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Why I'm Backing Rudy Guiliani (Burt Prelutsky's Conservative Case For Mr. Mayor Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 07/25/2007 | Burt Prelutsky

Posted on 07/24/2007 11:52:02 PM PDT by goldstategop

Because I'm convinced that, come November of 2008, Hillary Clinton will be the presidential candidate of the Socialist Party, so I think it's particularly important that the Republicans nominate Rudy Giuliani. I will admit that I have been waiting to see if Fred Thompson was going to toss his hat in the ring, but I finally got sick and tired of waiting. The guy's about 6-foot-5 and probably weighs 280; which doesn't hurt when he's portraying a New York City D.A., but he's simply not cut out to play a coquette.

There are other attractive candidates in the GOP, but I happen to believe Rudy has the best chance of defeating Clinton in a general election. I realize for some conservatives, he might be a bit hard to swallow. I realize he was in favor of abortions before he was against them and that he was anti-guns before he was for them, and that while he was mayor, New York was a so-called sanctuary city. But it bears keeping in mind that if you plan to win an election in New York City, it behooves you to be liberal when it comes to social issues. At least, unlike Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who gives opportunism a bad name, Rudy didn't switch from Democrat to Republican to Independent. I woke up rather late this morning, so I'm not certain what Bloomberg is today. Perhaps a Whig.

There are many things I like about Giuliani. For one thing, I like the way he sounds. After all these years of listening to Bush, I find myself longing for a president who doesn't sound like he has a mouth filled with mush, a president who doesn't require a translator to explain an hour after a press conference what he really meant to say.

After 9/11, I liked it when Giuliani told Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal where to stick his $10 million check. And when my wife and I visited New York City some years ago, I appreciated the fact that Giuliani had managed to transform what had been a pigsty into a crown jewel, a major city that was as clean and safe and friendly as any in the world.

What I like best about Giuliani is that I believe he agrees with me that Islamic terrorism is the single greatest threat not only to America, but to Western Civilization, in the world today. I think he's the kind of guy who doesn't back down and who can rally Americans to do whatever it takes to stay the course and defeat an enemy that should have been exterminated during the Dark Ages, along with the plague-bearing rats.

I know many of my fellow conservatives will have a hard time giving their hearts and their votes to a man who isn't far enough to the right to suit them, even though he said that, if elected, he would appoint strict constructionists to the Supreme Court. When I first heard that, I sent an e-mail to a person with a prominent role in his campaign hierarchy, suggesting that American voters are accustomed to candidates forgetting their promises once they're in the White House.

My suggestion was that, in order to prove his sincerity, Giuliani should put it in writing. I never heard back, but a while later, that's exactly what he did. Inasmuch as the greatest legacy Bush will leave us is the Roberts Court, it seems to me if Rudy keeps this one promise, it's reason enough for conservatives to troop out and vote for the man. What right-wingers should keep uppermost in mind is that whether the issue is abortions or guns, eminent domain or racial quotas, it's not the president who makes the call, it's five people in black robes.

As for those who are overly concerned that Rudy hasn't always been on the right side, the far right side, all I can say, as someone who voted for Democrats for far too many years, is that it's a lot more important where a person ends up than where he started out.

Finally, I like Rudy Giuliani because in a city that takes its baseball seriously, and in which even Mets fans get to vote, he never made a secret of the fact that his heart belonged to the Yankees.

I realize that when Hillary, the carpetbagger from Arkansas, decided to run for the Senate, she also claimed to be a Yankees fan. The difference is Rudy actually attends games, whereas Mrs. Clinton thought that Lou Gehrig and Babe Ruth were still wearing pinstripes.


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OK, I'm wearing a flame suit on this one. A conservative has come out in favor of Rudy Guiliani. Give Burt Prelutsky a listen and decide if he's right.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 07/24/2007 11:52:05 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Up his. And yours too if you push this b/s. Abortion, gay rights, gun control, illegal aliens. No thanks.

Run, FRed, Run!!


2 posted on 07/25/2007 12:01:20 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: goldstategop

The author’s description of Giuliani’s policies are dead wrong. The article describes Giuliani as a flip-flopper when he’s really nothing of the kind. He’s STILL pro-abortion, anti-gun, sanctuary city Rudy.

The electability argument is out the moment Fred announces since he’s been running even in head to head matchups.


3 posted on 07/25/2007 12:02:23 AM PDT by Nova442 ("Cry Havoc and let slip the Dogs of War.")
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To: goldstategop

Unfortunately, I see most on this forum backing Rudy after he wins the nomination in March 2008 in a race against Hillary.


4 posted on 07/25/2007 12:03:23 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: goldstategop
"A conservative has come out in favor of Rudy Guiliani."

LOL! Yeah, right.

"...someone who voted for Democrats for far too many years"

He's off the wagon again.

5 posted on 07/25/2007 12:03:24 AM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: goldstategop
What I like best about Giuliani is that I believe he agrees with me that Islamic terrorism is the single greatest threat not only to America, but to Western Civilization, in the world today. I think he's the kind of guy who doesn't back down and who can rally Americans to do whatever it takes to stay the course and defeat an enemy that should have been exterminated during the Dark Ages, along with the plague-bearing rats.

