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Why Vegetarians are Eating Meat
Food and Wine ^ | Aug 2007 | Christine Lennon

Posted on 07/24/2007 4:53:13 PM PDT by kalee

A growing number of vegetarians are starting to eat humanely raised meat. Christine Lennon talks to a few converts— including her husband and famed author Mollie Katzen.

To a die-hard meat eater, there's nothing more irritating than a smug vegetarian. I feel at liberty to say this because I am one (a steak lover) and I married the other (a vegetarian with a pulpit). For me, "Do you now, or would you ever, eat meat?" has always been a question on par with "Do you ever want to get married?" and "Do you want children?" The answer to one reveals as much about a person's interior life, and our compatibility, as the response to the others. My husband Andrew's reply to all of those questions when I asked him three years ago was, "No."

Obviously, we're now married. We had twins earlier this year. And somewhere in between those two events, the answer to the third question was also re-evaluated, and the vegetarian soapbox was put to rest, too.

Yes, my husband has started eating meat again after a seven-year hiatus as an ethically motivated and health-conscious vegetarian.

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To: kalee
Christine Lennon talks to a few converts— including her husband and famed author Mollie Katzen.

She's married to a man named Mollie?
121 posted on 07/25/2007 8:18:23 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: tx_eggman

Good Lord above, where did you get those steaks?


122 posted on 07/25/2007 8:20:31 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: #1CTYankee

I think that there’s a Big Kahuna burger . . . the breakfast of champions and guys who are about to get shot in the face.


123 posted on 07/25/2007 8:22:35 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: ari-freedom
Most Orthodox Jews agree-it is really hard to go 9 days without meat even if it means you can have fish.

I've never understood that distinction . . . fish IS meat.
124 posted on 07/25/2007 8:25:22 AM PDT by Xenalyte (Lord, I apologize . . . and be with the starving pygmies in New Guinea amen.)
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To: tx_eggman

Now that is what I call a proper steak. You’re making me want to run out to the butcher shop and purchase a couple of those, score them, marinate them for 2 days, and then grill them.


125 posted on 07/25/2007 8:30:21 AM PDT by Maigrey (The wand chooses the wizard, as much as the wizard chooses the wand... Mr. Ollivander)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Tell them to eat lots of oatmeal (cleans the fats out of the blood) and add some apple cider vinegar to salads etc. I eat two pork sausage patties with two tortillas every day for break fast and if not, then it’s a sausage patty and two fried eggs. We eat a poop load of meat. My cholestral is excellent (according to tests done two months ago) I read something somewhere that said that sugars and white flours are the culprit for high cholestral.


126 posted on 07/25/2007 8:34:33 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: OCCASparky
Been there, but never was hungry enough for the Big Texan meal. IIRC, I had the 16oz sirloin with the trimmins.

Now, it would be the 16oz rib-eye and a baked tater and nothing else.

Kinda like how I grill out now, without the rush!

I do have a family member who had one in 1 hour. He's been stranded for 2 days in the snow one winter, drove up, and had the whole thing in 1 hour - and so he says, was slightly hungry for dessert. (He's 6'6" also.....)

127 posted on 07/25/2007 8:35:24 AM PDT by Maigrey (The wand chooses the wizard, as much as the wizard chooses the wand... Mr. Ollivander)
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To: kalee
As a thirty-four year lacto vegetarian (and PETA hater), I'm not a fan of all the fake soy stuff. I read somewhere that those products and much of the research supporting them were created to find a profitable use for the remnants of soy oil production. There are dozens of delicious high protein nuts, legumes, and grains to choose from, why go for fake processed food?

For all those berating the ethical aspect of vegetarianism, I'd point out that we all make ethical choices about what we'll eat. Humans are made by God out of meat, too, but few would eat one. Few would eat a chimp. Why? Because they are too highly evolved, and we don't want to kill them. Indians put cows in that category, as Americans do dogs and cats. Vegetarians draw the line at animals. What's so weird about that?

