for hunting or a fun collector's item."

Ragbourn said the term "assault weapon" was coined by the gun industry years ago as a marketing tool. He said any weapon capable of firing multiple rounds in a split second shouldn't be offered on store shelves.

"A 100-round magazine is not a cosmetic feature," he said. "It's nothing but a bunch of lead in the air in a short amount of time."

Ragbourn said lobbyists are pushing lawmakers to reinstate the assault weapon ban.

Locally, Lt. Les Herring of the Rock Hill Police Department said several shell casings from the high-powered rifles have turned up at crime scenes recently. He said there are two or three unsolved shootings, none fatal, where investigators found the bullet shells.

"We know people are shooting them, but that's about all we know," he said.

Herring said there isn't any data that suggests more assault weapons are used for violent crimes now than before the weapons ban expired. However, any time a weapon capable of firing rounds quickly is in the hands of a criminal, it's a concern, he said.

"People who want one will go wherever they have to in order to get one," Herring said, adding that before the guns were sold locally, people would travel to other places to make purchases. "The threat's always been out there. We've always had that concern."

Dresner doesn't believe the guns he sells are going directly into the hands of criminals. He said the background checks and clientele he sees on a regular basis suggest otherwise.

"It's just a souvenir, to be able to say, 'I've got an AK-47,'" Dresner said. "I bet 90 percent of the people who buy it won't even shoot the first bullet."

When he thinks a gun may end up in the wrong hands, Dresner refuses the sale, he said. Recently, a man passed a background check to purchase a handgun, but Dresner overheard him joking with a friend that he was going to use the gun for violence.

"I said, 'Sorry buddy. You just talked your way out of this gun,'" Dresner said. "It's not worth it to have that on your conscious."

Dresner said most guns used in violent crimes are bought illegally or stolen from a responsible owner.

"Could it get into the wrong hands? I guess," he said about the AK-47s. "But the average person who buys it is legit."

Adam O'Daniel • 329-4069

aodaniel@heraldonline.com


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; dishonestmedia; guns; idiotsinmedia; propaganda; secondamendment; wasr10
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To: Barney Gumble
The first lie really was that he called an AK-47 a powerful rifle. People can buy hunting rifles that are much more powerful.

And much more accurate.

21 posted on 07/26/2007 9:27:54 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (Run, Fred run! I will send my donation as soon as you announce.)
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To: holymoly

AK’s sold in the US are semiauto only, built on US made recievers. The reporter knows nothing.


22 posted on 07/26/2007 9:29:30 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: holymoly
Some experts may disagree, but I’ve read the best quality AK’s were those made in the DDR, the old East Germany.
23 posted on 07/26/2007 9:30:40 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: holymoly
Ragbourn said the term "assault weapon" was coined by the gun industry years ago as a marketing tool.

A particularly outrageous and bold-faced lie. The term was coined by gun-control advocates to attempt to create a problem that didn't and still doesn't really exist. The entire body of the fraudulent and ineffective "Assault Weapons Ban" was written around this little rhetorical scam.

24 posted on 07/26/2007 9:31:49 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: holymoly
I'm in the middle of building my first AK-style weapon from a flat blank and a Romanian parts kit right now.

I wonder what this sissy reporter would think about my ability to do this in my own garage without a gummint background check?

25 posted on 07/26/2007 9:32:44 AM PDT by AngryJawa ({IDPA, NRA} GO HUNTER '08)
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To: Lurker

So, what is the average price of a WASR? What type of ammo? High capacity mags available? And, most importantly, pictures?


26 posted on 07/26/2007 9:35:50 AM PDT by wishuponastarr ("You can't apease violence, there comes a time when all of us have to stand against it" --McGarret)
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To: holymoly

“He said any weapon capable of firing multiple rounds in a split second shouldn’t be offered on store shelves.”

Apparently, a Ruger 10/22 is also an assault weapon.


27 posted on 07/26/2007 9:36:08 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: 353FMG
The explanation you gave has been offered by so many already but the MSM just don’t get it. But it is more likely that they don’t want to get it in order to promote their leftist agenda.

I think it's the latter.

