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Before you enlist (nuclear barf alert - this is pure leftist evil)
Objector Org ^ | 7/22/07

Posted on 07/22/2007 6:23:03 AM PDT by pabianice

My name is Suj. Unfortunately, I was not one of the lucky ones who got out. From the time I inquired about the Army, I had a recruiter hounding me day and night. I finally decided to take the ASVAB and physical, just to see how I'd qualify. Next thing I knew it, I was raising my right hand and swearing to something I had no idea about. Give my LIFE!, I was only 17. I was never told that I could go reserve and if I liked the Army, I could go active, nor was I told that once I go active I couldn't go reserve. I didn't even know that I was signing up for active duty until after I signed the papers.

When I started having doubts, my recruiter told me that it was too late for me to change my mind and I had to go. My recruiter lied and said I would have a traveling job.I've been at Fort Hood for 2 years. I want to get out but the only options I have of getting out could ruin my career, so I am forced to wait my time out like many others in my same position. I recommend that anyone who is even thinking about joining the Armed Forces look up all options before contacting a recruiter. "How do you know when a recruiter is lying?....His lips are moving."

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This is what the Left believes. It makes the current New Republic scandal look tame.
1 posted on 07/22/2007 6:23:05 AM PDT by pabianice
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I swear they set these misanthropes up to write these diatribes as “truth” - or they’re just wet dreams of the anti-war leftists.
2 posted on 07/22/2007 6:25:43 AM PDT by xcamel ("It's Talk Thompson Time!" >> irc://irc.freenode.net/fredthompson)
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Not a problem, Suj, Iraq and Afghanistan beckon.

BTW, most people read the contract before they sign in triplicate. Not to mention the verbal, written, and tesing procedures prior to commitment.

Of course, if one cannot keep their word by verbal, written, and procedural foreknowledge, why would anybody place credibility in what he has to say today?


3 posted on 07/22/2007 6:27:10 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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testing not teasing...


4 posted on 07/22/2007 6:27:55 AM PDT by Cvengr (The violence of evil is met with the violence of righteousness, justice, love and grace.)
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Not to mention that failing Basic is easier than falling off a log in a hurricane.
5 posted on 07/22/2007 6:29:30 AM PDT by Lost Dutchman ("Weep for the future Na'Toth, Weep for us all." (G'Kar-Babylon 5))
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“My recruiter lied and said I would have a traveling job.I’ve been at Fort Hood for 2 years.”

Hahahaha..reminds me of two things: the old SNL ‘fake’ Navy commercial “Join the Navy and visit exotic ports” “Port of call, Bayonne” and Private Benjamin, when Goldie Hawn says “I think I joined the other Army. The one with the yachts.”


6 posted on 07/22/2007 6:31:19 AM PDT by gate2wire (Three days until Saratoga)
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I want to get out but the only options I have of getting out could ruin my career....

What career? The writer only wants to get out of the Army after two years, so why would he be worried about his career?

I would venture that whoever wrote this nonsense has never been closer to the Army than vandalising the local recruiters office.

8 posted on 07/22/2007 6:34:24 AM PDT by jimtorr
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"My name is Su"

And....

9 posted on 07/22/2007 6:34:50 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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Typical little liberal maggot.

"I thought, you know, like the military, you know, like, would be like, you know, it was under Bill Clinton."

10 posted on 07/22/2007 6:59:52 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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Frankly I don’t believe any of this. The very idea that someone would take the physical “just to see if I would qualify”, is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard of in my life.
11 posted on 07/22/2007 7:09:44 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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Frankly I don’t believe any of this. The very idea that someone would take the physical “just to see if I would qualify”, is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard of in my life.
12 posted on 07/22/2007 7:09:49 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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Ah, yes. Either you are a victim or a predator. No in between when it omes to the military.

Didn’t know that he was joining until he signed the papers? BS.

My son joined DEP. His recruiter isn’t the one who does up the contract in the Navy. Now there are “Classifiers” who handle it. Takes it out of the rcruiter’s hands.


13 posted on 07/22/2007 7:25:51 AM PDT by submarinerswife ("If I win I can't be stopped! If I lose I shall be dead." - George S. Patton)
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Suj, contact John F’n Kerry. You perfectly fit his idea of todays soldier.


14 posted on 07/22/2007 7:45:25 AM PDT by CPOSharky (An organization that kills those who do not believe it's dogma is NOT a religion.)
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We don’t need these people anyway. And this article is pure BS, most likely ghost-written.

In 20 years in the Army I processed ONE “Conscientious Objector” discharge packet. ONE. (Out of a Brigade-full of people, which entails tens of thousands of soldiers.)


15 posted on 07/22/2007 7:51:00 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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And Suj? Ask John Kerry to provide his SF180 while you’re at it, LOL!


16 posted on 07/22/2007 7:52:05 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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Suj, you are a disgusting wimp. My National Guard Iraq combat vet daughter read your sniveling and wants to slap you silent (or maybe straight?)


17 posted on 07/22/2007 8:09:20 AM PDT by flowerplough ("The City is the black man's land." -Black Power activist/originators Grace and James Boggs, 1965)
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This guy is an idiot if he is anything more than a figment of the left’s fevered imaginationings.

#1 He was hounded by recruiters? If you tell a recruiter to quit calling you he will, if you are not willing there are other young men and women who may be.

#2 He enlisted at 17? So he got his parents to agree to sign hum up. Not much doubt there, if it is true.

#3 He was told he would have a traveling job by his recruiter?
There is no way a recruiter is going to know if you have a traveling job or not, much depends on duty assignment. which he likely has no way of knowing.

#4 He wants to get out but the options “could ruin his career”?
I’ll put some thought into this one. (1) There is the queer boy exemption, I’d advise taking a camera and showing the pics to his command, that would get him right out. (2) Repeatedly fail APFTs. Fail two in a row and that is grounds for a medical chapter. (3) Fat Boy program, up your caloric intake to about 4000 calories a day and let nature take it’s course. Again you have to fail twice and you would be well on your way. (4) Come up hot on Operation Golden Flow, you may have to do 45 days extra duty, but the discharge is general.
4 ways out, and I only spent a few minutes thinking about it.

#5 His recruiter lied? Prove it. If he can, that recruiter is in serious trouble. Note lie not stretch the truth a bit, but outright lie. I’ll lay money he can’t

#6 He is waiting out his time? Well, the Army wasn’t my cup of tea either, but I bucked up and lived up to my word.

Fool or Fiction? You decide.

18 posted on 07/22/2007 9:09:36 AM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die than to live as a slave.)
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If he did not know or comprehend all this he is such a blooming idiot we should be discharged for the good of the service!!!! IN 1987 I was 17 and I blasted well knew just what I was signing, agreeing to, and taking an oath to. * years, 6 active, 2 inactive USAR.
19 posted on 07/22/2007 9:14:42 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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"How do you know when a recruiter is lying?....His lips are moving."

A recruiter is basically a sale droid. Mine never lied to me, but they talked it up to sell it to me. It is YOUR responsiblity to get as much info as you can to make an informed decision. This hold true whether you are elisting or buying a car. And for the record I am still on friendly terms with one of my recruiters (I enlisted in 1987) he lives 5 houses down from me.
20 posted on 07/22/2007 9:18:26 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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