128 posted on 07/25/2007 8:38:06 AM PDT by SupplySider
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt

Fish oil, and working out in the yard. Did wonders for my husband. The longer the work, the better the cholesterol levels became. The fish oil raises the HDL levels to assist the overall count. (I get the Omega Complex capsules from Sam’s. It’s got fish oil and 2 others, to help with cholesterol levels. It’s been great for bringing down the DH’s levels ~20% on total count.


129 posted on 07/25/2007 8:46:44 AM PDT by Maigrey (The wand chooses the wizard, as much as the wizard chooses the wand... Mr. Ollivander)
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To: Xenalyte

no, fish is not the same as meat. It just doesn’t taste as good. Therefore allowing only fish is a suitable restriction for mourning.


130 posted on 07/25/2007 8:55:47 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: SupplySider

crows are smarter than chimps.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2178920.stm

Gives new meaning to the expression “eating crow”


131 posted on 07/25/2007 8:59:53 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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To: Xenalyte
"I think that there’s a Big Kahuna burger . . . the breakfast of champions and guys who are about to get shot in the face."

Yeah, I was just remembering what John Travolta was saying about the burgers in France. ;-D

132 posted on 07/25/2007 9:36:50 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: AFreeBird

LOLL So that’s why he likes it so much. LOLL


133 posted on 07/25/2007 11:57:47 AM PDT by gopheraj
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To: gopheraj
Sounds good to me. Even with my mostly meat diet, my cholesterol was 148 (total) when I had it checked last November.
134 posted on 07/25/2007 3:43:42 PM PDT by irishtenor (There is no "I" in team, but there are two in IDIOT.)
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To: Xenalyte
Good Lord above, where did you get those steaks?

We had the butcher pick out the best looking whole ribeye ... close to 17lbs ... and then we cut it into 7 steaks.

The real question that needs answering isn't so much where? but why? My four brothers and I have a long standing "weekend" gathering every year ... expanded over time to include my son and son-in-law.

The Weekend Explained

This years was our 22nd trip to the well ...

Number 22

Life is real, real good ... no doubt about it.

135 posted on 07/25/2007 4:52:18 PM PDT by tx_eggman (Democrat Campaign Slogan - 2006: "Bring Out The Gimp!")
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Being ethically challenged, I’ll never have that skinny, malnourished dude’s problems. 8-)


136 posted on 07/25/2007 4:56:03 PM PDT by Armedanddangerous (Master of Sinanju (emeritus))
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To: Dinsdale
Why would you ruin that beautifully meat by cooking in on a GAS GRILL?

Don’t they have charcoal where you’re from?

Because, when we arrived at our destination that year (see post 135 on this thread) all they had to cook with was a gas grill ... and, my normal apparatus:

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isn't exactally a portable.

Since the year of the gas grill fiasco we have always packed a grill.

137 posted on 07/25/2007 5:00:02 PM PDT by tx_eggman (ManBearPig '08)
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To: aruanan
Thanks much for that explanation about cholesterol. Will get all of your post to my friend.

I know she has been on medication but not sure which one. Her family has a history of heart disease - AND she is a heavy smoker. I know, heading for a heart attack. That's the deal. Maybe there is a graphical presentation of some of the facts you just described - I search for that. Maybe if she posts that at her house and at work, and sees it, she will get the message so nauseatingly she will run to reduce her cholesterol intake and her resistent hubby will ASSIST however he can...including eating the detested (by him) chicken and turkey some of the time.

Do you have a similar review of the danger of triglycerides? These zoomed up! Thanks again.

138 posted on 07/25/2007 5:24:27 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: gopheraj

Yes, she actually started eating oatmeal when she was first put on anti-cholesterol medication. But her levels zoomed up. I wonder if stress can accelerate these levels also?


139 posted on 07/25/2007 5:25:59 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Maigrey

Yes, have talked to my friend about taking the fish oil supplements (because she will NOT eat any fish). The info you provided re: what to get at Sam’s is very much appreciated! Will give her that info and tell her about how it has helped your husband. She does do weekly work at her house and in the yard. She is very tiny.


140 posted on 07/25/2007 5:28:34 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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