This article is a perfect example of why people cannot trust the media to tell them the truth about either guns, or gun control.

28 posted on 07/26/2007 9:37:05 AM PDT by holymoly
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To: holymoly

I telephoned the author of the article. He was receptive to my questioning of his use of the term assault rifle. The man simply was unaware of the true definition of assault rifle.
I thought the cost of the AKs was high but he said he checked with three guns stores and they were selling them for the price he quoted. Credit to him for doing the checking.


29 posted on 07/26/2007 9:38:34 AM PDT by em2vn
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To: wishuponastarr
So, what is the average price of a WASR?

I paid $350.00 for mine.

What type of ammo?

7.62 X 39mm.

High capacity mags available?

Mine came with 2 30 rounds mags. Additional ones can be had for about $20.00 or so.

most importantly, pictures?

Here's the package I got:

Enjoy.

L

30 posted on 07/26/2007 9:39:50 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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To: AngryJawa

AJ: There was a young man, in Utah I think, who had a really good web-site on AK clones. I was on it a couple months ago but can’t find it now.
In particular he had an article on how to address “trigger-slap” by taking a Dremel to the disconnector. You wouldn’t have that site address, would you? td


31 posted on 07/26/2007 9:41:47 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: tumblindice
I love my WASR.

I certainly like mine. I bought a 75-rd RPK drum mag for it. I can just about shoot prone with it, unlike when using my 30 & 40 rd mags. Lol.

32 posted on 07/26/2007 9:42:13 AM PDT by holymoly
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To: 353FMG

Good luck finding a Colt.
Colt has made it prohibitively difficult to get their AR-15s unless your LEO or goobermint.


33 posted on 07/26/2007 9:44:08 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Lurker

Darn, you are FAST! thanks much.


34 posted on 07/26/2007 9:44:28 AM PDT by wishuponastarr ("You can't apease violence, there comes a time when all of us have to stand against it" --McGarret)
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To: wishuponastarr
So, what is the average price of a WASR?

Mine was $350 at Dunhams.

What type of ammo?

7.62x39

High capacity mags available?

Yup. I purchased several 30 & 40 round mags, plus a 75-rd RPK drum mag, (at a gun show).

35 posted on 07/26/2007 9:44:51 AM PDT by holymoly
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To: holymoly
7.62x39 AKs aren't bad (I have a few -47 semi's), but I love my Polish 5.45x39 AKM-74 semi. (smile) She's a sweet shooter wih a very flat trajectory. Plus surplus 5.45x39 is selling cheaper than 7.62x39 these days...
36 posted on 07/26/2007 9:45:46 AM PDT by Jonah Hex ("How'd you get that scar, mister?" "Nicked myself shaving.")
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To: tumblindice
Is this the site?

http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/index.shtml

37 posted on 07/26/2007 9:47:23 AM PDT by Jonah Hex ("How'd you get that scar, mister?" "Nicked myself shaving.")
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To: holymoly

don’t you just get so tired of the dumb b@@tards in the press? the AK round is ballistically about equal to the .30-30 winchester of western fame. that does not put it in the “high-powered rifle” category.at any rate,I will buy, collect, shoot, and hunt with whatever I damn well please,thank you very much..I didn’t survive the inconveniences of TET ‘68 to have to listen to some dude whining about restricting my 2nd AMNENDMENT RIGHTS..Joe Biden,et.al., not withstanding


38 posted on 07/26/2007 9:48:52 AM PDT by rangervet
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To: holymoly

I’ve got about 50/50 20 and 30 round magazines. cheaperthandirt and Sportsmans Guide call the 20 rounders: `Hungarian tankers’.
So if I ever find myself in a Hungarian tank, I’m ready! ;^)

Btw, the web-site I mention above had an interesting article on `bump-shooting’. Have never tried it but it’s supposed to simulate auto. fire. Sounds expensive....


39 posted on 07/26/2007 9:50:01 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: Thunder90
AK’s sold in the US are semiauto only, built on US made recievers.

No, US made parts, the receivers can be foreign. I think mine was milled in Belgium.
40 posted on 07/26/2007 9:50:31 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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