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Merchants: AK-47s good for business; Critics fear powerful rifles might land in wrong hands
herald online ^ | 07/26/07 | Adam O'Daniel

Posted on 07/26/2007 8:46:27 AM PDT by holymoly

The same type of gun commonly used by Iraqi security forces is legally being sold to civilians in Rock Hill.

Surprised? Don't be. It's been happening for years in York County, and more stores are offering AK-47 assault rifles as their popularity grows among collectors since federal restrictions on their sales were lifted in 2004.

But law enforcement officials say they've found shell casings at crime scenes recently, and gun-control advocates claim the guns weren't designed for retail sale.

Take a drive along Cherry Road, and you'll see David's Pawn Shop advertising the weapons on its marquee, "AK-47s Now In Stock." Owner David Dresner said he started selling the Romanian-made weapon recently, and it's been a big hit with collectors and for those taking target practice. Some individuals also use the guns for hunting, he said.

David's is one of the first pawn shops in the area to start selling the guns, he said. Larger gun dealers including Nichols Store southeast of Rock Hill and the Sportsman in Newport have been selling the weapons for years, clerks at both stores said.

"We've sold a bunch of them," Dresner said, estimating he sells four or five AK-47s each week. "I've been surprised at how well they've sold."

Dresner said the AK-47 he sells is a semi-automatic rifle just like the ones used by Iraqi police allied with U.S. troops in the Middle East. It looks similar to the famed Russian AK-47, a fully automatic machine gun made popular during the Cold War. Those guns, however, are only sold to individuals specially licensed by the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, he said. And they carry a $25,000 price tag.

Priced from $550 to $800

The assault rifles Dresner and other local dealers offer are priced between $550 and $800. State law also requires a mandatory background check before the gun can be sold -- just like any other gun sale -- that takes between 20 minutes and three days.

From 1994 to 2004, a federal ban on assault weapons, including AK-47s, limited the kinds of guns dealers could sell. Dresner said the AK-47 was still sold, but only with magazines that held three rounds or less. The ban expired in 2004 and the guns can now be purchased with up to 100 round drums, Dresner said.

And they can be fired "as fast as you can pull the trigger," he said.

That's the main reason gun-control advocates are concerned about the sale of assault weapons. They claim the guns were manufactured for killing people, not any other reason.

"AK-47s should not be available for sale. There's really no argument," said Zach Ragbourn, a spokesman for the Brady Campaign, the nation's leading gun-control lobby. "They're designed to attack people, period. They're not for hunting or a fun collector's item."

Ragbourn said the term "assault weapon" was coined by the gun industry years ago as a marketing tool. He said any weapon capable of firing multiple rounds in a split second shouldn't be offered on store shelves.

"A 100-round magazine is not a cosmetic feature," he said. "It's nothing but a bunch of lead in the air in a short amount of time."

Ragbourn said lobbyists are pushing lawmakers to reinstate the assault weapon ban.

Locally, Lt. Les Herring of the Rock Hill Police Department said several shell casings from the high-powered rifles have turned up at crime scenes recently. He said there are two or three unsolved shootings, none fatal, where investigators found the bullet shells.

"We know people are shooting them, but that's about all we know," he said.

Herring said there isn't any data that suggests more assault weapons are used for violent crimes now than before the weapons ban expired. However, any time a weapon capable of firing rounds quickly is in the hands of a criminal, it's a concern, he said.

"People who want one will go wherever they have to in order to get one," Herring said, adding that before the guns were sold locally, people would travel to other places to make purchases. "The threat's always been out there. We've always had that concern."

Dresner doesn't believe the guns he sells are going directly into the hands of criminals. He said the background checks and clientele he sees on a regular basis suggest otherwise.

"It's just a souvenir, to be able to say, 'I've got an AK-47,'" Dresner said. "I bet 90 percent of the people who buy it won't even shoot the first bullet."

When he thinks a gun may end up in the wrong hands, Dresner refuses the sale, he said. Recently, a man passed a background check to purchase a handgun, but Dresner overheard him joking with a friend that he was going to use the gun for violence.

"I said, 'Sorry buddy. You just talked your way out of this gun,'" Dresner said. "It's not worth it to have that on your conscious."

Dresner said most guns used in violent crimes are bought illegally or stolen from a responsible owner.

"Could it get into the wrong hands? I guess," he said about the AK-47s. "But the average person who buys it is legit."

Adam O'Daniel • 329-4069

aodaniel@heraldonline.com


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The same type of gun commonly used by Iraqi security forces is legally being sold to civilians in Rock Hill.

Geez, the author couldn't even get beyond the first paragraph without spouting a bold-faced lie.

For those infamiliar with firearms, the AK-47s used by Iraqi security forces are true "assault rifles", i.e. they are selective-fire (capable of both semi-automatic and fully-automatic fire).

The AK-style rifles sold in the U.S. (e.g. WASR-10) are semi-automatic ONLY.

1 posted on 07/26/2007 8:46:30 AM PDT by holymoly
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The same knives use by the Yakuza are also available at Bed Bath & Beyond.

