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To: SIDENET
Didn't PETA get caught killing animals?

Yes -- but that's not inconsistent with their position. i talked to a PETA member, and there's sense to it. I don't agree with it, but it's logically and morally consistent.

PETA wants to end the notion of human ownership of animals altogether. No lab animals, no pets, no livestock. Mu counter was, what about cows? If cattle ranching ended overnight, the cows could not be released into the wild, because they cannot fend for themselves. Few farmers are going to continue to feed and care for cattle with no economic upside. The vast majority of cattle would simply have to be destroyed.

The PETA member I spoke to accepted that -- and that most dogs and cats would also have to be destroyed if pet ownership were to end. They are willing to accept the one-time mass killng of millions of animals -- even the extinction of species that were bred for dependence on humans -- if it means a permanent end to the breeding of animals to meet human needs, which they see as perpetuating cruelty.

As I said, I don't agree, but it's logically consistent.

8 posted on 07/24/2007 4:41:04 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: ReignOfError

That individual is sick. And he’s sick in a very scary way.


17 posted on 07/24/2007 10:59:07 AM PDT by Little Ray (Rudy Guiliani: If his wives can't trust him, why should we?)
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To: ReignOfError

>As I said, I don’t agree, but it’s logically consistent.<

I disagree that your aquaintance is in anyway logically consistent. Pet ownership in and of itself, is in no way cruel. People treat their pets as famiy members. Dogs, and cats, for that matter, display obvious signs of contentment, and happiness, within human families.

There is no way to come to the conclusion, that because some animals are cruelly treated, that all animal ownership needs to be ended. That is as absurd as saying that because child abuse occurs, then no children should be born.


21 posted on 07/24/2007 11:47:51 AM PDT by Darnright
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To: ReignOfError
“As I said, I don’t agree, but it’s logically consistent.”

It’s logically consistent to insane people. What about all the happy pets who live happy lives with their owners? Put it this way. Would you rather live a life being pampered by a constant companion that loves you and that you love in return, or die?

I admit it’s hard for a human who is used to thinking of themselves as free to put oneself in the position of a dog or cat, but they also have the illusion of freedom.

After all, do you think for one moment that cats think they are owned? Do you think dogs would prefer to be in charge rather than happily subservient? Crazy PETA people do but I am not crazy. If I were a pet, I would rather live.

In the case of chickens and cows, well, the choice is not so clear, yet even a short life might be better than none at all. Especially if it’s spent running around in a pasture rather than a feed lot. Domestic cattle don’t have a bad life. They have no predators thanks to their human protectors so life is less stressful for them than a deer or elk in the wild. They die prematurely of course, but everything alive dies eventually.

I agree with PETA when it comes to inhumane living conditions for animals, but not with their idea that animals are the equivalent of humans. After all, they don’t treat each other with nearly the same degree of compassion we treat them with.

23 posted on 07/24/2007 12:33:22 PM PDT by monday
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To: ReignOfError

PETA has evolved into a full-blown cult. They are brainwashing their members into bizarre dogmatic beliefs, such as the belief that a “one-time mass killng of millions of animals” will lead to some sort of permanently beautiful and peaceful state of affairs for all life on earth.


26 posted on 07/24/2007 1:54:31 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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