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Cruelty To Animals Leads To Cruelty; Kindness To Animals Doesn't Lead To Kindness
Townhall.com ^ | 07/24/2007 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 07/23/2007 11:10:30 PM PDT by goldstategop

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Cruelty to animals is a sign of dispositive psychopathy and a predictor of criminal behavior. The converse however, doesn't necessarily lead from kindness to animals to kindness to human beings. Many leading Nazis showed especial consideration for the welfare of animals nevertheless were quite capable of being absolutely ruthless in their cruelty to human beings. Kindness towards the beasts doesn't have any relationship towards being kind towards one's fellow man. People who are kind to people may be kind to animals but one has no way of knowing how someone who loves animals views the worth of other people. Quite simply put, human nature lends itself to extreme attitudes. And those who are extreme in their affectations are not usually consistent in their ethics. Its something to consider in looking at the contempt with which animal rights advocates have for their welfare of humanity.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 07/23/2007 11:10:35 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
And on the other hand are those, especially today, who equate animal worth with human worth -- such as People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA)

Didn't PETA get caught killing animals?

2 posted on 07/24/2007 12:20:22 AM PDT by SIDENET ("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
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We are not supposed to enjoy dog fights or cock fights but many will pay to see human beings beat each other to a pulp. Something wrong with this picture.


3 posted on 07/24/2007 12:45:54 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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Those who offer human sacrifice kiss calves" (Hosea 13.2).

The 'calves' were idols!

LOL!

4 posted on 07/24/2007 1:50:00 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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We are not supposed to enjoy dog fights or cock fights but many will pay to see human beings beat each other to a pulp. Something wrong with this picture.

What wrong with the picture is that the animals don't have a choice, people do.

5 posted on 07/24/2007 1:51:07 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: goldstategop

Interesting. I had no idea that the Nazis were also the animal rights activists of their time.


6 posted on 07/24/2007 2:58:18 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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Bans on vivisection were issued...

How barbaric! Everyone knows God entrusted the care of His creations to us...so we could torture them to death to test strawberry-scented hemorrhoid cream.

"I asked the earth, and it answered me, 'I am not He;' and whatsoever are in it confessed the same. I asked the sea and the deeps, and the living creeping things, and they answered, 'We are not Thy God, seek above us.'... And I replied unto all the things which encompass the door of my flesh: 'Ye have told me of my God, that ye are not He; tell me something of Him.' And they cried out with a loud voice, 'He made us.' St. Augustine

They must be treayed with mercy for that reason.

7 posted on 07/24/2007 3:43:53 AM PDT by Petronius ("He never sleeps, the judge. He is dancing, dancing. He says that he will never die.")
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Didn't PETA get caught killing animals?

Yes -- but that's not inconsistent with their position. i talked to a PETA member, and there's sense to it. I don't agree with it, but it's logically and morally consistent.

PETA wants to end the notion of human ownership of animals altogether. No lab animals, no pets, no livestock. Mu counter was, what about cows? If cattle ranching ended overnight, the cows could not be released into the wild, because they cannot fend for themselves. Few farmers are going to continue to feed and care for cattle with no economic upside. The vast majority of cattle would simply have to be destroyed.

The PETA member I spoke to accepted that -- and that most dogs and cats would also have to be destroyed if pet ownership were to end. They are willing to accept the one-time mass killng of millions of animals -- even the extinction of species that were bred for dependence on humans -- if it means a permanent end to the breeding of animals to meet human needs, which they see as perpetuating cruelty.

As I said, I don't agree, but it's logically consistent.

8 posted on 07/24/2007 4:41:04 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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We are not supposed to enjoy dog fights or cock fights but many will pay to see human beings beat each other to a pulp.

The humans don't fight to the death, and the humans have a choice. I don't care for boxing, but it's not the moral equivalent of dogfighting.

9 posted on 07/24/2007 4:44:02 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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“We are not supposed to enjoy dog fights or cock fights but many will pay to see human beings beat each other to a pulp. Something wrong with this picture.”

Is this a trick question or something?


10 posted on 07/24/2007 4:45:49 AM PDT by Dave Elias
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To: taxesareforever

“We are not supposed to enjoy dog fights or cock fights but many will pay to see human beings beat each other to a pulp. Something wrong with this picture.”

Presumably humans can decide for themselves whether or not to participate. They are not slaves or gladiators. Animals have no such choice.


11 posted on 07/24/2007 7:39:39 AM PDT by monday
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What wrong with the picture is that the animals don't have a choice, people do.

What a lousy excuse. Deer don't have a choice either but we have an open season on them.

12 posted on 07/24/2007 10:53:33 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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I don't care for boxing, but it's not the moral equivalent of dogfighting.

And what are the morals of the dogs?

13 posted on 07/24/2007 10:54:29 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Dave Elias
Is this a trick question or something?

Think, just think.

14 posted on 07/24/2007 10:55:20 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: monday
Animals have no such choice.

Animals have no morals. Besides animals don't have a choice because they can't think.

15 posted on 07/24/2007 10:56:28 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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"Those who offer human sacrifice kiss calves" (Hosea 13.2)

Better calves than donkeys.

16 posted on 07/24/2007 10:56:58 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: ReignOfError

That individual is sick. And he’s sick in a very scary way.


17 posted on 07/24/2007 10:59:07 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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Sorry, you can tell alot about a man or woman by how they treat their dog in my experience. PETA is a lunatic organization, no doubt about it, but the author is letting that wacked out small minority override his own common sense in my opinion.

And its hard to take anyone seriously these days that dredge up the Nazi’s outside of any conversation about the Nazi’s.


18 posted on 07/24/2007 10:59:57 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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many will pay to see human beings beat each other to a pulp. Something wrong with this picture.

People have a choice. I can't imagine paying to watch boxing or wrestling--but at least the fighters are there by choice, as are the idiots who pay to watch.

Some fighters beat up on their wives and bite ears off; maybe to call them "animals" is a slam to animals.

19 posted on 07/24/2007 11:03:36 AM PDT by lonestar
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To: goldstategop; sinkspur; 88keys; DugwayDuke; Severa; the OlLine Rebel; naturalman1975; Abathar; ...
Well, I think this is the most muddled word salad I've read in a long time. This guy should stop staring at his navel. I think he's already mined anything of value that was once in there.

Why should prosecution of Vick for treating his dogs horribly lead us to ponder whether animal lovers are mean to people? I'm sure some are.

Ping!


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20 posted on 07/24/2007 11:11:12 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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