The first lie really was that he called an AK-47 a powerful rifle. People can buy hunting rifles that are much more powerful.


2 posted on 07/26/2007 8:49:39 AM PDT by Barney Gumble (A liberal is someone too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost)
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To: Barney Gumble

Yep, grab a Weatherby of your choice and it will make that AK look like a popgun...


3 posted on 07/26/2007 8:53:29 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: holymoly

Democrats, raise taxes, fund socialism and gun control. Lie about all, No one seems to know why, it’s just the way Democrats are.


4 posted on 07/26/2007 8:55:17 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: holymoly

Jack the Ripper and Elizabeth Borden never owned a gun between them. For that matter, Genghis Khan never owned a gun...


5 posted on 07/26/2007 8:59:06 AM PDT by jeddavis
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To: holymoly
(Red) Herring sez:

"They're designed to attack people, period. They're not for hunting or a fun collector's item."

Gosh Red, you say that like it's a bad thing ;'}
6 posted on 07/26/2007 8:59:25 AM PDT by rockrr (Global warming is to science what Islam is to religion)
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To: holymoly

bump


7 posted on 07/26/2007 9:00:15 AM PDT by VOA
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To: holymoly
The Romanian WASR is a great value.

And now for this:

Dresner said. "It's not worth it to have that on your conscious."

I'm reasonably certain that Mr. Dresner said "conscience".

Reporters are idiots.

L

8 posted on 07/26/2007 9:04:05 AM PDT by Lurker (Comparing moderate islam to extremist islam is like comparing small pox to ebola.)
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Scholarly: ***That's the main reason gun-control advocates are concerned about the sale of assault weapons. They claim the guns were manufactured for killing people, not any other reason.*** Guns are manufactured for the sole reason of killing things.
9 posted on 07/26/2007 9:07:24 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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To: Lurker
Reporters are idiots.

Please don't be so insulting toward idiots. :=)

10 posted on 07/26/2007 9:07:35 AM PDT by Bob
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To: holymoly
Rock Hill Police Department said several shell casings from the high-powered rifles have turned up at crime scenes recently. He said there are two or three unsolved shootings, none fatal, where investigators found the bullet shells.

Holy cow, I didn't know that the AK uses its own special ammo. The cops must have read the AK-47 stamp on the side of the casings......

11 posted on 07/26/2007 9:09:04 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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“Critics fear powerful rifles might land in wrong hands”

They will - regardless of any gun laws.

Allowing ordinary citizens to purchase them just levels the playing field. I prefer an M-1 or M-14 myself.


12 posted on 07/26/2007 9:09:12 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Lurker

That bastard reporter is about an hour or so drive away from me. I should call him & tell him what a dumbass he is.


13 posted on 07/26/2007 9:11:34 AM PDT by DirtyPigpen
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To: holymoly

“AK-47s should not be available for sale. There’s really no argument,” said Zach Ragbourn, a spokesman for the Brady Campaign, the nation’s leading gun-control lobby. “They’re designed to attack people, period. They’re not for hunting or a fun collector’s item.”

I’m always amused by anti gun nuts who don’t know what they are talking about, telling us gun owners what is a ‘collectible’ and what constitutes a ‘assault weapon’.


14 posted on 07/26/2007 9:13:26 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: holymoly

I love my WASR. Folding stock. Cheap to buy (you can see tool-marks) but cheap ammo, too, very little recoil, fairly accurate, has never mis-fired, you can field strip it in seconds.
Toss it in the bed of your truck, occasional touch-up with a can of barbque grill paint.
Great value, good gun-—and a wonderful fringe benefit:
it really pisses off any libagoo-goos who see it.


15 posted on 07/26/2007 9:13:55 AM PDT by tumblindice (there are many like it, but this one is mine)
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To: DirtyPigpen
So $199.95 at the gun show in 1993 was a great deal then..... and they shoot extremely straight, but what a kick....... gotta have a doz. or so mags with it though.
16 posted on 07/26/2007 9:15:36 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (Everything works out for the best..........Ft. Lauderdale, Florida)
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To: holymoly
Rock Hill Police Department said several shell casings from the high-powered rifles have turned up at crime scenes recently.

They've also found sneaker tracks and tire tracks and police are calling for a ban on Nikes and SUVs.

17 posted on 07/26/2007 9:20:20 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: Hot Tabasco
The mini-30 is can be called an assault rifle if they want it to be I suppose.
18 posted on 07/26/2007 9:24:21 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: holymoly

“They’re not for hunting or a fun collector’s item.”

In spite of the fact that people hunt with them and collect them for fun.


19 posted on 07/26/2007 9:25:49 AM PDT by Ender Wiggin
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To: holymoly

You have a good response to the article. The explanation you gave has been offered by so many already but the MSM just don’t get it. But it is more likely that they don’t want to get it in order to promote their leftist agenda.

This weekend I am going to get my “assault rifle” (AR-15 by Colt) at the gun show. After that I plan to assault that hill on the firing range.


20 posted on 07/26/2007 9:27:16 AM PDT by 353FMG (America, first, last and always.)
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