Plus, he's a Hildebeast-Slayer in the general.

6 posted on 07/25/2007 12:07:34 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: goldstategop

He’s not.


7 posted on 07/25/2007 12:08:46 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~~~Jihad Fever -- Catch It !~~~ (Backup tag: "Live Fred or Die"))
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To: goldstategop
Giuliani has done nothing to convince me he won’t sign AWB2 or any other Rat gun control legislation into law. The way I see it, my guns are as good as gone regardless if Rudy or Hitlery wins. That’s why I’m holding out for Fred.
8 posted on 07/25/2007 12:08:49 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (Run, Fred run! I will send my donation as soon as you announce.)
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To: Thunder90
Unfortunately, I see most on this forum backing Rudy after he wins the nomination in March 2008 in a race against Hillary.

I'll consider it...if there's ice skating in Hell by then.

9 posted on 07/25/2007 12:10:24 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (Run, Fred run! I will send my donation as soon as you announce.)
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To: Rudder
I don't agree with his social philosophy, which is too liberal for me. But when I heard him at the GOP Convention three years ago, I didn't need a translator to understand his points on national security and the War In Iraq. I liked the way he booted Arafat out of his city in the 90s when the State Department pressed for him to be given honors and he told the Saudi prince after 9/11 to go pound sand. Whatever I don't like about him, I admire his actions and the way he stood up to the clueless and morally dense Foggy Bottom types in the State Department. That's the kind of man I want to see running our foreign policy, not Hugo Chavez In A Pantsuit Hillary Clinton.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

10 posted on 07/25/2007 12:13:32 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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>> What right-wingers should keep uppermost in mind is that whether the issue is abortions or guns, eminent domain or racial quotas, it’s not the president who makes the call, it’s five people in black robes.

So said the ankle grabbing moron.

>> Finally, I like Rudy Giuliani because ... he never made a secret of the fact that his heart belonged to the Yankees

Is this guy for real?


11 posted on 07/25/2007 12:15:14 AM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Gene Eric
The issue IS judges. If you like Hillary Clinton's judicial appointees, they will be to the left of Karl Marx guaranteed. I think its sensible for Guliani and for every other GOP presidential aspirants to promise to appoint strict constructionist judges. Whatever else they say, that's the litmus test for me. Five people on our Supreme Court will shape our future far more than any President in office will. So people can disagree whether Guiliani is the right candidacy for our party but I do agree with Burt judges are critical.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 07/25/2007 12:19:44 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
I realize he was is in favor of abortions before he was against them and that he was is anti-guns before he was for them...

There it's fixed and no reason to continue reading the article.

13 posted on 07/25/2007 12:19:56 AM PDT by Doofer (Fred Dalton Thompson For President)
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To: goldstategop

Burt’s words are fine, but WND isn’t exactly unindictable.

We Giuliani supporters still have time to make an even more cogent case. One that reaches from middle-America through a plurality of FR.

It’s not a matter of hood-winking - it’s a card game with hearts, souls, and minds, and with, um, our troops overseas and Stalinists on the other side. Get Involved With Who You Support. Words are just words. I just sent Tancredo a hundred bucks. The message needs to get out.


14 posted on 07/25/2007 12:21:28 AM PDT by IslandJeff (Daniel 2: 20-23)
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To: Doofer
On the other hand, his being flip-flopper just makes people look in askance. But he isn't as slick as Mitt Romney. Its slim pickings from a field few of us conservatives are enthusiastic about.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

15 posted on 07/25/2007 12:22:36 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

There are many strong points going for Rudy, but his appeal to conservatives is so low that he likely won’t get beyond the primary. I think the line-up just before the primary will be: Thompson, Rudy and Romney, in that order.


16 posted on 07/25/2007 12:23:40 AM PDT by Rudder
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To: AlaskaErik
IF. Right now, I'm not endorsing ANY candidate. I report, you decide. Fred Thompson still has to be an active candidate and state where he stands on the issues. The waiting is getting old.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

17 posted on 07/25/2007 12:24:51 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Rudder
He could be a formidable candidate if he didn't have those social issue weaknesses. NONE of the GOP candidates are perfect. In the end, its going to come down to a candidate with character, the right qualities to be President and who will keep us safe over the next decade.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

18 posted on 07/25/2007 12:27:24 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

The SCOTUS argument IS retrograde and the guy comes across like a wet noodle. This is the wrong attitude when it concerns electing a person to the Presidency of the most powerful and free Country on the face of the planet!


19 posted on 07/25/2007 12:31:22 AM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Thunder90
Yup, I’ll support anal leakage before any of the commie rats. I don’t really back Giulliani on much of anything, but if something weird happens and he does win in the primaries.... I guess I could possibly... Hell, I don’t know. I hope Duncan or Fred wins.
20 posted on 07/25/2007 12:38:12 AM PDT by thewitz
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