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Cruelty to animals is a sign of dispositive psychopathy and a predictor of criminal behavior. The converse however, doesn't necessarily lead from kindness to animals to kindness to human beings. Many leading Nazis showed especial consideration for the welfare of animals nevertheless were quite capable of being absolutely ruthless in their cruelty to human beings. Kindness towards the beasts doesn't have any relationship towards being kind towards one's fellow man. People who are kind to people may be kind to animals but one has no way of knowing how someone who loves animals views the worth of other people. Quite simply put, human nature lends itself to extreme attitudes. And those who are extreme in their affectations are not usually consistent in their ethics. Its something to consider in looking at the contempt with which animal rights advocates have for their welfare of humanity.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

1 posted on 07/23/2007 11:10:35 PM PDT by goldstategop
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And on the other hand are those, especially today, who equate animal worth with human worth -- such as People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA)

Didn't PETA get caught killing animals?

2 posted on 07/24/2007 12:20:22 AM PDT by SIDENET ("IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!")
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We are not supposed to enjoy dog fights or cock fights but many will pay to see human beings beat each other to a pulp. Something wrong with this picture.


3 posted on 07/24/2007 12:45:54 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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Those who offer human sacrifice kiss calves" (Hosea 13.2).

The 'calves' were idols!

LOL!

4 posted on 07/24/2007 1:50:00 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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Interesting. I had no idea that the Nazis were also the animal rights activists of their time.


6 posted on 07/24/2007 2:58:18 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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Bans on vivisection were issued...

How barbaric! Everyone knows God entrusted the care of His creations to us...so we could torture them to death to test strawberry-scented hemorrhoid cream.

"I asked the earth, and it answered me, 'I am not He;' and whatsoever are in it confessed the same. I asked the sea and the deeps, and the living creeping things, and they answered, 'We are not Thy God, seek above us.'... And I replied unto all the things which encompass the door of my flesh: 'Ye have told me of my God, that ye are not He; tell me something of Him.' And they cried out with a loud voice, 'He made us.' St. Augustine

They must be treayed with mercy for that reason.

7 posted on 07/24/2007 3:43:53 AM PDT by Petronius ("He never sleeps, the judge. He is dancing, dancing. He says that he will never die.")
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"Those who offer human sacrifice kiss calves" (Hosea 13.2)

Better calves than donkeys.

16 posted on 07/24/2007 10:56:58 AM PDT by Dr.Deth
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Sorry, you can tell alot about a man or woman by how they treat their dog in my experience. PETA is a lunatic organization, no doubt about it, but the author is letting that wacked out small minority override his own common sense in my opinion.

And its hard to take anyone seriously these days that dredge up the Nazi’s outside of any conversation about the Nazi’s.


18 posted on 07/24/2007 10:59:57 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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To: goldstategop; sinkspur; 88keys; DugwayDuke; Severa; the OlLine Rebel; naturalman1975; Abathar; ...
Well, I think this is the most muddled word salad I've read in a long time. This guy should stop staring at his navel. I think he's already mined anything of value that was once in there.

Why should prosecution of Vick for treating his dogs horribly lead us to ponder whether animal lovers are mean to people? I'm sure some are.

Ping!


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20 posted on 07/24/2007 11:11:12 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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I do not totally believe the mantra of “cruel to ‘animals’ = cruel to humans”.

I’ve seen write-ups that there is no correlation between treating animals cruelly and then humans.

So it’s a toss-up, I think, on evidence. There’s lots of talk that this premise is true, but I’ve never seen data on it, not even in a simple write-up format (”68% of criminals had animal-cruelty background”, e.g.).

1 of my big questions with this premise is, even if they show data, what is the baseline?

To be truly effective, we should gather up all the people who we know were (truly) cruel to animals, and see how they turn out - if they end up being abusive to humans.

It should not simply be from the standpoint of who is locked up for abuse. That is a different stat. Saying 68% of abuse inmates were cruel to animals is not the same as saying 68% of people noted as cruel to animals ended up cruel to humans.


38 posted on 07/25/2007 5:45:33 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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“no one is making the absurd argument that animal rights activists are likely to be Nazis.”

Wanna bet? I am!


41 posted on 07/25/2007 6:01:31 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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“We Germans, who are the only people in the world to assume a decent attitude toward animals, shall also assume a decent attitude toward these human animals.” — Heinrich Himmler


42 posted on 07/25/2007 6:07:59 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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